Neriel

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Of course it is possible, it is in fact very easy to do so since enemies are still weak, not to mention a high order means less inmates in a wave and weaker inmates overall.
The thing is, after that, you have to move on from that save since your build is screwed from boss rushing (stats all over the place), you cannot stay in that save for too long since enemy gonna kick your ass sooner.
That destroy the fun of the game where you are free to hunt for CG or play the minigames.
Boss Rush? I always reach Max Level per floor, before I do the Boss, so I don't really rush anything. Now sure, I have no idea, how the enemies are when you reach +100 Days but that isn't exactly the point of the game.
 

Yukihirou

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Boss Rush? I always reach Max Level per floor, before I do the Boss, so I don't really rush anything. Now sure, I have no idea, how the enemies are when you reach +100 Days but that isn't exactly the point of the game.
I know, that was bad wording.
The procedure is like this: you clear 1 or 2 or even 3 dudes blocking the floor you're clearing a day, save the boss for later when you have cleared out the way the days before. Repeat and rinse, very easy even on prisoner mode.

The thing is,
Now sure, I have no idea, how the enemies are when you reach +100 Days but that isn't exactly the point of the game.
Why even implementing enemy scaling if "that" is not the point of the game ?

and, as I said,
That destroy the fun of the game where you are free to hunt for CG or play the minigames.
This now simply become a time management game many people dread so much
 

Neriel

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I know, that was bad wording.
The procedure is like this: you clear 1 or 2 or even 3 dudes blocking the floor you're clearing a day, save the boss for later when you have cleared out the way the days before. Repeat and rinse, very easy even on prisoner mode.

The thing is,


Why even implementing enemy scaling if "that" is not the point of the game ?

and, as I said,


This now simply become a time management game many people dread so much
Well sure, you can make then the argument, is enemy scaling still needed, I'll give you that but something needs to be there, so the player moves forward. Or else you can just farm money and edicts and that just seems wrong to me.
 

Christo_Reese

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Its probably going to change depending on if you go pure or slut route. It was a similar thing in Melty's Quest, with multiple endings. The only question will be which is the canon ending.

Out of curiosity, was that from the gift you got when you beat floor 1 or 2? I know I never got a message like that, so either it was not added yet, or my slut level was surprisingly too low when I beat those floors.
It's after you read the letter from emperor by subjugating level 1 (untitled1 to untitled1-3) and level 2 (untitled2 to untitled2-4), while the last one is from subjugating level 3 (untitled3 to untitled3-5), just before the demo being done. The save file I used has 200 slut level.
 

Yukihirou

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Well sure, you can make then the argument, is enemy scaling still needed, I'll give you that but something needs to be there, so the player moves forward. Or else you can just farm money and edicts and that just seems wrong to me.
As I said, be on my shoes, when enemies max level 81, one single Royal type inmates appear and you don't run away, the next minute you're dead.
You can't just farm for money and edics without taking risks.

P/S: I'm somehow a bit vocal about this, sorry, let the author decide, i'll wait and see.
 

Iexist

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I know, that was bad wording.
The procedure is like this: you clear 1 or 2 or even 3 dudes blocking the floor you're clearing a day, save the boss for later when you have cleared out the way the days before. Repeat and rinse, very easy even on prisoner mode.

The thing is,


Why even implementing enemy scaling if "that" is not the point of the game ?

and, as I said,


This now simply become a time management game many people dread so much
Alright, so, first of all, the whole "Control Loss if Level 1 and 2" are in Anarchy is, as far as everyone can tell, an overreaction Rem had to someone posting a Screenshot where they had Order 1, Control 0, and were on Day 270, and had NOT left the Office ONCE and were just sitting there for days farming cash and building up the Training Edicts etc. And this was on Prisoner Mode.

What was NOT as obvious was that the only way for that kind of bullshit to be achievable was through farming SEVERAL overly specific titles, some of which can be tricky to get even on Secretary Mode if you don't know what you're doing.

So Rem threw in 7/14/30 as values for Prisoner/Warden/Secretary, and called it a day I guess. These values have NOT been play-tested, and discussions seem to be ongoing over them and how they work.

Additionally, it's still unknown if this will apply to ALL the levels, or just 1&2, both of which contain features that are essential for how the Prison works at all, and which, in the game context, would need to be re-established asap. Right now, it's unknown if any time limits will be applied to level 3+ or not.

On the other hand... I'm not sure if there will be any good news for Prisoner Mode. It's honestly looking like success there will be impossible without some measure of title farming. At least, full, non-slutty success. Odds are that going for the full slut method even on the 1st Run as Prisoner will work... at least as long as you understand what the hell you're doing there and don't make any mistakes at all.
 

Yukihirou

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Alright, so, first of all, the whole "Control Loss if Level 1 and 2" are in Anarchy is, as far as everyone can tell, an overreaction Rem had to someone posting a Screenshot where they had Order 1, Control 0, and were on Day 270, and had NOT left the Office ONCE and were just sitting there for days farming cash and building up the Training Edicts etc. And this was on Prisoner Mode.

What was NOT as obvious was that the only way for that kind of bullshit to be achievable was through farming SEVERAL overly specific titles, some of which can be tricky to get even on Secretary Mode if you don't know what you're doing.
Interesting, Rem's overreaction aside, i'm kinda interested in how all this works

On level 1, without resorting to badend titles farming, you can lower the control to -4 thank to edicts, another 1 thank to Beautiful Warden. That lower it to -3. Since you can only equip one title, that still does not justify how he managed to archieve 0 control unless :

He archieved it without cheating thank to version jumping glitch. As of now, if you create a save file in v5q2 and immediately transfer it t v6, you get -6 order instead of -9, with edicts, it lowers to -1, with beautiful warden, 0.

Unless there's some new powerful titles I haven't heard about.

If the situation is truly as I laid out above then Rem overreaction is truly BS since he is the author of the game, he should have known it is not possible to do so and that the person in question is either cheating or exploiting a bug.
 
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Xill

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It must be confusing for Rem if people are asking advice on moded playthroughs, if thats happening.
 

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New titles and passives in v.6l (compared to v.5q)
(I only list the ones currently obtainable without cheating)

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NOTE: "Having sex" is just the general term referring to sexual relations with an enemy. This includes every sex pose. Giving a hj or bj counts as "having sex" in this context. I'm just too lazy to write "engage in sexual relation with at least.." every time ;)
 
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mamaboiii

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It must be confusing for Rem if people are asking advice on moded playthroughs, if thats happening.
It's literally cancer. I mean I get (to some degree) angry if someone asks for help without mentioning that he messed up his/her files. Now imagine someone actually getting payed for the support and wasting time chasing ghosts. Debugging is hard enough, even if both sides have the same code base.
That reminds me, I should probably add something more specific regarding this to my tweak collection :LUL:
 
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v6l
  • Karryn now acts first for the first turn in a normal battle
  • Changed Control to not decrease as fast during Anarchy
  • Lowered the hit to Order when a Level riots overnight
  • Added more battle dialogue for when thug type enemies internally ejaculating during anal sex
  • Fixed a bug with using the anal sex skill during the Level 2 Defeated scene while there is a slime present
  • Minor typo fixes
 

Yukihirou

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Radio Free Fort Ganon is not that difficult to get, and gives you +2 control (equipped the whole day)
You can only equip one title, and I wrote "without relying on badend titles farming".
Even if you equip said title, you still would not archieve 0 control. Only by using the glitch I detailed in my post will you ever get that sweet 0 Control. (Or simply cheating)
I swear Rem should get some rest, he's having imsomnia...

v6l
  • Karryn now acts first for the first turn in a normal battle
  • Changed Control to not decrease as fast during Anarchy
  • Lowered the hit to Order when a Level riots overnight
  • Added more battle dialogue for when thug type enemies internally ejaculating during anal sex
  • Fixed a bug with using the anal sex skill during the Level 2 Defeated scene while there is a slime present
  • Minor typo fixes
Mega
Holy s... Control still decrease during Anarchy ? I see that Rem's decision is final.

Time to truly head out...
 
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Rakasob

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You can only equip one title, and I wrote "without relying on badend titles farming".
Even if you equip said title, you still would not archieve 0 control. Only by using the glitch I detailed in my post will you ever get that sweet 0 Control. (Or simply cheating)
I swear Rem should get some rest, he's having imsomnia...



Holy s... Control still decrease during Anarchy ? I see that Rem's decision is final.

Time to truly head out...
Bro, you're getting burned out on an Alpha stage game where everything could change at any version. How about you read some erotic books and come back after 1 or 2 years when this game is done and has expansions in the making.
 
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