"OP didn't specify porn. I know that the term is exclusively used for porn outside of Japan, and I know we're on a porn forum. But I'm going to pretend that OP could have another meaning in mind because it gives me an excuse to vomit my politics into a public setting."
Cuntboy. As mentioned in 2 posts and quoted by me when I mentioned you. You should have gotten a notification when I did that.
No, futa has nothing to do with trans people beyond being incorrectly lumped with them in this site's tags.
Oh, I see, so your problem is 'politics'. I thought I was talking about history, as I understood it, and honestly in a pretty mild-mannered way, but here we are I guess. The reason transpeople come up is because stupid jerks on here tend to treat the whole concept of futa content, and transpeople, as being one and the same, which was part of what I specifically talked about, if you read my comment. People are legitimately ignorant enough to go around calling transpeople futas, so no, OP's intentions weren't obvious, actually. People do stuff like that on here all the time?
You're the one who quoted me to call me a dick for telling OP to ignore the political BS. Obviously you knew you were talking from a political position and felt attacked.Oh, I see, so your problem is 'politics'. I thought I was talking about history, as I understood it, and honestly in a pretty mild-mannered way, but here we are I guess. The reason transpeople come up is because stupid jerks on here tend to treat the whole concept of futa content, and transpeople, as being one and the same, which was part of what I specifically talked about, if you read my comment. People are legitimately ignorant enough to go around calling transpeople futas, so no, OP's intentions weren't obvious, actually. People do stuff like that on here all the time?
Like... we agree, is the annoying thing, but you're acting like we don't? Transpeople and futanari have nothing to do with one another in the modern age as you say, but I was saying that 'futanari' as a concept were likely once related to japanese folk beliefs about what we now call transpeople. And also intersex people. Because historically, people didn't conceptualize sex and gender the same way we do, and the meaning of futanari had as much to do with androgyny as it did with what we call 'intersex' people now. Real shocking, controversial politics in this thread
Did you think I was trying to... somehow gang up on OP with that other guy because you saw something you classified as 'icky politics', and thus you need to jump in to save them?
You're the one who burst into a completely normal discussion to label anything you disagree with as 'political', which is mostly just the move of somone whose political position is threatened by people having normal conversations about history. Kinda typical, really. I called you a dick because anyone with eyes could see you being passive aggressive - you're not very subtle about it - and it was annoying to me. Super simple.
Ha. No. I cut into a chaotic discussion full of misinformation and parsed it down to just the information relevant to the OP's question. That you were personally offended when I told OP they could ignore the political stuff proves your intentions clear as day. There's no conversation to be had because you don't want one. You want a soap box from which you can shout at everyone else about your beliefs. I'm neither obligated to give you one nor obligated to listen. The, highly inaccurate, history you want to talk about has nothing to do with what OP was looking for.
You have a preconceived notion of me and merely labelled things you disagree with as 'BS', which is pretty much the definition of not wanting a conversation. Basically, you keep trying to spin this as me being some kind of active political agent deliberately here to spread 'misinformation' as you put it. Look. I got the info I mentioned from a book called 'Male Colors', which is all about homosexual expression and gender expression in Japan's tokugawa period. The author pretty much makes the connection to 'two spirit' people for you. Early internet futa art in the 90s is also undeniably linked to western art about transgender people, so putting the 'is it politics' zombie debate aside, I'd say it was a fairly relevant and not especially controversial take.
Do better research next time. While futa can possibly apply to MtF when you twist it's effective meaning (what is frequent nowadays), there's just no way it can apply to FtM.
No, intersex is used for humans because hermaphrodites represents only ~10% of intersex peoples. It was invisibilizing the other ~90% and their problems, what wasn't fair.
Do as I say, not as I do...
Considering there are no, nor have there ever been, true hermaphrodites within the human species this seems highly unlikely. You got a source on that?
And what did I do to warrant being insulted? Oh right, I gave OP an accurate answer to their question while also letting them know they could ignore the political talk about trans people. Talk that was both unrelated to OP's search and riddled with inaccuracies and misinformation. Misinformation you repeat despite it already being corrected in this thread.
MtF means "male to female" and refers to biological males who identify as females. FtM is obviously the other way around. Neither has anything to do with intersexuality and are entirely about trans identity. Making this statement not only wrong but internally inconsistent. An impressive feat of stupidity to fit within only 3 sentences.
From my point of view, while still representing a small part of the population,
Well, among many others, why not
"Do as I say, not as I do" is an insult now ? Fuck, I was insulting myself since decades, and I didn't knew it...
Let's see: "While futa can possibly apply to MtF when you twist it's effective meaning (what is frequent nowadays)"
Oh. My. God ! You mean that I was right when I wrote, "and, of course, it anyway don't refer to transidentity, but to intersexuality", in the message you're answering to, and that you claim as spreading misinformation ?
I know that you'll not like it, and you'll feel insulted, but well it's nothing else that the truth:
Apparently you didn't read your own source. While the testes and ovaries both develop the external genitalia generally don't, or are malformed and useless. Meaning that those people do not have both sets of fully functioning reproductive organs and therefore are not really hermaphrodites. In this case "true" is used because both types of gonads develop which is incredibly rare, but it's a relative term to the other 95% of intersex cases where only one set occurs. It is not how most normal people would use the word "true" nor does it mean that those affected will grow up to be futas.
I'm referring to when Ophanim called me a dick immediately after my first post. Pull your head out of your ass, you've got too much shit in your eyes to see properly.
A website with "intersex" in the name, made well after "intersex" started being used in place of "hermaphrodite", propping up an article written by its staff, with several points concerned about fetishization of the term "hermaphrodite" and the gender identities of intersex people. Wonderful source. By the way, here's
i know what is FtM and MtF but i need a porn term an specific term to search to get my result.
OR just call man, women and gay.
Additional word of warning, American LGBT+ activists would be very insistent that in these cases there must be a space after "trans": trans man, trans woman, trans identity. Don't know if anyone's been cancelled for it yet, but they'd definitely call someone a bigot over it. Their reason is not very sound but that never stopped them. You even see some of them insist that's how it must be spelled in other languages, their basis is the relevant qualification that they only speak one language.
So I was right:
Talking out loud to yourself is a sign of early senile dementia.
The website of an association dedicated to intersex, where doctors, psychologists, psychiatrists, neurologists, and searchers share their thoughts and publications on the subject. Difficult to find a more reliable source, yes.
What you quote clearly not refute the existence of "true hermaphrodite". It explain, a second time, why the use of the word "hermaphrodite" isn't appropriate. Firstly because one (and only one) of its meaning is misleading, and secondly because it exclude from the sex classification all cases coming from the genotype.
Well, I'll stand with my friends LGBT+ on this, "fuck the American LGBT+ cancer".
