Others Kings Fall [v0.2.7.5c] [Bastard Games]

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Periah250

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those areas where never supposed to be used early on. the problem is that Haseo, at that time, didnt understand fully the game. to fix this we added potions that will pacify monsters so u could enter those area for the story. what u need to do is avoid those until u have those potions. never enter a map if you are not strong enough. we added "taxi" if u need to get past that area. use that.
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fixing that should probably be looked into, its frustrating, ill buy like 100 of those potions and use that. but i meant i cant become an archer without the sheep. but yea pacification seems like the way to go then, thank you.

im not just crapping on the game i love the story and mechanics and from glancing at the map the game looks down right massive. h scenes are delightful and the humor has made me laugh on several accounts. i also like the unique artstyle!

but the gameplay seems shakey in some areas, like areas where all the enemies instantly tag team you. greatly annoying! loving the the game all things considered.
 
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yeah. theres nothing we can do about it.
the game should be played with an "open-world" mode, so that u can go anywhere, but Haseo decided to make it area by area, so u are stuck in henesys until u can enter the next area. I think Henesys is the worse area in that aspect, more area that open up better it get. sheep are terrifying until they are not. so its all about your character level and power.
but if u avoid those area and levelup from area u can own, eventually u can enter those area and kill everything. the same is the golem area and boss area. u are supposed to be level50+
so, do side-quests (u have that guy in henesys that gives u missions to do) he will help u levelup.

but, another thing is that in Henesys u learn (that hard way) that the player is not invincible, he can die and easy. it will give the player the feeling, damn, theres tough monsters and its scary. even if frustrating its also challenging. the problem is if we added "quests" that u need to do and require u to enter those areas. but at least u have the potion so u can do them and leave.
 
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Periah250

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ok i just brute forced it by downing white potions like a made man and pacification potions. died like 20 times but i got my sheep mission done. hopefully i never have to do something like that again. can we not petition haseo to change henesys up alittle to not be the worst part of the game?

also to the mission guy thats awesome until he gives you a mission you cant do like fight sheep XD
 
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also i was surprised mai wasnt a sugar baby, one of them at least she seems to be somewhat of the face of kings fall
 
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Periah250 said:
ok i just brute forced it by downing white potions like a made man and pacification potions. died like 20 times but i got my sheep mission done. hopefully i never have to do something like that again. can we not petition haseo to change henesys up alittle to not be the worst part of the game?

also to the mission guy thats awesome until he gives you a mission you cant do like fight sheep XD
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do you talk about white sheep or the black ones?)
 
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in kings fall u dont have jobs. this because Haseo decided to create a new job.
so what we have is instead a new-job, darkness route that is not really any of the 5 jobs.
to "fix this", later we offer job-books, so u can at least use any of the 5 jobs equipment, and later on the 2nd skill that grants u stats. in a sense its kind of a dual-job system darkness+any of the 5. in season 2, there will be skills where u can use the weapon of the job as well.
so, the darkness build is both good and bad. the good is that its unique, u dont find it in maplestory. the bad is that its not compatible with the 5 jobs.
so, yeah, in a sense its just STR+INT (darkness route) but in 3rd tier we will have job-attack-skills, it could change.
but we have ability-points reset so theres no problem if u want to change later on.
the stats build should be: STR=as high the weapon require INT=everything else.
but at the beginning of the game u can focus on STR only until u get your first darkness-attack-skill. do not put points in the first skill u get, its useless until u have use canes/cannons.
 
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Periah250

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wait so whats the protocol here? i got a great bow out of the gacha but i couldnt use it and sold it for tons of cash. but from what i hear dex and luk are useless and jobs dont work? so i cant be an archer or a thief?
 
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in season 1:
- u can choose a job-book, that will allow u to equip that job equipment/weapons
- tier 2 will give u another skill that is based on the first job u took, this will increase stats to work with that "job" equip/weapons

and thats it. so, if theres nothing more, the best job is mage, since it gives u +INT that u can benefit from. but warrior can also be good, since it gives u +STR (u can reset and remove all STR points, since u get it now from the skill) and +DEX that gives u melee-accuracy (that is good when u are not using magic attack-skills)

in season 2:
- tier 3, will now give u a job-attack-skill. that will be based on job-stats (+) bonus darkness.
that means, even if you play thief and your INT is "lower" compared to a mage (since they get +INT from skills) it will even out by the skill formula as it will take account to that. (in the end, LUK 180 + 20 INT should be as powerful as LUK 20 + 180 INT)
I will try to make it as balanced as possible. so it will not handicap u choosing a non-mage job.
but for season 1 its like that.

also, a job that is "harder" to play, will of course give u a reward later in the game.
so in tier 4 (last skills) should boost those job in favor as well. I mean, why struggle up to level 100+ with a job that is weaker if at tier 3/4 it will not give u any good skills?
 
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Periah250

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so are job books and tiers for later? im current returned from domain and i still only have the warrior thing that decreases my strength which seems like nothing but a negative. still have no job or whatever.
 
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Periah250 said:
fixing that should probably be looked into, its frustrating, ill buy like 100 of those potions and use that. but i meant i cant become an archer without the sheep. but yea pacification seems like the way to go then, thank you.

im not just crapping on the game i love the story and mechanics and from glancing at the map the game looks down right massive. h scenes are delightful and the humor has made me laugh on several accounts. i also like the unique artstyle!

but the gameplay seems shakey in some areas, like areas where all the enemies instantly tag team you. greatly annoying! loving the the game all things considered.
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This is actually my next big project for the game. I'm opening up a seperate island so that the early game has way more chances for EXP, Rewards, etc. If you grow tired of Henesys, there will be a new area to help power you up so you can return to Henesys with confidence.

Periah250 said:
so are job books and tiers for later? im current returned from domain and i still only have the warrior thing that decreases my strength which seems like nothing but a negative. still have no job or whatever.
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Yeah. The first book is unlocked after the Henesys Chapter ends by speaking with Raul in the Domain. 2nd will unlock after you get back from Perion.
 
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Periah250

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HaseoOfDeath said:
This is actually my next big project for the game. I'm opening up a seperate island so that the early game has way more chances for EXP, Rewards, etc. If you grow tired of Henesys, there will be a new area to help power you up so you can return to Henesys with confidence.



Yeah. The first book is unlocked after the Henesys Chapter ends by speaking with Raul in the Domain. 2nd will unlock after you get back from Perion.
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so what im gathering is i shouldnt have sold that fucking bow XD. god damn it, oh well i still have a good crossbow.
 
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in season 1:
- u can choose a job-book, that will allow u to equip that job equipment/weapons
- tier 2 will give u another skill that is based on the first job u took, this will increase stats to work with that "job" equip/weapons

and thats it. so, if theres nothing more, the best job is mage, since it gives u +INT that u can benefit from. but warrior can also be good, since it gives u +STR (u can reset and remove all STR points, since u get it now from the skill) and +DEX that gives u melee-accuracy (that is good when u are not using magic attack-skills)

in season 2:
- tier 3, will now give u a job-attack-skill. that will be based on job-stats (+) bonus darkness.
that means, even if you play thief and your INT is "lower" compared to a mage (since they get +INT from skills) it will even out by the skill formula as it will take account to that. (in the end, LUK 180 + 20 INT should be as powerful as LUK 20 + 180 INT)
I will try to make it as balanced as possible. so it will not handicap u choosing a non-mage job.
but for season 1 its like that.

also, a job that is "harder" to play, will of course give u a reward later in the game.
so in tier 4 (last skills) should boost those job in favor as well. I mean, why struggle up to level 100+ with a job that is weaker if at tier 3/4 it will not give u any good skills?
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May i please get the patron box and the forbidden card codes??
 
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next update it will be integrated with maple.exe
I did a scan yesterday and it should be better now.
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this explain how bad AV works. they do lots of false-positive.
for now, u will need to deal with it, or wait until next update.
 
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