QSP - Jack-o-Nine-Tails [v2.3] [ImperatorAugustusTertius / qwertyu12359]

Jack-o-nine-tails (JoNT) version 1.7.5 (least buggy version available) vs Other Training Games (e.g. Slave Maker 3 [SM3], Strive for Power [SfP], etc.)
PROS:
- very complex slave training algorithm: Satisfyingly so. Simple button mashing won't do.
- sophisticated rewards/punishments system: Training success and failure merit reward/punishment respectively. Too much reward/punishment will screw up training. Repeating the same rewards over and over doesn't work either.
- complex sex system: So much more sophisticated than the competition.
- image customization: One of the best features. Can customize all images, can add even more, can use animated GIFs. Can replace ugly or boring default images with better ones.
NEUTRALS:
- hardware requirements: Positive >> Can be run on a toaster compared with Strive for Power's godot engine. Negative >> Saving time slow and gets even slower over time vs nearly instant saving time for SfP.
- dark themes: Positive for some, negative for others. SM3 and SfP are very tame compared to JoNT.
- combat: Positive >> Somewhat sophisticated combat where button mashing won't do. Negative >> No party combat; gladiatrices restricted to arena and can't use the uber items.
- learning curve: Positive >> Quite steep. Very satisfying when figured out. Negative >> Quite steep. Bad for casual players.
CONS:
- hidden bugs: Because JoNT doesn't have a single modder but instead was modded over time by lots and lots of different people the game can be quite buggy. Guys who made parts of the game disappear leaving subsequent modders scratching their heads whenever they change or add something to the game and new bugs crawl out of the woodwork. In fairness some people consider this game so frickin awesome they don't mind the bugs.
- shortcut buttons: To trigger a single action/event in the game at least 4-5 buttons need to be clicked every time. This gets tedious before long. Game needs more shortcut buttons for most frequently used actions like the rewards/punishments buttons and the bathing buttons.
- need to frequently switch screens: To play JoNT it is important to pay attention to various statistics. This can become tedious in some instances. The most annoying one being the calorie counter. Watch this closely or don't bother with sexy girls at all.
- no plot: Game doesn't have plot at all except the postgame quest. SfP and the classic girls in SM3 do.
- gore button: JoNT has option to hide gory images, but just images. Texts about gore aren't hidden, breaking immersion. SM3 and SfP have little if any gore.
- endgame content: Pointless playing long game. Gold no longer a problem. Enemies become pushovers. Training becomes very repetitive. Postgame reward pointless at that point in the game. Saving time gets slower and slower. SfP on the other hand has nice endgame combat.
- RNG events: RNG events when implemented well keep games fresh. JoNT doesn't have random events except for outcomes of chariot races. SM3 has random events. SfP has random events, random items and random quests.

Jack-o-nine-tails version 1.8 (basis of most recent version) vs Jack-o-nine-tails version 1.7.5
NEUTRALS:
- wearable items common to entire household vs individual slave. Positive >> For noobs this is great, will save lots of gold during the game. Negative >> Will make players lazy when purchasing items, removing some of the resource management fun; breaks immersion when giving gifts.
CONS:
- lots and lots of added bugs, too many to list

Jack-o-nine-tails version 2.0 (beta, most recent version 2) vs Jack-o-nine-tails version 1.8
PROS:
- hands down much better image quality: uniformity of image styles rather than hodgepodge of 2D, 3D, animated/non-animated and everything in between
- much better audio: frequent volume adjustment no longer needed
- fixed some 1.8 bugs
- no loli version: Perfect for people who don't want to run afoul of certain laws. Or for those who find the theme offensive.
NEUTRALS:
- PNG vs GIF: All images are now PNGs. This doesn't achieve much actually except for mass renaming/formatting hundreds of image files at once. A PNG-quality GIF can be created by taking a PNG then changing its file extension to .gif (the reverse doesn't apply).
- image variety: Positive >> More slave face and body images. Negative >> Half of loli images are just resized images of older girls. Neutral >> Increase of variety of scene images not noticeable vs 1.8 because the usual image set is 3 images based on age and 1 image based on age and hair (noticeable when training girls of same age the same skills even with different hair).
- retained remaining 1.8 bugs
CONS:
- saving time: If you think saving time was slow before...
- animated images no longer possible: 2.0 only uses PNGs. JoNT engine can play animated GIFs, not animated PNGs.
- new bugs: Most serious is fatal bug when muting sound. Fatal bugs, unlike normal bugs, when triggered cause the entire game to crash/stop functioning. By itself this particular bug can be avoided (by not muting sound). The problem is the implication. Normal bugs are caused by tired and/or sloppy coders. Fatal bugs indicate unfamiliarity with coding language itself. Result >> Coders who create fatal bugs are more likely to overlook more bugs and/or create more bugs compared to coders who leave normal bugs. It is possible 2.0 has more unreported bugs. In fairness to the mod authors, this is a beta, they don't know much about coding and random members of the community who know coding show up every now and then to fix things.

Summary:
- If you want the best Jack-o-nine-tails version there is, play the latest beta, report findings in the thread and if you can code help the mod authors.
- If you just want to play on the get go take 1.7.5 then replace images (using the PNG-quality GIF trick mentioned above) and audio, if desired.

This game is a masterpiece in gamedesign. The Psychlogical aspect is unique and so complex that no other game has anytzhing comparable. Sure there are a few things not perfectly done but overall this game is even in the sfw mode just so intresting and with the visual aspect in it its so appealing.

One thing i would wish is that the "model" of the slave would be used in every picture the slave participates.

Very good game, definitly enough gameplay for more than once.

I suggest everyone who is interested in bdsm games to test this one - you won't be disappointed. We had few other games where you are training slave, but none of them had this quaility of deep in this.

Some folks love this game. Some puke.

If you dig lolis, cannibalism and senseless graphic violence you'll love this. You can take your preferred medieval method of killing random women, old, young and some not even in their teens and you'll be rewarded with graphic scenes in all their glory. Your character can even cook and eat them. For good measure get yourself a bunch of parasitic chestbusters, complete with sound.

The fun part is starting the campaign when the game actually is hard. You need to know your game mechanics and be conservative using Sparks which is what they call the money in this game.

But after you get the hang of it you'll get tired clicking the same buttons over and over just to get your slave to high ranks.

Finally, don't play with too many slaves in one playthrough. The longer you play the longer the saving takes.

If tomorrow were the end of the world you should play this game today. A moment of saving takes an eternity.

Dark, difficult and not hand held at all. As on old time gamer that feels pretty great, and while the learning curve may be a bit high, that makes it the more rewarding. The training times feel right, nice selection of skills to train, kinda interesting npcs to sell the slaves to. Though it lacks a bit of randomness in the day to day gameplay, making it feel a bit repetitive. Due to his hard difficulty the game feels pretty rewarding, nothing beats getting that first S+ slave, winning your first champion match at the arena, or conquering the fog battles. It's not a game for everyone, but that is life for you xD

Good game, with a lot of sex stuff! Old Huntsmen and the other modders make a good job. It is good to see, that the gamedevelopment is still running. But the game is very hard to finish, I hope for the feature, that mods it makes easier.

This game is one of the hardest, if not THE hardest, trainer games out there. Newbies can indeed be turned off by the steep learning curve. But once you get the hang of it you'll probably become hooked. This had been abandoned by its original creator 5 years ago but thanks to its devotees it has been continually modded and enhanced again and again over the years.

All the clicking is the result of the limitations of the QSP Engine on which this game is built. All the different options available to the player that make this game so complicated require either cramming the screen with various buttons or creating limited options on-screen with various sub-options. When the UI interface was being designed before almost all the players told the modders that they prefer a little more clicking as opposed to cramming the screen with so many little buttons. And so the modders went with the desire of the majority of players.

A little known fact to newbies is that if they're repeating the same dialogs over and over, doing the same things over and over, basically clicking the same things over and over, this game is supposed to make them fail. This isn't like Slavemaker 3 where a newbie can just click his way to success. The player is expected to vary his actions and to take note of the various status reports and act accordingly. If he doesn't take careful notes of the various status reports as of the current day and proceed to just repeat what he had done the previous day then he'll eventually fail as well.

Another overlooked fact by newbies who don't read the threads both here and at HF is the need to pile on different reward/punishment moodlets over the week (not just over the day). Depending on their levels these moodlets can last for just the current day or over 5 days. To take maximum advantage of this players need to vary their rewards/punishments of strength 2 or greater and to take note of when the moodlets would expire. This mechanic is similar to games such as The Sims where players pile on positive moodlets before doing any skill building activity. This is actually explained by Nemth, one of the earlier modders of this game in the HF thread.

Players can build better slaves (even S+) once they get the hang of the mechanics. Plenty of newbies (not just veterans) manage to do this without fuss if they diligently read all the tips especially in the threads, not just in the wiki, as well as asking in the F95 thread if they're stumped

At its core this is essentially a very hard trainer game. But that is the draw for most players of this game. If you want easier games then you should look elsewhere.

Players can actually easily mod this game to get their desired image, dialog, or story while knowing little to nothing about programming anything. With some knowledge of qsp programming the gameplay mechanics can also be modified to whatever suits the modder.

Note that many commercially available games out there such as many Japanese eroge games are even more grindy than this one. Sure, this game doesn't have the fancy graphics. But this is free. And any player willing to do a little work can actually easily mod this game to however he wants it to be.

The game actually has an easy mode for the benefit of newbies. If that' not enough, there are many cheat codes culminating in the maximum cheats code that combines all the other cheats. The max cheat was specifically designed for players who still fail the game in easy mode despite using all the other cheats.

Actually, there had only been just one purported case as of posting of anybody actually still failing in the game even after using any kind of cheat, let alone the maximum cheat. Note that the poster had combed through every single Jack-o-Nine-Tails post here at F95 and even at the old HongFire threads for posters claiming to have failed in the game after using any kind of cheat.

This game has been modded by different people over the years. A common theme is the extreme difficulty for newbies and even to veterans. Rest assured that the current modders will still keep this difficulty. Unless a significant proportion of the community makes the case to lower its difficulty, it shall remain that way; it already has an easy mode, cheats and the maximum cheats mode.

If you liked this game before, you'll like it even better now that it is once again actively being modded. You are hereby encouraged to participate in the improvement of this already fantastic game.

This is probably as some say one of the better trainer games. But with a lot less story or depth, grafics and toppped with grueling management.
You need to be ok with having to click 1-2 new step and 3 repeat dialogs away, EVERY single time you make a decission... EVERY SINGLE TIME. You dont get visual effect changes, so if you wanna learn on your own... the learning curve is very steep (effects of what you do, can take a week to show a minor increase and in temperament cases, a LOT longer than that.) Many mechanics are just grueling, keeping them from going insane, just long enough for u to sell them, requires around 60-100+ clicks PR DAY, the excact same clicks as the day before... so redundant.
Ah yes, and dont think you can spend time on your slaves to build good ones, thats not really doable or worth it here.
If you prefer all that micromanagement over everything else, this is def the game for you, if not, play any of the other trainer games. Youll get trainers with better story, trainers with better grafics, and trainers that arent using mechanics grind to prolong the game unncessarily. Youll most likely get a lot more sex options with a lot better dialog , than this. And often youll even get grafics for the specific girl youre training, rather than here, where you get milf sucking dick picture, when training a loli. For sure, you wont get as many optionals for selling your slaves in other games... but that is not really what i seek in a trainer game.
Its really not that great a game... for me. Spent some 4-5 hours on it, then went and read guides for hours, because the logic approach wasnt working. Then spend another 6-8 hours trying differently following guides that pretty much assumed you cheated (and so i did), to very little different effect from first go.
edit:
In case someone says read everything then you learn the game, be prepared for days of research... and I mean actual days of actual research, not just a random read. Everything conflicts with former statements. And the above rating is a direct comment at mine, where he says youre doomed to fail if you do the same repeatedly. I didnt say i did that, I stated the game itself is one big repetative loop, of clicking away information boxes that says exactly the same as the last time you clicked it. A huge increase in workload to get any results. So much so, that if you play this game for a longer period of time, youll get a sore clicker finger. And its not at all needed. When I say you will do 100 clicks, it means 100 clicks to do very little. 5 6 things or so. Menus are crap and every option you do have several unchanging information boxes to click every single time you do them, regardless of if you do it right or wrong. This is a game where you spend more time clicking away infoboxes than you do actually paying attention to the game itself. Mostly because you already knows what the infobox tells you after having read the first word, since its repeated oh so many times. And that alone drags this game down A LOT.
Newer trainer games manages this a lot better. As said, time ran away from this game, it probably was good, and it has a hardcore following, but if you didnt play back then, dont bother. Itss a mess conpared to others. Calling it hard to deflect from its poor management system, is kind of redundant, because its hard because its badly made. Even modded. Just pay attention to the key words ppl use about this game. Diligent reading, hardcore, steep learning curve, veterans... those are all bad words for a game, and worse yet for a porn game.

tldr:
If you didnt play this back then, youll most likely not gonna be fond of it now. It doesnt meassure up any longer.

First and best game ever made for me and maybie many others

- Strategy
- Gameplay for 1000 Hours until you balls are dead
- Slavery Managemant
- Can be hard to play if you slave wanna kill you
- Dark atmosphere niiiiceeee
- Many posible housing options
- Cooking, Cleaning, Slavery, Tranning, Medical care, Tattos and many more

This game may be old but still the best for Hardcore Gamer

Jack-O-Nine-Tails is best slaver/trainer game I tried so far.
You play as slaver in dystopian mythical city and your goal is to become renowned slaver and eventually patrician of the city. Game is focused around training girls into quality slaves, and in this part, no game I tried isn't nearly as good. Training is divided in general and sexual skills. You reward & punish as requared, and so on.
Game is rich in content, atmosphere is very dark & excellent, and if pictures are not to your liking (I am not fan of anime, and there is no other style as far as I know), you can change them (there are several packs to download, or you can change them yourself). Game is also very moddable. Writing is excellent, and there are pictures for every situation.
I played 1.7.5 version, although there is 1.7.6 version (they increased grinding, and I hate grinding).
I highly recommend this game to anyone who can endure truly dark atmosphere (cannibalism, dehumanization, slavery...), for as far as adult games go, I think this is one of the best.

Need more games like this. I would personally love to play a reboot of this game with fully animated girls rather than watching images of different girls for the same slave. And if there is more to mail characters story that would be amazing too!

This is probably the best slave training game out there. It has a good story and background. Great visuals and game options. There is a difficult setting for new players. Overall, it is a great slave training game.