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That's crazy, I still haven't played any female MC game about a IT professional. Or maybe you are talking about the scary clown?
You haven't played any female MC game about anything, because typical FMC have male behaviour patterns.
 

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If they are making a game about guys and for guys, why are they making the MC a woman ? Because they are hidden faggots?
A) Stop multiposting. Not only it's against the rules, it's annoying as hell. If you have something else to said, edit your last post.
B) Are Untitled Goose Game players hidden geese? What about Goat Simulator? That's not how it works.
 
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We are living in terrible times. Neural networks are still very SLOW. The economy still needs workers. There is a deficit artists and developers. There is a deficit female developers and writers. Disgusting male culture still dominates the media. It's still very difficult to create games.

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On question #3:
Rafster put it well. BDSM needs setup. And lots of writers have no real experience when it comes to BDSM, they have only watched some porn. But the real thing is different, because it involves lots of talking before and after a session. BDSM is more than just spanking and bondage.

To me, it's a way to explore sexual kinks / fantasies in a cerebral way. "Normal" sex usually is about giving in to your arousal. BDSM is more about conceptualization and realization. And of course, consent matters. Rape fantasies can be a viable fetish, but as soon as the rape gets non-consensual (= real), it has NOTHING to do with BDSM.

Furthermore, the relationship between a dom and a sub can be very complex. It can be purely related to BDSM play, but it's also possible to have romantic feelings for someone while doing BDSM sessions. As always, it depends on the individual case.
 

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but as soon as the rape gets non-consensual (= real), it has NOTHING to do with BDSM.
This is nonsense gatekeeping invented by real life BDSM communities solely because they fear persecution. It has no place in a setting like this one where everything is complete fantasy and all parties involved are fictitious.
 

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This is nonsense gatekeeping invented by real life BDSM communities solely because they fear persecution. It has no place in a setting like this one where everything is complete fantasy and all parties involved are fictitious.
Any activity in sex involving a couple, no matter how hardcore or vanilla it is, needs to be consensual or it isn't said activity. If you see any amateur porn video where the woman didn't consent, you're not watching a woman having sex, you're watching a woman being raped.

Even fictional characters can say no, you know? As long as the dev wrote that, if she says no, it means no. Then, if the game allows you to the thing she doens't want to do because it's a porn game and the final idea is pleasing the player, and if the woman ends liking it because of your magic dick and porn logic, that's another topic, but if you can't believe in the NPC's word when she says no just because she's fictitious, why will you believe the MC when he says he likes women and not men? He's just another fictitious character after all.
 
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And lots of writers have no real experience when it comes to BDSM, they have only watched some porn. But the real thing is different, because it involves lots of talking before and after a session.
And a lot of trust building before the first session. Unless it happen in a BDSM club, in which case there's the (relative) security offered by the crowd, no girl will ask you to tie her to the bed, hit her to blood, then furiously ravage her ass (to use the usual BDSM cliché) on the first date, nor the second, third, and so on until she trust you enough.
But what dev have time for this trust building in his story ? It's more "fuck, it's already in-game day 5 and they still have just vanilla spiced (spanking, hard groping) sex. I need to speed up".


Furthermore, the relationship between a dom and a sub can be very complex.
Talking about this, in my youth I known a couple where the girl was relatively submissive in life, letting her boyfriend decide for everything. And one day the guy confessed that he was her bitch when it come to sex.
It's also something that game authors have difficulties to figure. The role endorsed in the bedroom isn't necessarily dependent of your personality. The shy guy with a big heart that live next door can also be a dom when it come to sex, while the CEO of this so big company can perfectly crawl to his mistress feet the instant she snap her fingers.
 

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Any activity in sex involving a couple, no matter how hardcore or vanilla it is, needs to be consensual or it isn't said activity. If you see any amateur porn video where the woman didn't consent, you're not watching a woman having sex, you're watching a woman being raped.

Even fictional characters can say no, you know? As long as the dev wrote that, if she says no, it means no. Then, if the game allows you to the thing she doens't want to do because it's a porn game and the final idea is pleasing the player, and if the woman ends liking it because of your magic dick and porn logic, that's another topic, but if you can't believe in the NPC's word when she says no just because she's fictitious, why will you believe the MC when he says he likes women and not men? He's just another fictitious character after all.
Great post, I agree with everything you said.
 
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Any activity in sex involving a couple, no matter how hardcore or vanilla it is, needs to be consensual or it isn't said activity. If you see any amateur porn video where the woman didn't consent, you're not watching a woman having sex, you're watching a woman being raped.
This is some mental gymnastics. I don't think I've ever heard someone try and argue that rape isn't sex before. I've heard the idea that anything less than vaginal doesn't count (which at least has the fact that anus, mouth, etc are not sex organs going for it), but this is next level.
 

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Any activity in sex involving a couple, no matter how hardcore or vanilla it is, needs to be consensual or it isn't said activity. If you see any amateur porn video where the woman didn't consent, you're not watching a woman having sex, you're watching a woman being raped.

Even fictional characters can say no, you know? As long as the dev wrote that, if she says no, it means no. Then, if the game allows you to the thing she doens't want to do because it's a porn game and the final idea is pleasing the player, and if the woman ends liking it because of your magic dick and porn logic, that's another topic, but if you can't believe in the NPC's word when she says no just because she's fictitious, why will you believe the MC when he says he likes women and not men? He's just another fictitious character after all.
The activity is still the activity, the consent only determines if it's legal and/or responsible; and that only matters when involving real people who want to role-play said activity. But we're talking about games, not real people. Fictional characters don't require consent but the activity is still the activity regardless.
 
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This is some mental gymnastics. I don't think I've ever heard someone try and argue that rape isn't sex before. I've heard the idea that anything less than vaginal doesn't count (which at least has the fact that anus, mouth, etc are not sex organs going for it), but this is next level.
Yours is quite a mental gymnastic and a good example of why we live in a world who blames victims for being raped as much as the rapist. You can google this yourself: most of the times a man rapes a woman isn't even because of how horny the guy was or sexual pleasure at all, it mostly a man's way to show his power over a female and the main reason why the men gets off on that is because they know the woman is suffering, not because the """sexual act""" feels good itself.

The activity is still the activity, the consent only determines if it's legal and/or responsible; and that only matters when involving real people who want to role-play said activity. But we're talking about games, not real people. Fictional characters don't require consent but the activity is still the activity regardless.
Think it the other way, ask any rape fan in F95zone if a rape game is still a rape game even if every woman consent to have sex with the MC and they wait for him in bed with her best lingerie. Ask any rape fan if they feel the same satisfaction while playing the game if the woman struggles or not. Saying that fictional characters can't or don't requiere consent is like saying that every character in The Walking Dead is okay with being eat by a zombie, it doesn't matter what the characters say or think, they all will be zombie food sooner or later.

You probably saw or heard about The Human Centipede because the first thing everyone talks about that movie is that it is about a bunch of people being forced to each other's shit. I totally understand if someone who knows what the world "scat" means decides to use that word to describe the movie, but is that actually scat? Is the activity still the activity? Is that the kind of video that scat fans will search in some shady website and jerk off to? Is that something that non-scat fans will look at and think "that's a sexual activity"?
 

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  1. Why is the Protagonist in most games smaller than the Mother/Landlady, my mom is 5.9 feet tall, and I was the same size at age 16... it's disturbing, cos I think most male are at age 18 bigger (phrased that correct?) than the majority of females
  2. Why are females with a cup-size below D or DD considered small/flatchested, and why are A and B cups in games mostly tagged as loli?
  3. Why are BDSM games (yes there are exceptions but only in very small numbers) usually blackmail/rape games?
  4. Why are female protag games usually games where all males are dorks that try to rape, blackmail the Protag into sex, and why are they being so stupid to do it... it's mostly disgusting

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-to portray authority/seniority over the smaller male. if you make the guy bigger it looks like her husband instead of son and the power relation flips from underdog to abuser.
-thiccer is thiccer
-shota fetish. but these are their own separate group and you probably didn't mean these games.

2) because C is not big, and the tag is Big Boobs. the lolis are tagged lolis because they look underaged (whether they are or not), not because of small boobs. but as underage == small boobs there's correlation.

3) because D and S in BDSM.

4) not sure what you're asking here. it's the most popular category of female driven sex fantasies. if you read any women's mag fantasy section almost all of the stories have a FMC suddenly taken by force or without asking by a rough stranger.

is the question "why don't I like the most popular type of rape fantasy"? we can only guess. but my guess is you either don't enjoy being raped in a safe controlled environment, or you identify (against your will) with the male attackers and feel their guilt over their hideous acts. or in short: you don't have the fetish.
 

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4) not sure what you're asking here. it's the most popular category of female driven sex fantasies. if you read any women's mag fantasy section almost all of the stories have a FMC suddenly taken by force or without asking by a rough stranger.
I know what you meant, but in before the trolls from above jump on your comment:

Firstly, it's a fantasy they have. They dreams that it's a stranger, but in real life they wouldn't, and couldn't, do it with anyone else than their husband/boyfriend/lover. Being effectively raped would have the opposite effect on them.

Secondly, there no consensus behind this, but more than the force and roughness, what arouse them in this fantasy, and kink when they actually do it, seem to be the total loose of control. Some studies tend to demonstrate that it's due to the "usual role" of a woman, and even more the one of a mother. She's expected to be responsible for the cleanness of the house, it's welcoming feeling, the meal, the clothing, the shopping list, and of course the children ; and even more if you looks just 50/60 years back. I can understand why, from this point of view, the idea that suddenly they have no responsibilities, nor control, and yet get a lot of pleasure, can be both appealing and arousing.
 
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I know what you meant, but in before the trolls from above jump on your comment:

Firstly, it's a fantasy they have. They dreams that it's a stranger, but in real life they wouldn't, and couldn't, do it with anyone else than their husband/boyfriend/lover. Being effectively raped would have the opposite effect on them.

yes exactly. the huge difference between rape fantasy and real world rape is that in fantasy you're always 100% safe and in control of the fantasy. the fantasy is not to get raped in real life, the fantasy is to be raped safely. (and precisely in the way/intensity you yourself decide).
 
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1) The size of the character can indicate the age you want to show. And showing a young character can appeal to your audience. Can also indicate a less serious game, focusing more on the fuckery.
2) FLAT IS JUSTICE
3 & 4) Probably writing, I think.
 

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yes exactly. the huge difference between rape fantasy and real world rape is that in fantasy you're always 100% safe and in control of the fantasy. the fantasy is not to get raped in real life, the fantasy is to be raped safely. (and precisely in the way/intensity you yourself decide).
In top of that, if for whatever reason they really aren't in the mood, and don't have defined a safe word, an "I'm not kidding, not today !", said with their biggest voice, would stop everything in an instant.
Even if the two words feel opposed, it's "consensual rape". If they do not consent, at least tacitly, nothing will happen. And it's really important, because it's what make the rape be "safe", like you said.