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WayneDwayne

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like I mean wont the market get way too oversaturated?

will it be possible in the next years people can make visual novel with story like eternum and amazing visuals just with a prompt?

i wonder what will happen
 

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2D visual novels with interesting stories, good characterization and meaningful sex scenes are becoming a past. Today, we have 3D, and cartoon AI, copy paste stories, 100 different kinks. In the upcoming years, we will have an advanced realistic AI that it will be impossible to tell whether it's real or not. Kids and minors, teens and adults both gender. Futuristic plot, AI characters and taboo themes with more hardcore kinks that aren't that much present now(somehow they will be legal on adult sites).
 
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Well... is it still worth working then? AI is popping up in pretty much every job out there. Is it worth taking photos? AI can make those out too.

AI isn't going anywhere, it's just part of the world we live in now. Sure, it can generate decent images and tell stories, but it won't capture the nuances of your personal vision, your experiences, or the specific details you want to convey. A particular moment, the way two characters glance at each other, the subtle stuff that creates the exact tension you're aiming for, those are things AI can't fully replicate.

Will AI keep getting better? For sure. But I doubt AI generated mass production will kill the market. If anything, I believe it's gonna drive people to value human crafted content more.

AI is a tool. In the end, humans connect with humans, not tools.
 

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To be pessimistic: Creators will have to adapt to an industry where AI is used like a tool. Just like when powerdrills replaced manual ones. We will just have to go with the times and use modern tools in order to be able to compete

To be optimistic: Real Art comes from a human expressing themselves. That's something no machine can ever replace. In a world flooded by AI slop, people will crave for something real. That will make it stand out
 

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To be pessimistic: Creators will have to adapt to an industry where AI is used like a tool. Just like when powerdrills replaced manual ones. We will just have to go with the times and use modern tools in order to be able to compete

To be optimistic: Real Art comes from a human expressing themselves. That's something no machine can ever replace. In a world flooded by AI slop, people will crave for something real. That will make it stand out
The elite artists will always have a place. My worry is for the beginners just learning. In the past, they could pick up an odd job here and there to build up their resume and earn some cash. Now, they will need to eclipse a higher threshold to be considered over AI.
 
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Every job every where is going to eventually be mostly done by AI. We'll all be poor and have little to nothing unless we adapt. The printing press killed off scribes, the automobile killed the street horse poop cleaner, etc etc.

Now is the time to come together in groups and tribes and people, discuss ideas on what to do in places like discord (still having issue admins getting on/in) and forums etc to figure out what exactly to do and how we'll survive the coming and already here hard times imo.

If your asking career wise its a new ball game, schools aren't caught up yet at teaching the skills you'll be needed real freaking soon so gotta go and explore and figure shit out on your own for now and/or learn traditional everything and become a master real quick with great social presence (maybe, just guessing here).

It'll take some time for companies to make the switch but they already are eyeing it and not hiring unless they have to (a job scarcity problem atm), and i think it'll only get worse for those that don't hug/embrace the AI tool/skill usability stuff.

Imo the market is already way over saturated and I'm hoping some other new and better platform comes along for the people and games that aren't the ones that get 50+ reviews in the first day with $250k sales for their game in 2 days ( ).
 
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AI slop isn't coming for your passion projects.
It's come to replace the slop that's always been around. Trash artists churning out commissions have always been a thing. Non-artists who learn the trade solely because it's a barrier to entry in other work have always been a thing. AI is starting to make that obsolete. This is a good thing.
Passionate people with a genuine desire to master the craft will always be in demand. What you're going to see less of is people getting paid a pittance by someone who just really wants to see a foxgirl in a diaper soiling herself.
The barrier to entry will be higher. But is the consumer base collectively demanding higher quality product for their money really such a bad thing?
 

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AI will not replace art no matter how much people want. It's not actual AI, but generative model. It can't make thinks without human. AI art will be propably standard as using DAZ or HS. But for answer if is it still worth making games with ai going around, then YES! Nobody can predict fail or success. People still want original work by human hand.
 

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AI will not replace art no matter how much people want. It's not actual AI, but generative model. It can't make thinks without human. AI art will be propably standard as using DAZ or HS. But for answer if is it still worth making games with ai going around, then YES! Nobody can predict fail or success. People still want original work by human hand.
Let me add another point to this discussion
2D visual novels with interesting stories, good characterization and meaningful sex scenes are becoming a past. Today, we have 3D, and cartoon AI, copy paste stories, 100 different kinks. In the upcoming years, we will have an advanced realistic AI that it will be impossible to tell whether it's real or not. Kids and minors, teens and adults both gender. Futuristic plot, AI characters and taboo themes with more hardcore kinks that aren't that much present now(somehow they will be legal on adult sites).
Every job every where is going to eventually be mostly done by AI. We'll all be poor and have little to nothing unless we adapt. The printing press killed off scribes, the automobile killed the street horse poop cleaner, etc etc.

Now is the time to come together in groups and tribes and people, discuss ideas on what to do in places like discord (still having issue admins getting on/in) and forums etc to figure out what exactly to do and how we'll survive the coming and already here hard times imo.

If your asking career wise its a new ball game, schools aren't caught up yet at teaching the skills you'll be needed real freaking soon so gotta go and explore and figure shit out on your own for now and/or learn traditional everything and become a master real quick with great social presence (maybe, just guessing here).

It'll take some time for companies to make the switch but they already are eyeing it and not hiring unless they have to (a job scarcity problem atm), and i think it'll only get worse for those that don't hug/embrace the AI tool/skill usability stuff.

Imo the market is already way over saturated and I'm hoping some other new and better platform comes along for the people and games that aren't the ones that get 50+ reviews in the first day with $250k sales for their game in 2 days ( ).


what I was thinking is that if people will stop supporting creators? like stop buying their adult games or subscribing to their patreons?

because let's just think about in 5 years, maybe they even make a a visual novel creator that u can write a prompt and it automatically creates the game for you, makes the art and you guys know you can even get music and text to speech.

so like it would be very simple to make to the point almost everyone can make great ones cheap, so then making a succesful adult visual novel and making a living off it will become impossible? cause that's what i really wanted to do.
 

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I think the real question is, is aAI even worth it? It's just for lazy people who are looking to make a quick buck. I've tried a few and they were all just the same shovleware the everyone else is doing.

I don't consider them real projects at all. Anyone who make a game with even the slightest bit of passion with trounce any AI "game" on the market.
 

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I think the real question is, is aAI even worth it? It's just for lazy people who are looking to make a quick buck. I've tried a few and they were all just the same shovleware the everyone else is doing.

I don't consider them real projects at all. Anyone who make a game with even the slightest bit of passion with trounce any AI "game" on the market.
I hope that it's true what ur saying. Im working on a big project and im scared im just wasting my whole time. like i spend basically my whole free time on it and i hope to get some support, i think it's good as of right now.

But I'm scared AI will get so good my animation skills mean nothing, my storytelling and even technical skills will just get destroyed by an auto visual nover making ai, look at how it's progressing.

Look at OpenAi the new image generation, it's getting too nutty.
 

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what I was thinking is that if people will stop supporting creators? like stop buying their adult games or subscribing to their patreons?
Nope. AI have same issue as DAZ or HS. They look SAME. Literally most AVN here are same with small difference and yet people support this. Most likely what happen is people will more think where spend money, because each year there is more and more games. Possibly developers will be forced make more unique games and that's not possible with only AI.

because let's just think about in 5 years, maybe they even make a a visual novel creator that u can write a prompt and it automatically creates the game for you, makes the art and you guys know you can even get music and text to speech.
I think there is tool for that right now. Honestly making visual novel is not really rocket science like game engine with 3D realtime rendering.

so like it would be very simple to make to the point almost everyone can make great ones cheap, so then making a succesful adult visual novel and making a living off it will become impossible? cause that's what i really wanted to do.
Great? Propably not. Cheap? Definitely, but this was even before AI. Difference is in amount of shitpile. Anyway all depends on people. If most people want it, then they have no rights complain about degrade.
 

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like I mean wont the market get way too oversaturated?
Saturated with low quality stuff maybe, at most it just bloats the size of the lower end.

In the end I feel like AI is just another tool rather than a full replacement. (I mean before AI we just had a ton of generic looking Koikatsu/Honeyselect art, the only thing that changed is the tool)

Honestly I hope it gets to the point people realise that it's not about creating "a game" but a "GOOD game"

AI is quite repetitive so creators still have to put effort to stand out, and I feel like the main reason that lots of low quality stuff appear is people don't realise the AI generated part of their game will NOT be the main draw.

The main advantage of AI is the sheer possible volume, if you simply replace the workload that a normal artist would do you more or less just pull down the total quality of the game. AI opens up a new possibility of games with more art than is feasible with human artists (under a reasonable budget), although I rarely see people utilize this(one so far), and even if it is utilized, they need to be careful about the repetitiveness being obvious.

Another possible use nowadays is that it'll help writers make their games where they normally would not have the capacity to make by using AI art to speed up the process, it'll put a heavier emphasis to their writing skills since it'll be the only thing that'll make or break their game unless they are really bad at choosing the art from AI.

will it be possible in the next years people can make visual novel with story like eternum and amazing visuals just with a prompt?

i wonder what will happen
Yeah that is a little scary to think about, having the minimum quality of AI content creep up. However this means people need to increase their own quality to be above the bar AI sets.

AI writing especially now is more or less just repetition based on whatever it read, so it won't be able to make new stuff, or know exactly what makes something stand out. Not to mention AI writing is quite... yappy.

Although in terms of writing the only new possibility it'll open is more sandboxy style freedom in certain games, where the freedom to do things is the main draw and some generic-ness is expected.

what I was thinking is that if people will stop supporting creators? like stop buying their adult games or subscribing to their patreons?

because let's just think about in 5 years, maybe they even make a a visual novel creator that u can write a prompt and it automatically creates the game for you, makes the art and you guys know you can even get music and text to speech.

so like it would be very simple to make to the point almost everyone can make great ones cheap, so then making a succesful adult visual novel and making a living off it will become impossible? cause that's what i really wanted to do.
If it's about selling a game it's about hitting the demographic you're aiming for, not generic stuff, do some research in what your target demographic really loves, and craft it with care. AI is a tool that can help you do fixed things like grammar correction or math/debugging, but for creative things they'll be generic unless they gain sentience. Maintain your creativity to stand out in a way or two, and find the market you want to aim for, "generic popular tag visual novel about generic people" isn't going to be too successful no matter the quality.

Even in the case that AI really becomes so good that it can do majority of things for you, it still can't come up with ideas, and from what I see in certain areas of the industry, a lot of people have good ideas but awful execution, if it comes to the point that AI can improve the execution of such things, success comes down to the quality of the idea.


Just need to learn the difference between having AI help you and relying on AI. Not to mention the copyright law stuff in 5 years time, right now it's all in the greyzone.
 

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what I was thinking is that if people will stop supporting creators? like stop buying their adult games or subscribing to their patreons?

because let's just think about in 5 years, maybe they even make a a visual novel creator that u can write a prompt and it automatically creates the game for you, makes the art and you guys know you can even get music and text to speech.

so like it would be very simple to make to the point almost everyone can make great ones cheap, so then making a succesful adult visual novel and making a living off it will become impossible? cause that's what i really wanted to do.
What your worried about is if you'll be wasting your time or not, and if you'll be able to make a living. Dude I couldn't tell you for sure but just like when the internet came online, when onlyfans started, etc theirs a brief window of opportunity to act and take advantage of it in the adult entertainment scene BUT even then content quality and good reputation / and size will still be king.

Currently on adult image sites the "ai_assisted" tag does and is looked at a lot better than the "ai_generated" tag because it still has a human feel and corrections do to the images and their are fewer of them, and i believe that is where everyone is eventually going to go/be. However you still have images that don't have either and sites that just straight up ban ai images. Their is currently still a market for that stuff but its like early Final Fantasy games vs more recent ones with the same mechanics but more and xbox/pc/sony/twitch/etc features/access too. The old style does compete (example Sea of Stars) but its gotta be damn good.

Right now we're in a bear market transitioning to (or trying to) as bull market, we have been for years, maybe even a decade if you want my opinion. Once this DEI stuff is out of the way and people have learned to make and use AI as a tool then I think we might have some progress, maybe. But until then doesn't wait around.

I think with the way the industry has been pushing it everyone who makes games will be like the starving artist if they aren't already, which is why charisma and an audience that specifically follows you is important (example the GameMakersToolkit guy and his game, w/o his already built audience he wouldn't have gotten the sale nor feedgame for his game). Its even been said by one of the top AI guys in 5-10 years it'll be more valuable to have 1 million followers than to have/build/release the newest best AI model.

So will you be ok making a living solely by making/selling your game, I couldn't tell you.
 

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We are still very far away from that happening. While some AI models might have the capacity to do it right now, it would take a substantial amount of work for the user to make it good. It would just be easier to make the game yourself, using AI as an assistant.

The core problem is that AI just isn't good enough yet. While large models like ChatGPT might have the capabilities, it's also extremely censored. The only other two companies who might have the capability, Anthropic is also censored, and Deepseek which has less censorship, but also doesn't have image generation. So, fundamentally we can rule those out. I doubt either Grok or Gemini can do it currently.

You can bypass local LLM's to have no censorship, but in order to use a model large enough to create the game, the person doing it would basically need to invest at minimum 10k USD, but even then the game wouldn't be great. Not to mention a bunch of different drawbacks. Plus, I highly doubt that would even provide the amount of memory needed to make a game.

Adult games has always had an influx of slop. Rather it be machine translated Russian or Japanese games, or an influx of random RPGM games, or a bunch of bad games coming out during Covid. AI is just another notch in the ever ending pool of slop. Nothing more. However, just because they were slop, didn't mean they weren't useful to the community. Some of the Russian games were pretty good, and some created entire genre's that we still see today. Some of the Covid era games turned out to be good, and some inspired other developers to make similar, oftentimes better versions of that slop.

The current AI boom will inevitably calm down once people get bored, or realize they aren't making any money. Meanwhile, those who generally like AI will go on to create tools, or other useful guides to help current and future developers. This will inevitably make games easier, and faster to produce.

Not to mention the fact that AI is a useful creative tool. As a medium, we've relied on the same troupes used time and time again. However, with an increase of games that use AI, the text generation process should inevitably come up with scenarios and events that create new, and more interesting moments that future game developers will end up using in their own, much better games. Where's the problem there?

There are multiple other benefits to AI as well, but overall I believe AI isn't just the future of adult games, but likely the savior for many who believe that games have become stale or have stagnated. The current AI slop is nothing more than growing pains that come from new technology.
 

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making a succesful adult visual novel and making a living off it
I hate to break it to you, but those dreams were already very unrealistic.
The percentage of erotic game devs who could make a living off their work pre-AI has always been a rounding error away from zero. For visual novels, specifically, your chances are even worse. And the handful of projects that actually do pull a livable income have several years of development behind them.

I'm not going to tell you not to try. I'm just saying that AI is not even close to the biggest reason it's not likely to happen.
 
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I hate to break it to you, but those dreams were already very unrealistic.
The percentage of erotic game devs who could make a living off their work pre-AI has always been a rounding error away from zero. For visual novels, specifically, your chances are even worse. And the handful of projects that actually do pull a livable income have several years of development behind them.

I'm not going to tell you not to try. I'm just saying that AI is not even close to the biggest reason it's not likely to happen.
People making the games for money is backwards thinking, before patreon & the ability to properly monetize games were still around, they were just passion projects. The money element if anything is what caused the saturation, and slop shovelware games trying to do a quick cash grab. AI is just the latest tool for a shovelware issue that started long ago.

It seems (like in most things) the more successful games are made by people who want to play their own game, and it shines through and people support it.

Imagine if J.R.R tolkein sat down to write a novel for money. The best creatives start because they have an idea and a want to do it, and if it resonates with others thats what seems to translate across to success.

I am not saying porn games are the same as LOTR, just that you can really tell games the dev is passionate about vs trying to cash grab. The bane of good games isnt AI, its passion projects that get alot of success, and the dev then tries to keep it going indefinately long after the passion is gone (like a TV series into its 20th season).
 

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AI here is used in the wrong way.
Use it to make your "3D characters" come to life.
create the models and the environments and just let AI do the animations.
3D content will still be the base for years to come so dont worry.
text to video or text to image AI content is still an inconsistent mess and its very limited.
as an example you cant just change camera view with "text to image" AI and keep the models face intact or the environment intact.

if i want to change camera view i do it in 3D like you see on the second image
then i let AI do the magic.
with good prompts you can control your 3D models like you want and AI will make it happend.
mostly ;)

if AI has good 3D reference images it can do magic with them.
check my X site and you will see.

the only downside right now is that you cant do NSFW and nude videos.
i hope it will change.

check these posts on my X page.



and this post that proves that this is created in Daz 3D



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Reference render created in Daz 3D
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but yeah
AI cant fix poor 3D content.
its you who set the bar here AI just follows it.
 
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