I wonder why renders like this are not used in VN?

FoolsBeGone

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I have a question rounding my head for a while.
The thing is, I saw on IG, X and others, female models created with AI that looks great. You can see it's not real at first sight but anyway, they are fantastic. I think you all must saw them cause they a pretty usual.

So my question is why the games and VN never use anything like that.
Creators post new render daily also animations usually around 10 seconds.
They use hundred different s clothes, backgrounds,poses and gestures. There is such a big difference with the usual Renpy game.
I think you all know what I'm talking about but I attached a few just in case.
Those look outstanding....and therein lies the problem. Too many sites would reject the game as having real porn and if the game contained celebrities(even in a non porn role) it would be an instant no go with all the new restrictions being placed on using someones likeness. If there were Loli's ....ooooh boy that would cause Ch..ild Porn accusations almost immediately and even if it had nothing more than straight consensual sex between consenting non related adults ...they would find a reason to reject it because anti porn groups would start threatening the credit card companies until they threatened the website involved....its a mess

by the way that asian chick smoking at the end there......IS smoking HOT
 

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It feels creepy. I don't like real porn stuff either so it's not something I would like regardless.

And as stated, the closer you get to real people the more scrutiny you're going to get from the groups who would post the game up.
 
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Jennifer's Life [v1.0] [AbsentStudio]

Looks like the "old religious canon" isn't really well enforced...


For someone who claim to be a Lawyer, you strangely fail to understand something as basic as the fact that the consent have to happen in the game. Said otherwise, that the two characters pictured have to also be pictured as consenting.
It's obviously not you, the player, nor even them, the platform, who've to get that consent... It just need to be explicit enough in the story.
You are not the first one trying to teach me my work for 20 years and been studing12 years.
But please ar least goggle before.
So, can you you me where is that ruled?
Who told you that bullshit about consent?
First thing, in fact, the consent is not even a legal requirements. It's hard to explain from 0 but sites jeed the consent because they become jointly responsable with devs if an actor claims is damaging his honor or reputation or simple ask to be removed but not because a law put it as required. They ask in a video because they can't verify the authenticity of a document scanned but a digital sign certificated is good too.
In your head you are forgetting that internet is not under USA jurisdiction a v.g. a russian actor can choose jugde in Russia or any defendant address and only that law is valid.
If the actor keep silence is everything ok.
Anyway, the consent only use is prevent an eventual claim. Same based, they have no need to express been legal age.
By the way, in most European country's, central South America legal age is not 18, usually is 16. (Is not 18 very ridiculous, when 90% first time is between 14 and 16yo? Again some church prude there. And I double it, at the same time allow pedophile when the girl clearly looks like a 13 y.o. girl but they write: Sasha, 18 y .o., giving you the chance to change it, and like magic is everything cristal clear and protected by your law....)
I could make a book to fully explain this, but I hope is enough to see your ignorance.

For someone who claim to have a post graduate in Law in California, and therefore regarding common law, you seem to forget that said common law evolve with its time and the judicial precedent.
You keep talking only about the archaic USA system like the world is all around you.
Precisely, using 'precedents' is one of problems. 'Uses and customs' in the first approach you learn they always are against any change. They are based on tradition whitout rational reason (read Max Weber, Durkheim or any respected sociologist.)
A modern legal system make a Law after debating and approved by both legislative chambers. They are not a single law, they are all engaged making a 'SYSTEM' and been public allows to all the people clearly know them.
The Constitution is over all with basic rights and guarantees pritecting to the people, the employers, retired and kids, users and consumers and others. Not a few archeological amendments mostly not making any sense.
The precent is used like a law but not following any global system, was not created to solve a problem or give help to the citizen studying every possible situation and with 'justice' been the main purpose, it was only created to solve an unique and specific situation, unknown for citizens and made for a man with all his ideology in it. The usa supreme court had some greats members (like Marshal, or Brenan.) but also some members just pathetic.) .
And again, try to think before posting.
You just came blinded since you felt your big nationalism under atack put you in need to counter attack, then you didn't took a second to think and made very bad choices.
If you go again on your post i think how a big stupid you must be felling, trying to teach law to a lawyer!

And you would be right.

By the way, I never try to attack your dearest country nor any other. In fact, my country have much more to evolve than yours. I only referring to the Legal system.
 

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If you go again on your post i think how a big stupid you must be felling, trying to teach law to a lawyer!
So, anyone who try to teach you law is stupid?
Also could you say which country you try attack and which you're trying to protect and which is superior to the legal system?
 

Saerwen

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I see...
You know like the English is the language consensually used, to legal system the commonwealth is the strongest.
The problem is, commonwealth is almost medieval. It's far from the Roman legal system (French Napoleonic Code and all the occidental country not ruled by British).
Like,
Why Incest is forbidden and punished?
Is an old religious canon.
I never knew about anyone having sex with his parents but only the ethic is the limit.
The private actions of men are exempt from competent authority. This is one of the bases in a modern legal system.
Now, how can you get consent from a character ' hyper realistic' when, by definition, implies 'not existent'? If exist is real, "Ultra Rx grand hyperest realisitc" != Real.
But the real porn used in games are from the "free videos". They set free some scenes and upload the tho porn sites to promote the full video. A movie uses a 3 min spoiler but porn industry needs to go further to get attention.
And then, which are the parameters say if s render is 'hyper realistic'? The hyper realistic 10 years ago today is just realistic and probably in 10 or 20 years the hyper realistic will be almost like a guy standing in front of me.
The rule is abstract the requirement impossible and the damage they trying prevent is inexistent.



Sorry, by i really hate all this over controller laws and the fake freedom in the national slogan. Someone said, "the best slave is the one who think he is free".
I'm a lawyer and I really know about this. I have PhD in law (latin) and made a post grade in California learning deeply the commonwealth.
I don't understand this obsession with incest. Also, it's illegal using real people for porn.
 

Saerwen

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You are not the first one trying to teach me my work for 20 years and been studing12 years.
But please ar least goggle before.
So, can you you me where is that ruled?
Who told you that bullshit about consent?
First thing, in fact, the consent is not even a legal requirements. It's hard to explain from 0 but sites jeed the consent because they become jointly responsable with devs if an actor claims is damaging his honor or reputation or simple ask to be removed but not because a law put it as required. They ask in a video because they can't verify the authenticity of a document scanned but a digital sign certificated is good too.
In your head you are forgetting that internet is not under USA jurisdiction a v.g. a russian actor can choose jugde in Russia or any defendant address and only that law is valid.
If the actor keep silence is everything ok.
Anyway, the consent only use is prevent an eventual claim. Same based, they have no need to express been legal age.
By the way, in most European country's, central South America legal age is not 18, usually is 16. (Is not 18 very ridiculous, when 90% first time is between 14 and 16yo? Again some church prude there. And I double it, at the same time allow pedophile when the girl clearly looks like a 13 y.o. girl but they write: Sasha, 18 y .o., giving you the chance to change it, and like magic is everything cristal clear and protected by your law....)
I could make a book to fully explain this, but I hope is enough to see your ignorance.



You keep talking only about the archaic USA system like the world is all around you.
Precisely, using 'precedents' is one of problems. 'Uses and customs' in the first approach you learn they always are against any change. They are based on tradition whitout rational reason (read Max Weber, Durkheim or any respected sociologist.)
A modern legal system make a Law after debating and approved by both legislative chambers. They are not a single law, they are all engaged making a 'SYSTEM' and been public allows to all the people clearly know them.
The Constitution is over all with basic rights and guarantees pritecting to the people, the employers, retired and kids, users and consumers and others. Not a few archeological amendments mostly not making any sense.
The precent is used like a law but not following any global system, was not created to solve a problem or give help to the citizen studying every possible situation and with 'justice' been the main purpose, it was only created to solve an unique and specific situation, unknown for citizens and made for a man with all his ideology in it. The usa supreme court had some greats members (like Marshal, or Brenan.) but also some members just pathetic.) .
And again, try to think before posting.
You just came blinded since you felt your big nationalism under atack put you in need to counter attack, then you didn't took a second to think and made very bad choices.
If you go again on your post i think how a big stupid you must be felling, trying to teach law to a lawyer!

And you would be right.

By the way, I never try to attack your dearest country nor any other. In fact, my country have much more to evolve than yours. I only referring to the Legal system.
Ah yes, the unreasonable arguments of why you can fuck an underaged girls.
 

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So, anyone who try to teach you law is stupid?
Also could you say which country you try attack and which you're trying to protect and which is superior to the legal system?
Nothing like that, only someone without any knowledge in the matter and post all those nonsense while think so much of him self.
I wouldn't dare to teach coding to a systems engineer or a surgery to the surgeon, would you?
 

c3p0

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Nothing like that, only someone without any knowledge in the matter and post all those nonsense while think so much of him self.
I wouldn't dare to teach coding to a systems engineer or a surgery to the surgeon, would you?
You haven't answered all my other questions.
And it always depends. Eg. a system engineer can know nothing about coding and even more for a specific coding language or processor type.
And heart surgeon would usually know very little about brain operation. As a German tax lawyer knows almost nothing to defend a Polish criminal...
 
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Nocode

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Ah yes, the unreasonable arguments of why you can fuck an underaged girls.
Not saying underage by itself. Let's be clear. I said the must gillow the reality and no trying to create a new reality, and seems like 18yo is not what's really happening, like 21y.o. to have a beer while 17 is enough to fight in a wat and you can see 16 y.o. junkies, then fake IDs are everywhere...
 

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So, anyone who try to teach you law is stupid?
Also could you say which country you try attack and which you're trying to protect and which is superior to the legal system?
By the way. I not trying to attack any country more accurate, i'm not protecting any country, never met a good country deserving protection.
The most used Legal Systems in the world are 4, The originally Latin law (Europe, except GB, central and south America, former European colonies not british in Africa), The Commonwealth in country's influenced by GB, Indian and asian.
I don't have enough knowledge about the Indian or the Asian but Latib sysrrm y much better than commonwealth without a doubt.

I'm not talking about q country. I fact, Justice in my country is worst because the corruption.
 

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You haven't answered all my other questions.
And it always depends. Eg. a system engineer can no nothing about coding and even more for a specific coding language or processor type.
And heart surgeon would usually know very little about brain operation. As a German tax lawyer knows almost nothing to defend a Polish criminal...
Exactly, not his specific work and yet, I know my place would be learn from them.
I only imaging myself teaching brain surgeon process to a Heart surgeon make my laugh.
 

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Einstein second wife, Jerry Lee Lewis third wife, H.G. Wells first wife, Pedro Aguire Cerda, Sadam Hussein first wife, all 1st cousin. Rudy Giuliani first wife (2nd cousin), and of course, less close but more known, Franklin D. Roosevelt (5th cousin)
To fulfill the answer, Jerry Lewis was pedophile with a 13 years old girl, the incest is uncertain, she could be a 3rd grade cousin, and clearly pedophile is a crime. A 13yo is under submission to holders and can't give a valid sexual consent. HG Wells ( Like1880?) and Roosevelt neither was incest. Eleanor had same surname but a relation was unknown. You said Sadam Hussein for real??? You know about incest in Irak?
If you are thinking Woody Allen, she wasn't his daughter, she is his ex wife adopted daughter and he married her.
I'll help you, Francisco Pizarro kidnapped 'Athauslos' the Inca leader in 1533 he sentence him to dead, on Polygamy, incest and follow a fake idol (his god INCA).
:p

I know you could find more, I meant i never met personally to anybody in an incestuous relationship. Well, i fucked a far relative cousin of mine, should I go jailed?
 

iBedoMi

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Just look at this from the Patreon-Community-Guidelines:

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And this:

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I know, real-porn-games exist on Patreon, but as soon as one would report them, they would be removed.

Not sure about Steam and the others, but they surely have similar phrases in their guidelines.
and all these devs agree to this nonsense?!? thats hilarious… no wonder we only see 99% of the same lame slop again and again since all must be on patreon ..idk why even bother about patreon let these snitch dictator companies die … they r active interfering with the content but what they do to have these rights at all ? gibing a platform for ebegging and donations? i have now way less respect for anyone using patreon anyways for what reason …
 

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Now, how can you get consent from a character ' hyper realistic' when, by definition, implies 'not existent'? If exist is real, "Ultra Rx grand hyperest realisitc" != Real.
the screenshot says you need consent from the "real humans" the hyperrealistic people are based on. in other words, they only allow hyperrealistic people based on real people (and these real people have to give consent for this).
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hyperrealistic people and real people are essentially treated the same by patreon. patreon allows nudity of real and hyperrealistic people, but not sexually explicit content (masturbation, sex).

Who told you that bullshit about consent?
First thing, in fact, the consent is not even a legal requirements. It's hard to explain from 0 but sites jeed the consent because they become jointly responsable with devs if an actor claims is damaging his honor or reputation or simple ask to be removed but not because a law put it as required.
you're talking past each other. he is talking about another type of consent. consent in the game between characters that have sex. that is about patreon not allowing non-consensual sex.

btw, nice random quote. you're quoting a compressor in a game thread :KEK:
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and all these devs agree to this nonsense?!? thats hilarious… no wonder we only see 99% of the same lame slop again and again since all must be on patreon

i have now way less respect for anyone using patreon anyways for what reason …
and what should they use instead?

between steam, patreon, subscribestar and itch, steam was the only platform until now that actually gave their expressed approval of incest and rape - since they approved these games in their manual reviews and didn't have any explicit rule against it - but even steam now had to change their stance on this type of content (how that plays out remains to be seen)
 

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you're talking past each other. he is talking about another type of consent. consent in the game between characters that have sex. that is about patreon not allowing non-consensual sex.

btw, nice random quote. you're quoting a compressor in a game thread :KEK:
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Yah, and this is how all started. I complained about sites (Patreon triggered) with spirit republican, stoping some content not only because could be illegal but also it may be too hardcore for their morallity standards.

The idea of consent in the same scene still can't swallow it. Consent (not rape) have not any legal cause, only may be moral.
And so much they talk about under age but strictly by law, deaf-mutes who cannot make themselves understood in writing and those declared incapable (of expressing valid consent. They have a tutor designed by the state.) have exactly the same status but they never even mention.
Clearly focused in morality more than legality.
 

Nocode

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Patreon is unhealthy and dev are too small and lonely.
The only way is Devs creating their own group, ensembled like an Union.
Is the only way to get a voice, if the reach a good part of them (let say 40%) you can be sure they can step over Patreon and even push a new site creation.