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dragonsix6969

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I would understand if they made a spinoff or for another character, for example, she likes to dominate enemies, or for example, on the contrary, she is very weak and when they defeat her, she gets animation and CG.
 

Jum421

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Hmm..for some reason I'm unabled to be stunned when hit or anything. I wonder if I have it turned off (is that even possible?) or something. Anyone else ever had that issue?
 

Jum421

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how do i get the shower sex scene?
You have to go where the friendly kobolds are staging (similar area where you're finding the clay pieces after you use the elevator) and go right. There will be a water path and you just follow that until you reach the main pipes.
 

QSharpe

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I suppose I should have swung by this thread again more often. After the first Domcaid build came out, Cookiedraggy's first response seemed like he had gotten the message that there was a lot of backlash against Domcaid. I guess instead he just wanted to do it anyway, and wasn't really intending to use the feedback. This really just divorces the sex from the rest of the game completely. I'm so disappointed.
 

limesseur

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So many complaints about the new mechanics of the game without any ideas of what patrons think, or even what the devs think or want to do. If the devs only make a game from what people say should be in it, the game won't get anywhere, and the devs will quickly lose interest. Of course if the devs only put in what they and only they wanted without input from supporters and people that try the game, then not as many people would care about the game.

More people seem to like the domcaid mechanics, the devs and supporters liked it when they released the domcaid build to test the waters with it, so they're adding it to the game. It's not a requirement that you have to fuck defeated enemies, it's there for people who do want to, and it can also serve as an alternative way of unlocking animations. Maybe it could eventually have some sort of benefit, like healing Kincaid a little instead of using energy, or giving a little more energy to her glove than just normally defeating an enemy, something to make it worthwhile at least. One thing it would benefit from alongside that would be pressing a button (maybe the attack button) to skip to the climax of the scene so you don't have to sit through the whole thing every time. And if it does get implemented, having different animations for dom vs sub/stunned/defeated would be beneficial too.

As for what it does to the game? It just adds something optional for those that do want it. It doesn't inherently take away from any pace the game has, and it doesn't make the sex feel like it's just something tacked onto the game for brownie points since sex was part of it from the start. It actually makes sense with the CG endings you get from different enemies where Kincaid basically submits to her desires to please whatever it is, or with how she's willing to have sex with the villagers, and how even when defeated or stunned into sex she's enjoying it, so having her and whatever she's having sex with taking part excitedly it's fair to add situations where Kincaid (aka the player) initiates the sex, as I don't recall the devs ever mentioning they wanted the sex to feel r*pey.

What does change the feel of the game is the new movement stuff. It makes the platforming and movement more complex than past players are used to, but it's not such a drastic change that it makes the game unplayable unless you're spending the whole time with one hand down your pants and one hand on the keyboard or controller which would make it a little hard to do some of the more complex movements.
 

Freezewood369

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well... sincerelly i love it,this thing of domcaid just add more sexy animations,without it we have less sexy animations so i don't care how is it,this is fine if cookiedraggy is going to be sacrifice to put more animations to the game with it.
 
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70inchdonger

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People out here fighting the most bitch maid of fights over h style but I'm just out here loving the game as both a well paced fun game with absolutely banger h and I don't even yiff. Sure the more deviant stuff is not really my thing and I don't like the stills and so on, but this shit is value. Finally, a true eroico successor. Don't worry about the haters cookiedraggy, just keep running in the w's. Consent is cool and so on. Can we also take a moment to talk about how banger the gallery is too? God I hope this finishes within the next 2 years.
 

greeneyed

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Whichever side you think is more prevalent depends on whether you are watching this site or discord. Of course discord will be more accepting of the change, that's because it's full of supporters; they're still supporting the game because they like the direction the game is going. Criticizing a game in its own discord is like opening fire in enemy territory. Not to mention the 5 or 6 regulars that will quickly drown out any real discussion with half-related banter and prospects of future content. Ironically, this site, where people typically go to bash developers without filter, feels much more welcoming to genuine criticism.

The change certainly does take away from the pace of the game, if you have the same preference as I and others do. I realize, however, that my viewpoint is hard to understand without having this preference, so I'll try my best to explain it.

My particular sexual preference essentially boils down to "the element of surprise." The "surprise" part of surprise sex basically acts as a multiplier to my dopamine levels when viewing porn.

The advantage that porn games have over other forms of pornography is player-interaction. Defeat sex mechanics make it so that the activation for the porn is human error (getting hit/grappled by an enemy). Human error is extremely unpredictable, so it works pretty well as a surprise element to the porn.

The change being made to the game shifts all sex to being completely player-initiated. So, this effectively removes all surprise from the porn, unarguably a less interesting experience for someone like me.

Also, mentioning the effects on gameplay will only convince people who already agree. Ultimately, your view on how the change affects the flow of gameplay is dependent on your preference. I will disagree with anyone who argues that the flow is better because I have played the game, and I know how I feel about the gameplay. I cannot be convinced otherwise because the counterargument consists of a viewpoint that I simply do not feel.

I understand that the devs themselves favor the change, so it would take a vast majority pushback to sway their decision; a pushback which clearly isn't there. My goal isn't to convince the developers at this point, it's to defend the validity of my perspective. There's no real reason to argue at this point, I just want it to be known that there are people who won't enjoy the change, and that their perspective is justified. Personal opinion on this change is completely subjective based on preference. I'm tired of people trying to make it objective based on gameplay as if there is one true, nonnegotiable answer.
Wow a well-thought out and legitimate answer. Props man, glad there are some people keeping F95zone spirit alive.
 

frid

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Whichever side you think is more prevalent depends on whether you are watching this site or discord. Of course discord will be more accepting of the change, that's because it's full of supporters; they're still supporting the game because they like the direction the game is going. Criticizing a game in its own discord is like opening fire in enemy territory. Not to mention the 5 or 6 regulars that will quickly drown out any real discussion with half-related banter and prospects of future content. Ironically, this site, where people typically go to bash developers without filter, feels much more welcoming to genuine criticism.

The change certainly does take away from the pace of the game, if you have the same preference as I and others do. I realize, however, that my viewpoint is hard to understand without having this preference, so I'll try my best to explain it.

My particular sexual preference essentially boils down to "the element of surprise." The "surprise" part of surprise sex basically acts as a multiplier to my dopamine levels when viewing porn.

The advantage that porn games have over other forms of pornography is player-interaction. Defeat sex mechanics make it so that the activation for the porn is human error (getting hit/grappled by an enemy). Human error is extremely unpredictable, so it works pretty well as a surprise element to the porn.

The change being made to the game shifts all sex to being completely player-initiated. So, this effectively removes all surprise from the porn, unarguably a less interesting experience for someone like me.

Also, mentioning the effects on gameplay will only convince people who already agree. Ultimately, your view on how the change affects the flow of gameplay is dependent on your preference. I will disagree with anyone who argues that the flow is better because I have played the game, and I know how I feel about the gameplay. I cannot be convinced otherwise because the counterargument consists of a viewpoint that I simply do not feel.

I understand that the devs themselves favor the change, so it would take a vast majority pushback to sway their decision; a pushback which clearly isn't there. My goal isn't to convince the developers at this point, it's to defend the validity of my perspective. There's no real reason to argue at this point, I just want it to be known that there are people who won't enjoy the change, and that their perspective is justified. Personal opinion on this change is completely subjective based on preference. I'm tired of people trying to make it objective based on gameplay as if there is one true, nonnegotiable answer.
I really like this answer, and gotta say, I share your opinion. Tested the new update today, without reading the patch notes because I dont want to spoil anything. When I got hit a couple of times and nothing happened I thought "okay, something is wrong" and then saw the "interact" thing, my reaction was meeeeh. But yeah, if the devs and the supporters like this change, what can we do? It's just not the thing for a lot of us, I like my games where the enemies grab you or knock you down (like Haileys treasure adventure, Eroico or Alien quest: Eve). Lets wait and see what happens in the next patch, maybe they'll add both, or not
 
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Silverraaven

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Ehh, I guess I get it. Patreon hates rape stuff. But I feel like it vastly alters designs for some of the enemies. The slime for instance is supposed to surprise you and you have to struggle out. Guess I'll try this build out see what I think.
 

limesseur

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Whichever side you think is more prevalent depends on whether you are watching this site or discord. Of course discord will be more accepting of the change, that's because it's full of supporters; they're still supporting the game because they like the direction the game is going. Criticizing a game in its own discord is like opening fire in enemy territory. Not to mention the 5 or 6 regulars that will quickly drown out any real discussion with half-related banter and prospects of future content. Ironically, this site, where people typically go to bash developers without filter, feels much more welcoming to genuine criticism.

The change certainly does take away from the pace of the game, if you have the same preference as I and others do. I realize, however, that my viewpoint is hard to understand without having this preference, so I'll try my best to explain it.

My particular sexual preference essentially boils down to "the element of surprise." The "surprise" part of surprise sex basically acts as a multiplier to my dopamine levels when viewing porn.

The advantage that porn games have over other forms of pornography is player-interaction. Defeat sex mechanics make it so that the activation for the porn is human error (getting hit/grappled by an enemy). Human error is extremely unpredictable, so it works pretty well as a surprise element to the porn.

The change being made to the game shifts all sex to being completely player-initiated. So, this effectively removes all surprise from the porn, unarguably a less interesting experience for someone like me.

Also, mentioning the effects on gameplay will only convince people who already agree. Ultimately, your view on how the change affects the flow of gameplay is dependent on your preference. I will disagree with anyone who argues that the flow is better because I have played the game, and I know how I feel about the gameplay. I cannot be convinced otherwise because the counterargument consists of a viewpoint that I simply do not feel.

I understand that the devs themselves favor the change, so it would take a vast majority pushback to sway their decision; a pushback which clearly isn't there. My goal isn't to convince the developers at this point, it's to defend the validity of my perspective. There's no real reason to argue at this point, I just want it to be known that there are people who won't enjoy the change, and that their perspective is justified. Personal opinion on this change is completely subjective based on preference. I'm tired of people trying to make it objective based on gameplay as if there is one true, nonnegotiable answer.
I'll agree on the point that making ALL the sex in the game player-initiated isn't quite where the game should go, and I didn't know that the sex was only player-initiated with enemies in the recent build.

However, I did mention things that could make it alongside a grapple/stun/defeat system work, as an optional part for those that want it, with different animations to separate domcaid sex from the other and maybe reasons to use it, ways to make it less pace-changing like adding a skip button, maybe it could be an alternative way of healing than using energy, stuff like that to "make is worthwhile at least".

If the part at the end about you being tired of personal opinion is directed at me, I did not make my original post with my own opinion, I offered suggestions to what would make the domcaid stuff worthwhile as another option other than grapples and such. And as for the new movement stuff I mentioned, I did not say that the changes were different to what I was used to but to what past and other players of it might be used to, adding that some of the movement can be hard if one hand is down your pants while playing, as this is a platformer with sex in it with several controls.

Maybe I'm being defensive since I was the one replied to instead of the people I was making my post about, feeling like I'm being told that what I said is invalid because of someone's preferences in sex, but I felt I had to make this reply because of mentions at the start of why possibly I said what I did being because I was looking at critiques from one side or another when I wasn't, and the ending addition about being tired of people making something objective based on gameplay. And in return, I do not mean for this to be an angry or aggressive response, but rather pointing out where it feels like what I said is being invalidated.
 

QSharpe

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Something I really don't understand is how the developers keep insisting that "we can't have it both ways" when they clearly already have done that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a professional software engineer, but I know how to program in a few languages and I've made stuff in gamemaker(same engine this game uses). It's not hard to have both player initiated and surprise sex mechanics, especially since they've already done it. The creators have created pouncing enemies, dashing enemies, projectile throwing enemies etc. all of which can initiate sex without a problem. I don't understand how they are unable to keep doing the same system with future enemies, and they haven't explained what this problem is supposed to be.
 

smithsmithsmith

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Something I really don't understand is how the developers keep insisting that "we can't have it both ways" when they clearly already have done that. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a professional software engineer, but I know how to program in a few languages and I've made stuff in gamemaker(same engine this game uses). It's not hard to have both player initiated and surprise sex mechanics, especially since they've already done it. The creators have created pouncing enemies, dashing enemies, projectile throwing enemies etc. all of which can initiate sex without a problem. I don't understand how they are unable to keep doing the same system with future enemies, and they haven't explained what this problem is supposed to be.
I think it's more because it would increase the workload. We're half way through year 3 of development afterall and still not quite done with the first of three (?) proposed areas.
 
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