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Snowsexxx32

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Came here for the technical details, stayed for the legal debate.

Is the AI controlling the scrapper-like, or are humans starting it, then providing the images to the AI ?
This is essentially already answered, but humans always kickoff each step of the work end to end. The current datasets discussed are scraped with some automation, and each data set you may use for training has its own sourcing method. The main example discussed is the LAION-5B which is just a set of images, URLs, and text.

A person set in motion the collection of this data, where the data itself was posted publicly. In many cases, that person would claim that they were pulling a public resource using software, which is the same thing a person using a browser is technically doing. The internet archive operates similarly.

A person then took that data and fed it into a system to train a diffusion model by adding noise to images with text in order to learn how to reverse from noise to an image that text also represents.

We can then take the AI model generated from the learning process, to convert pure noise into an image that matches the descriptors. A similar analogy would be to give an artist a look at a marble statue, and then give them a chunk of marble and tell them to sculpt something that matches the same description. They aren't told to duplicate it, just achieve the same goals for their representation, and the 'noise' in that medium will similarly change the result.


All this being said, it's only the right owners that can sue them, and I doubt that those who have the money for that have the time, while those who can have the time probably don't have the money.
- The tools themselves are unlikely to be a target, the tools don't actually have the images.
- The diffusion models also don't contain the images either, only a model that can be used to generate similar images, and since there are limitations to copyright of a style, that's probably not be actionable either. A case will eventually come up, but lawyers will wait to pick and example of this fight that they are certain they will win, because they won't want to set a precedent with a loss.
- The source data itself, like LAION, probably has the most risk, but they've set themselves up to pass that along as well, as they can point to the public URL.
- If the original URL owner had rights to post the image publicly, the discussion ends. If not, they get a takedown notice, and there's some uncertainty on how the rights get clawed back from repositories that archive data sourced from public URLs.


I won't be surprised though if the path forward on the ethics side is going to be based on generation of targeted individual likenesses (as people have rights to their own likeness). The messier side will be artistic styles, this process is as unlikely to directly replicate a copyrighted work as my cat is to leave a version of starry night in the litterbox.

Now time to go rewatch "Everything Is a Remix" for the ?th time, and maybe the explanation of the Amen break.
 
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You can actually run SD with 4GB or less VRAM! it's going to take a lot longer than say...12GB but y'know it works!

--RUNNING ON 4GB (And under!)--
These parameters are also useful for regular users who want to make larger images or batch sizes!
It is possible to drastically reduce VRAM usage with some modifications:

  • Step 1: Edit webui-user.bat
  • Step 2: After COMMANDLINE_ARGS= , enter your desired parameters:
    Example: COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--medvram
  • If you have 4GB VRAM and want to make 512x512 (or maybe larger) images,
    use --medvram.
  • If you have 2GB VRAM,
    use --lowvram
If you are getting 'Out of memory' errors on either of these, add --always-batch-cond-uncond to the other arguments

NOTES:

  • If you get a green/black screen instead of generated pictures, you have a card that doesn't support half precision floating point numbers (known problem on 16xx cards):
    You must use --precision full --no-half in addition to other flags, and the model will take much more space in VRAM
  • Make sure to disable hardware acceleration in your browser and close anything which might be occupying VRAM if you are getting out-of-memory errors, and possibly remove GFPGAN (if you have it)

keep in mind you will need a lot of VRAM for Textual Inversion processes (Training the AI) depending on vectors and sampling steps

I have different modules you can switch between in the settings as well!

(WAIFUAI, the stuff you see twitter users use for those victorian era big titty milfs)

(Disco Diffusion, which you can use for landscape shots)

(Midjourney Diffusion, the trained CKPT aka Module for the Midjourney style)

I also have the specific tags needed to generate the victorian era big titty milfs as mentioned above with WAIFUDF
you can find RestoreFace fixes for Stable Diffusion quite easily if you look them up online,

if anyone needs any help with specific things or any help at all with Stable Diffusion and it's offshoot modules do be sure to reply to me or send me a DM through discord- Jiub#0021

seen below are the images I've created with MidjourneyDF-WaifuDF-StableDF
 

The Rogue Trader

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I'm using Stable Diffusion UI

on a 4Gb VRAM PC and a 2Gb VRAM potato without any shade of problem.
All I had to do was disable "Turbo Mode" in the settings (and enable "Use CPU instead of GPU" for the old soldier).
Of course, one has to be realistic about these things: 512x512 is the limit (but I do 512x256 and then upscale with Topaz Gigapixel: SD takes 1 minute per image on the modern computer and 5 minutes on the relic).

Thanks for the ! You had me at "Victorian MILFS" :)
 
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I'm using Stable Diffusion UI

on a 4Gb VRAM PC and a 2Gb VRAM potato without any shade of problem.
All I had to do was disable "Turbo Mode" in the settings (and enable "Use CPU instead of GPU" for the old soldier).
Of course, one has to be realistic about these things: 512x512 is the limit (but I do 512x256 and then upscale with Topaz Gigapixel: SD takes 1 minute per image on the modern computer and 5 minutes on the relic).

Thanks for the ! You had me at "Victorian MILFS" :)
Oh yeah, if you can't think of any proper prompts to use, here's what I use for Victorian Milfs!

Postive Prompts

VICTORIAN GIRL,FEMININE,((PERFECT FACE)),((SEXY FACE)),((DETAILED PUPILS)).(ARTIST),ARTIST,ARTIST,(ARTIST). OIL PAINTING. (((LARGE BREAST)),((TONED ABS)),(THICK THIGH).EVOCATIVE POSE, SMIRK,LOOK AT VIEWER, ((BLOUSE)).(INTRICATE),(HIGH DETAIL),SHARP

Negative Prompts

((nipple)), ((((ugly)))), (((duplicate))), ((morbid)), ((mutilated)), (((tranny))), (((trans))), (((trannsexual))), (hermaphrodite), [out of frame], extra fingers, mutated hands, ((poorly drawn hands)), ((poorly drawn face)), (((mutation))), (((deformed))), ((ugly)), blurry, ((bad anatomy)), (((bad proportions))), ((extra limbs)), cloned face, (((disfigured))). (((more than 2 nipples))). [[[adult]]], out of frame, ugly, extra limbs, (bad anatomy), gross proportions, (malformed limbs), ((missing arms)), ((missing legs)), (((extra arms))), (((extra legs))), mutated hands, (fused fingers), (too many fingers), (((long neck)))

keep in mind, () means it's strengthening the specific prompt you're adding it to while adding [] weakens the prompt you add it to, and it works both on positive and negative prompts!

Enjoy!
 

applecider212

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You can actually run SD with 4GB or less VRAM! it's going to take a lot longer than say...12GB but y'know it works!

--RUNNING ON 4GB (And under!)--
These parameters are also useful for regular users who want to make larger images or batch sizes!
It is possible to drastically reduce VRAM usage with some modifications:

  • Step 1: Edit webui-user.bat
  • Step 2: After COMMANDLINE_ARGS= , enter your desired parameters:
    Example: COMMANDLINE_ARGS=--medvram
  • If you have 4GB VRAM and want to make 512x512 (or maybe larger) images,
    use --medvram.
  • If you have 2GB VRAM,
    use --lowvram
If you are getting 'Out of memory' errors on either of these, add --always-batch-cond-uncond to the other arguments

NOTES:

  • If you get a green/black screen instead of generated pictures, you have a card that doesn't support half precision floating point numbers (known problem on 16xx cards):
    You must use --precision full --no-half in addition to other flags, and the model will take much more space in VRAM
  • Make sure to disable hardware acceleration in your browser and close anything which might be occupying VRAM if you are getting out-of-memory errors, and possibly remove GFPGAN (if you have it)

keep in mind you will need a lot of VRAM for Textual Inversion processes (Training the AI) depending on vectors and sampling steps

I have different modules you can switch between in the settings as well!

(WAIFUAI, the stuff you see twitter users use for those victorian era big titty milfs)

(Disco Diffusion, which you can use for landscape shots)

(Midjourney Diffusion, the trained CKPT aka Module for the Midjourney style)

I also have the specific tags needed to generate the victorian era big titty milfs as mentioned above with WAIFUDF
you can find RestoreFace fixes for Stable Diffusion quite easily if you look them up online,

if anyone needs any help with specific things or any help at all with Stable Diffusion and it's offshoot modules do be sure to reply to me or send me a DM through discord- Jiub#0021

seen below are the images I've created with MidjourneyDF-WaifuDF-StableDF
If I may ask, where did you get the Midjourney ckpt?
 

applecider212

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Not too sure about crossthreading since I'm new to posting, so sorry if it breaks a rule, but I was wondering if you guys wanted a one-stop shop guide on all this. If you do, please vote on my poll so I can see what people think.

Also, there were recent developments that allowed for some good, easy, and consistent smut, which I'll post once I get to my three post requirement.
 
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Not too sure about crossthreading since I'm new to posting, so sorry if it breaks a rule, but I was wondering if you guys wanted a one-stop shop guide on all this. If you do, please vote on my poll so I can see what people think.

Also, there were recent developments that allowed for some good, easy, and consistent smut, which I'll post once I get to my three post requirement.
Took using a mashup of a handful of guides to get where I'm at now. Having an interesting time testing prompts across different models as some of the models used default booru tags (w/ underscores), while other models have stripped the underscores from the tags. I'm interested in what others are using for their results.
 

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for installing the AUTOMATIC1111 WebUI has pretty much superceded the GUItard guide AFAICT, maybe update OP?

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A few tips that might be of interest:

The prompt and other generation details are stored in image metadata and can be loaded through the PNG Info tab.

I've found that when generating pics by a particular , "by artist" and "art by artist" produce very different results if the artist's work is photorealistic. The former produces expected results, the latter produces results that are more like painting/drawing/etc.
 
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There's starting to be good models that can generate genitals. This site is useful for taking track of models: ( ). It's just the begining tho. The future will be incredible.
 

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For anyone using AUTOMATIC1111 WebUI, a was recently discovered that copies of generated images are left in randomly named subfolders (tmpn0z67p1e, tmprd__fl5b, etc.) of the user temp directory (default: C:\Users\<user>\AppData\Local\Temp).

This can end up consuming a lot of space, and can potentially be a privacy/security concern. I posted a possible workaround there.

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There's starting to be good models that can generate genitals. This site is useful for taking track of models: ( ). It's just the begining tho. The future will be incredible.
I tried the "Bare Feet / Full Body" models and a simple prompt and the results were unpleasant (all images had a fisheye effect). Maybe if used in concert with other models through the Checkpoint Merger tab they would prove useful though.
 
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fr34ky

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Do you think this is Stable Diffusion is the way to go to make erotic and porn AI generated art?

I've been coding for some years and never had such a headache trying to install something. I've been trying to make it work for like 10 hours today, tried to install all the packs with and without miniconda, read so many posts everywhere...

I have a RTX 2060 Super with 8GB VRAM so at least it should run the program.

I only want to know if it is worth or I should look something else.
 

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Do you think this is Stable Diffusion is the way to go to make erotic and porn AI generated art?
It depends on what you want to accomplish. A good place to see what's possible is .

I've been coding for some years and never had such a headache trying to install something. I've been trying to make it work for like 10 hours today, tried to install all the packs with and without miniconda, read so many posts everywhere...
Did you try following to install the ? That's the easiest way to get into it IMO (it's practically idiot-proof), and I may be able to help if you have trouble setting it up.
 

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Do you think this is Stable Diffusion is the way to go to make erotic and porn AI generated art?

I've been coding for some years and never had such a headache trying to install something. I've been trying to make it work for like 10 hours today, tried to install all the packs with and without miniconda, read so many posts everywhere...

I have a RTX 2060 Super with 8GB VRAM so at least it should run the program.

I only want to know if it is worth or I should look something else.
Porn is damn hit and miss: the realisitc NSFW models are quite limited in the positions available and a bit stubborn. For what I can see they're mostly aimed to create portraits/figure shots. My favourite tecnique is using an image reference for the general position (es. a blonde girl kneeling giving a double BJ on a beach), render a dozen or two of images, pick the parts I like and compose them in photoshop.
But I'm pretty bad at this AI-generation stuff, to be honest.
You probably will have more luck with cartoon/anime porn.
Your best chance is go to the Unstable Diffusion Discord channel and start poking around what can be done and how.

EDIT:
I don't know what your problem is with installation, but you could always give a try with Cmdr2 GUI that's a one-click no brainer.

Can you give some more details about the error youre getting?
 

fr34ky

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Did you try following to install the ? That's the easiest way to get into it IMO (it's practically idiot-proof), and I may be able to help if you have trouble setting it up.
I don't know what your problem is with installation, but you could always give a try with Cmdr2 GUI that's a one-click no brainer.

Can you give some more details about the error youre getting?
Edit: I tried all the shit you can imagine yesterday, long story short, today I used a different windows session that I had previously created for this kind of problems, opened that idiot proof guide and installed all straight away, no errors, no bugs, all smooth.

But it's still the same windows installation, just a different 'user', so I assume some files are fucked in that user, I messed a lot with python for 2 or 3 years in that user without using virtual environments so..., it works fine for my usual stuff, it's not laggy or anything but probably I'll have to consider formatting the drive when I have the time.

At the moment I can use Stable Diffusion in the other windows user without any problem :) so hopefully you'll be seeing my 3 1/2 arm and ugly faces art in the near future over here.

The good thing is that I can create the local server in the windows user that works and then go to my regular windows session and open the server with the IP in the browser, so I'll be working like that for the moment.
 
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But it's still the same windows installation, just a different 'user', so I assume some files are fucked in that user, I messed a lot with python for 2 or 3 years in that user without using virtual environments so..., it works fine for my usual stuff, it's not laggy or anything but probably I'll have to consider formatting the drive when I have the time.
Well, when I installed Automatic's WebUI on my office computer, I had to sweat quite a bit with Python paths (even wiping all my python installations and reinstall didn't work), so maybe that one was the issue.

Don't put too much hope in getting ugly faces out of the current models like the Hassan Blend series ;)
If you're still using SD 1.4 adding "beautiful face" or "sexy face" usually helps.
 
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fr34ky

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Well, when I installed Automatic's WebUI on my office computer, I had to sweat quite a bit with Python paths (even wiping all my python installations and reinstall didn't work), so maybe that one was the issue.

Don't put too much hope in getting ugly faces out of the current models like the Hassan Blend series ;)
If you're still using SD 1.4 adding "beautiful face" or "sexy face" usually helps.
With all the people talking about how the program worked and the stuff they were doing on it, I was feeling pretty stupid not being able to run it, I mean I've been learning python by myself for years and doing pretty cool things, my ego was getting so hurt :ROFLMAO:

Below a picture I created after watching a tutorial and playing around with prompts, no special models or anything, I hope it ads something to this thread :)
 
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Complete noob here, is it possible to install multiple modules within one installation directory?

And can they be switched on the fly? Whilst using Stable Diffusion
 

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Complete noob here, is it possible to install multiple modules within one installation directory?

And can they be switched on the fly? Whilst using Stable Diffusion
If with modules you mean models (checkpoints): sure to both. Now I can't remember where the command is in Automatic's WebUI, but you can bet that's very easy.