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Is it possible to get prisoners to masturbate without stripping Karryn first? I'm trying to do a Charm build but they refuse to keep their hands off her clothes.
If they're horny enough, and your desires are too low for them to fuck you, they'll resort to masturbation even if you're fully clothed. It's easier once you get the Flaunt move; before that you have to either have high enough agility that they can't touch you, constantly fix your clothes, or accept being naked.
Generally only nerds, the guards outside your room, and randomly generated extra-horny enemies will masturbate near at the start of combat.
 
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I just assume everything I download is malware until I've run it through three different scanners.


If they're horny enough, and your desires are too low for them to fuck you, they'll resort to masturbation even if you're fully clothed. It's easier once you get the Flaunt move; before that you have to either have high enough agility that they can't touch you, constantly fix your clothes, or accept being naked.
Generally only nerds, the guards outside your room, and randomly generated extra-horny enemies will masturbate near at the start of combat.
Since I run a minimally slutty Karryn (lv 14 slut after clearing level 2), I haven't yet tried the Flaunt skill. I know it will inflict Horny debuff on enemies. Will afflicted enemies try to strip Karryn or masturbate first ?
With 100% strip resist and max cockiness, this could prove to be Absolute defense for me. But if they resort to masturbating then this is a no for me, it would drain my mind point like crazy...
 

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If Flaunt succeeds in getting them Horny, they will start doing whatever actions their enemy type is more likely to use to get pleasure fastest.

If your Karryn's charm is high enough, that will result in them masturbating and talking at her asap. Possibly even if it isn't. In general, Flaunt is the skill you want to use if you want to get to the smexy times faster, because it raises enemy desire like nothing else does. Combined with the Raise Desire edicts, it helps with the fuck-strategy attempt.

All in all, if you want to make use of the Confident buff, you're better off using Taunt for the combat approach. It's only really dangerous with Nerds, who can instantly knock down Karryn on the next turn, though not even then if you have a very high Agi build and run laps and dodges around them.
 
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Things that you find when I was about to ask when to expect 0.6
Every estimate from anyone on this forum about the release time is really just a guess. Until there's an official announcement of "We're in final testing before release" every this is honestly pure guessing.

It can be informed by things said in the news posts and previous update rates, but still just a guess.
 

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If Flaunt succeeds in getting them Horny, they will start doing whatever actions their enemy type is more likely to use to get pleasure fastest.

If your Karryn's charm is high enough, that will result in them masturbating and talking at her asap. Possibly even if it isn't. In general, Flaunt is the skill you want to use if you want to get to the smexy times faster, because it raises enemy desire like nothing else does. Combined with the Raise Desire edicts, it helps with the fuck-strategy attempt.

All in all, if you want to make use of the Confident buff, you're better off using Taunt for the combat approach. It's only really dangerous with Nerds, who can instantly knock down Karryn on the next turn, though not even then if you have a very high Agi build and run laps and dodges around them.
Yeah, definitely tasted the nerds rage myself, instant "ora ora" rain of punches without charging time like the thugs.

I have never seen the raise desire edicts before, does it not appear if you are not a slut ? Can you post me a picture of those edicts ?
 

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Yeah, definitely tasted the nerds rage myself, instant "ora ora" rain of punches without charging time like the thugs.

I have never seen the raise desire edicts before, does it not appear if you are not a slut ? Can you post me a picture of those edicts ?
I do not have a picture of these edicts but I can say for sure they are unlocked when Karryn gets progressively slutier. They will appear in the mind section (the section after her self training edicts). I wish I could tell you when exactly it unlocks but after she's sampled the prison enough and has increased her sluttiness the edicts are unlocked. I believe (but do not quote me) when her sluttiness is high enough.
 
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The two Edicts in question are granted by the "Ex-Secretary Gone Wild" passive, which, according to that doc we have linked in the 1st page, is granted after Karryn has 10 different sexual partners and maxes out all desires once. I assume that by sex partners, that means vaginal and/or anal, and not just blowjobs/handjobs/boobjobs/rimjobs.

I haven't tried experimenting to find out the exact details, as that would be a bit tedious.

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I'm wondering, can you go through levels by slutting your way through? Only played up 2 level where I keep getting downed at compulsory fight after balcony
 

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I'm wondering, can you go through levels by slutting your way through? Only played up 2 level where I keep getting downed at compulsory fight after balcony
If you can stomach enemies one shotting you left and right

Even with high charm, Thugs still take as much as 2,3 turns to get excited. Excited enemies still attack you from time to time even if you're naked.

However, with Energy build, you will practically never lose, you raise your energy level the fastest by losing.

Still, It takes a long time to win battle with this, so control can be a problem later down the line.
 

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In my experience, including messing with it in Prisoner mode, the most important stat for Super Slut mode is Endurance, with Mind and Charm taking somewhat equal spots after it.

The higher Karryn's endurance is, the longer it takes enemies to get her to cum even once, and the more time she has to make them cum instead. It also helps ensure that you have enough time to actually use the restore energy skill between orgasms. Beyond that, you need to max out her mouth desire a lot, so you can get the kiss skill asap. The kiss skill lets you compensate for lower charm levels until you can gather the money to buy more accessories that help.

Kiss does two things. First, it helps raise the desire of the prisoners, which helps get them to cum faster, and also gets them hard faster for other sex- skills. Second, it debuffs their attack, accuracy and evasion, which makes it much harder for them to down you before you can get them horny and take the offense to them. Additionally, you eventually get a passive that increases Karryn's Charm for every individual target she kisses in a battle, which means that in longer, multi-wave battles, she stacks up quite a bit of charm, and it adds up even more once you naturally build up the base.

You also don't need to get all of them horny right away, you just need one prisoner horny fast enough to initiate a sex-skill that gets her into sex-mode asap. Once that happens, prisoners can't attack you anymore, and you can use stamina for more sex-skills that get them to cum even faster on top of them naturally thrusting in or against her or whatever.

Top priority accessories for super-slut are the stamina boosting one, and the Endurance one. The mind one helps too, to restore her between orgasms.

You also want the first tier of the Release Desires Edicts as soon as you can reasonably get it.

The best title to use for this play-style is Golden Waitress, the one you get for reaching 30 Reputation at the bar (and yes, that takes a while...). It's super worth it though because it boosts your endurance by 10%, it stacks with training.

Once you really get the build going, you can go an entire fight with multiple opponents without even reaching 30% pleasure, while they all cum helplessly. And that's on prisoner mode.

Also, another thing to note is that defeating prisoners through pleasure gives more Order than beating them down. This is important, because it means you need less battles overall to get more order, and that leaves you more time to do stuff like the Bar Job.
 

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Kiss does two things. First, it helps raise the desire of the prisoners, which helps get them to cum faster, and also gets them hard faster for other sex- skills. Second, it debuffs their attack, accuracy and evasion, which makes it much harder for them to down you before you can get them horny and take the offense to them
Jesus, TIL Virgin Head Strike/Arm SLash/Leg Thrust < Chad Kiss debuff...
You also don't need to get all of them horny right away, you just need one prisoner horny fast enough to initiate a sex-skill that gets her into sex-mode asap. Once that happens, prisoners can't attack you anymore, and you can use stamina for more sex-skills that get them to cum even faster on top of them naturally thrusting in or against her or whatever.
Holy, On day 350 right now, Enemis's been hitting between 300 and 1200 stamina damage, Slut build totally would have turned the situation around for me. Too bad I run the opposite of a slut build. Coincidentally though, I trained in all those stats you mentioned, like precisely what you wrote : Endurance, Mind and Charm. If thing ever get tough enough, I know I can change my approach in a heartbeat which in itself is a relief for me in prisoner mode.
Also, another thing to note is that defeating prisoners through pleasure gives more Order than beating them down.
Defeating the toughest mofo group on level 2 nets me 6 ** and around 25 fatigues, exactly how much the slut approach would net me for the same group, Fatigue and ** ? (9 or 10 ** maybe ? If so then holy fuck...)
 
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but dont get your endurance too high though because the moment when karryn takes over 100 cocks but still hadnt cum also kinda meeh
 
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Jesus, TIL Virgin Head Strike/Arm SLash/Leg Thrust < Kiss debuff...
Yeah. The Kiss debuff, once you have all the passives for it, is ridiculously strong. Not to mention that it can't be dodged, unlike the other attacks, and it costs way less Stamina too. Once you have the two slut attack titles, it gets really unlikely that you won't be able to use it. Even in a partial combat build, or a sadist build, it's theoretically possible to use it to Karryn's advantage.

What's even more ridiculous is that it, and all the other sex skills available right now, have a synergy with the Confident Buff, which you can get using Flaunt, which you want to use anyway because of the chance of making an enemy horny. But it also boosts Dexterity, among all the other stats, and that boost makes Kiss and all the other sex skills give more pleasure, and also boosts the critical hit chance for them.

Getting a Thug 70% of the way to cum with a Critical Hit Kiss was the most ridiculous thing I've ever seen, and he wasn't a Virgin Thug either.

Defeating the toughest mofo group on level 2 nets me 6 ** and around 25 fatigues, exactly how much the slut approach would net me for the same group, Fatigue and ** ? (9 or 10 ** maybe ? If so then holy fuck...)
How much Order you get depends on the number of enemies, and the amount of Order you already have at the time. I'm not sure, but I think the amount of Control you have at the time also matters, but it's hard to say for sure with all the fluctuating factors involved. There's probably a formulate in there somewhere...

Either way, using the Classroom group, I can get 8 Order with something between 12-20 Fatigue, depending a bit on luck with what spawns in said group. An abundance of named enemies or traits like Furious that are harder to arouse can drag things on longer. Fatigue seems to have a formula that takes into account the length of the combat too. So if you can rush through the smut faster due to good sex skill management, then you get less of it by the end.

The really dubious thing is that right now, we're far from full efficiency on the Slut Build. We're lacking the Vaginal and Anal sex skills, which hurts a lot, and we're also lacking a lot of levels to the existing sex skills, which makes them a lot less effective than they should be after a while, even if you start investing into Dexterity training to boost their damage. Right now, the strongest of all Sex Skills is the Hand-Job, with Titjob being second to it on account of the passive that boosts its damage based on Karryn's Boobs desire. Blowjob doesn't have anything of that sort. Footjob and Rimjob just don't go that high.

All this means that a number of passives that could make the slut build even more efficient don't work, can't be acquired, or aren't that useful even if you can acquire them by mistake. Like the vaginal passive that gives Karryn energy when she gets cummed into her pussy, and persistent energy regen after that based on the amount of cum that she holds in her womb. I should not need to explain how crazy that's going to get once Vaginal Sex skills are added. There's a similar one involving stamina and anal sex, if I remember right...

but dont get your endurance too high though because the moment when karryn takes over 100 cocks but still hadnt cum also kinda meeh
That's kind of hard to achieve outside of Secretary Mode. Once the days pile up, the damage prisoners will do will start growing as well, especially on Prisoner Mode. Additionally, you're in a constant Race against Karryn's sensitivity values, which I'm not sure what cap they have, but I've seen some break into the 200% range. So even going to 90+ Endurance won't save you forever.

Not to mention that the release pleasure command and the right combination of accessories can help reduce her to a squirting fountain in no time if that's what you feel like doing. I've actually considered trying to see what combinations I could get to see if I can trigger double or multiple-orgasms, assuming they're implemented. I assume it requires Karryn hitting 200%+ pleasure somehow...
 
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