drchainchair2

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The two slash (//) means comment.
So if you got the correct code, it means PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_TWO and PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_THREE_ID are not obtainable
Those lines are commented out by Rem to prevent players from obtaining empty and unimplemented passives. There is no point to trying to get them.
 

Oscarsz

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I'm trying to get the hardcore sadistic title and been grinding (meaning i've been beating the shit out of the prisoners until i reach climax) and yet I think I only have one passive related. I looked into the code (first time I did something like that) and found this lines:

if(!this.hasPassive(PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_ONE_ID) && this._recordOrgasmFromSadismCount >= 1) {
this.learnNewPassive(PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_ONE_ID)
}
if(!this.hasPassive(PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_TWO_ID) && this._recordOrgasmFromSadismCount >= 8) {
//this.learnNewPassive(PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_TWO_ID)
}
if(!this.hasPassive(PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_THREE_ID) && this._recordOrgasmFromSadismCount >= 20) {
//this.learnNewPassive(PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_THREE_ID)
}

Can any kind soul explain that to me or point me in the right direction to search enlightment (preferably both)? From what I can grasp if you have 1, 8 or 20 sadistic related orgasms you should gain a passive.
im trying to do the same, there is no way to do it in the current build, right? the most sadism i can reach is 7 or 8, no way to get 13
 

unspecialkay

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The two slash (//) means comment.
So if you got the correct code, it means PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_TWO and PASSIVE_SADISM_ORGASM_THREE_ID are not obtainable
Those lines are commented out by Rem to prevent players from obtaining empty and unimplemented passives. There is no point to trying to get them.
Thanks for the feedback.

im trying to do the same, there is no way to do it in the current build, right? the most sadism i can reach is 7 or 8, no way to get 13
I have 6 but did not went for the feet, handjob, vaginal and anal yet (I sure that the new higher level passives increase sadism, not so sure about the oral). So its possible to have at least 10 (that on the secretary mode). With the passives from the prisoner mode if there is at least one more that i'm not aware it might be possible.

Btw there are 3 new titles: "like a bird", "like a dancer" and "like a feather" all related to evasion (sugest a high agility run). The higher of those grants "Cautious stance" ability.
 

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im trying to do the same, there is no way to do it in the current build, right? the most sadism i can reach is 7 or 8, no way to get 13
And what qualifies as sadistic or masochistic orgasm if you don't mind me asking? These BDSM concepts in games are often quite removed from the widely accepted understanding. Like handjobs for example, which are considered 'sadistic'. I don't think any man considers fapping a form of self-inflicted torture.
 

Oscarsz

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And what qualifies as sadistic or masochistic orgasm if you don't mind me asking? These BDSM concepts in games are often quite removed from the widely accepted understanding. Like handjobs for example, which are considered 'sadistic'. I don't think any man considers fapping a form of self-inflicted torture.
sadistic things ive found:
beating inmates > get taunt > get flaunt
beat horny inmate > get balls kick
foot jobs
not allowing them to cum on karryn
sadistic orgasm, by beating a inmate or something

dunno if theres something else, handjobs dont count as sadistic i think
 

Neriel

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And what qualifies as sadistic or masochistic orgasm if you don't mind me asking? These BDSM concepts in games are often quite removed from the widely accepted understanding. Like handjobs for example, which are considered 'sadistic'. I don't think any man considers fapping a form of self-inflicted torture.
Sadistic Orgasm = Do a physical Attack that gets you to 100% pleasure.
Masochistic Orgasm = Get attacked by a physical Attack that gets you to 100% pleasure.
 

madchef

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Sadistic Orgasm = Do a physical Attack that gets you to 100% pleasure.
Masochistic Orgasm = Get attacked by a physical Attack that gets you to 100% pleasure.
So both these 'paraphilias' are combat-related?
 

Neriel

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So both these 'paraphilias' are combat-related?
Well I think you can get them in some other ways. As an example I think Butt Slap counts as an "physical attack". But not sure, never really experimented much with Masochism for a while. And Sadism well you will tend to get a few Orgasms via Battles in a Fighter Build.
 

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Is there a way to make only males show up for the reception job?

Also, what are the requirements to make Karryn fall and initiate the sex scene during the waitress job? Is it just a matter of how drunk she gets?
 

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Well I think you can get them in some other ways. As an example I think Butt Slap counts as an "physical attack". But not sure, never really experimented much with Masochism for a while. And Sadism well you will tend to get a few Orgasms via Battles in a Fighter Build.
I think that butt-slapping might be a separate fetish, judging by the way you're able to add starting bonuses to Karryn (either she secretly desires to have her her butt slapped or to be treated badly by vulgar men). Also, I am currently building up a Warden who is an all-things-butt-related addict and a pussy denying virgin as well. Everytime there is a thug, she assumes the position with her butt held high (meaning give up at butt desire 75+) to entice them to whup the living daylights out of her booty, which they usually do, with occasional kissing and boob rough-handling. Quite a submissive conduct, if not a handbook example of pure erotic masochism. She came while spanked numerous times, yet her masochist level did not budge. On the other hand, getting trapped in handjobs loops she did not initiate somehow increased her Sadism.

Based on my experience of playing other manga-style games with violent elements in them, I noticed that S/M dynamics are often misrepresented and defined simply as enjoyment of giving or receiving pain, any pain regardless of sexual context or lack thereof.
 

madchef

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Is there a way to make only males show up for the reception job?

Also, what are the requirements to make Karryn fall and initiate the sex scene during the waitress job? Is it just a matter of how drunk she gets?
Yeah, she needs to keep accepting drinks from patrons until she's so drunk she tumbles over a table. The longer shifts you work, the higher the chance she'll get wasted eventually.
 

azoth00

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im trying to do the same, there is no way to do it in the current build, right? the most sadism i can reach is 7 or 8, no way to get 13
sorry for my unfluent English but
I've reached to sadism 13 and got the title without using any cheat in v.7Af.
there's just 13 passives that gives you a sadism level and you can start with two sadism/masochism level in prison mode.
but you can't reach masochism 13 as there're only 9 masochistic passive.
 

Xill

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Sadistic Orgasm = Do a physical Attack that gets you to 100% pleasure.
Masochistic Orgasm = Get attacked by a physical Attack that gets you to 100% pleasure.
Do you basically need to have Karryn as a virgin and never lose a battle in order to achieve this? In all my playthroughs I've never gotten pleasure by being attacked.
 

Neriel

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Do you basically need to have Karryn as a virgin and never lose a battle in order to achieve this? In all my playthroughs I've never gotten pleasure by being attacked.
The easiest way, to recieve pleasure from Damage taken, is by taking the dormant Desire "7. The desire to be dominated by vulgar men" which you can only take in Prisoner Mode. While you won't get Pleasure every single attack right from the start, after a few battles some attacks will start to do pleasure damage. But after that, I don't know. My guess is, that you actually have to lose some battles, since that should get you some Masochistics Passives but as I said, haven't done a Masochistic run for a long time, since it doesn't appeal do me.
 
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I have a problem but I don't know if it's because of the new version or because I play prisoner mode now. My problem is that the enemies only use handjobs. Even tho i've unlocked the other sex skills and the pleasure/lust is high enough they only want those standing handjobs, which is kinda repetetive and boring since she can't use any other sex skill in that position. Even when a goblin is fucking Karryn, and two other prisoners use her boobs and mouth the moment the goblin is done they still only want handjobs.

So is that a general problem with prisoner mode or a problem with the new version?
 

Xill

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The easiest way, to recieve pleasure from Damage taken, is by taking the dormant Desire "7. The desire to be dominated by vulgar men" which you can only take in Prisoner Mode. While you won't get Pleasure every single attack right from the start, after a few battles some attacks will start to do pleasure damage. But after that, I don't know. My guess is, that you actually have to lose some battles, since that should get you some Masochistics Passives but as I said, haven't done a Masochistic run for a long time, since it doesn't appeal do me.
What about the one where Karryn gets pleasure from beating everyone up? Also, doesn't that lead to having high charm aswell? Where prisoners just cum by looking at her?
 

Neriel

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I have a problem but I don't know if it's because of the new version or because I play prisoner mode now. My problem is that the enemies only use handjobs. Even tho i've unlocked the other sex skills and the pleasure/lust is high enough they only want those standing handjobs, which is kinda repetetive and boring since she can't use any other sex skill in that position. Even when a goblin is fucking Karryn, and two other prisoners use her boobs and mouth the moment the goblin is done they still only want handjobs.

So is that a general problem with prisoner mode or a problem with the new version?
Well, the Prisoner Enemy Type has Handjob as a prefered Sex Position. Rarely they go for a Blowjob but most of the time Handjob. So you either a) get rid of them first if you don't want them to use Handjob or b) Initate a Sex Position onto them, before they have a chance for going for a Handjob.
 
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Neriel

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What about the one where Karryn gets pleasure from beating everyone up? Also, doesn't that lead to having high charm aswell? Where prisoners just cum by looking at her?
Well if you go for a Fighter Build, you will get Sadistic Passives anyway but yes, if you pick that one, you will sooner get pleasure by beating them up. For the Charm thing that kinda depends. As it is right now, as long as you are a virgin, you will end up with a lot of Charm anyway. But never did a pure Charm build, since it is way to grindy for me, so no clue if you can get to a everybody comes by just looking at her state.
 
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Xill

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Well if you go for a Fighter Build, you will get Sadistic Passives anyway but yes, if you pick that one, you will sooner get pleasure by beating them up. For the Charm thing that kinda depends. As it is right now, as long as you are a virgin, you will end up with a lot of Charm anyway. But never did a pure Charm build, since it is way to grindy for me, so no clue if you can get to a everybody comes by just looking at her state.
Well thanks either way. I'm gonna stick to slutty builds for now, especially since there's gonna be a strip job.

Can't deny there's a certain kind of uh, charm, to a fighter build where Karryn orgasms because shes beating everyone up tho.
 
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