Others Kings Fall [v0.2.7.5c] [Bastard Games]
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this is the right now.
the reason of the confusion is because Im working with a lot of stuff right now, changing the sound-engine completely and all kind of things so I have many .exe and not sure what is what. but this seems to be the .exe I shared with that picture-fix.
the reason of the confusion is because Im working with a lot of stuff right now, changing the sound-engine completely and all kind of things so I have many .exe and not sure what is what. but this seems to be the .exe I shared with that picture-fix.
So.... I want to to like this game, seems like it has a fair bit going for it, but I've never been more frustrated trying to play a game in the first 5m then I have here. I don't even understand what is happening here. So, some quick questions....
There is more.. but I've only been on this for 5 min and this is my list of complaints already. Again, sorry if I'm being harsh here, I do want to like this game; seems like it has a lot of content if nothing else... but jesus... portals not showing up and attacks just not working is just too much
So someone please explain to me if I'm doing something wrong here, or if everyone that likes this game just has the patience of a saint?
- Am I just a disembodied soul floating around the world? Why? Nothing in the initial story explain even tried to explain this?
- Why can I only control the camera?
- Why is the camera/MC's disembodies soul, the only thing I can control, so fucking ridiculously slow? It's like 1/5th(?) of what it feels like it should naturally be... and it makes me want to destroy my PC and never play another game again.
- Does the author of this work have a personal grudge against people with free time?
- Why do mobs randomly just stop taking damage when I click on them?
- Is there a cooldown on my 'attacks'? It doesn't seem that ways, just like the game forgot it was supposed to be doing damage to something when I click it...
- Author-kun, IDK what you're trying to do with this... umm... 'feature', but if it is a 'feature', there needs to be some form of feedback to the players explaining what they're doing wrong and why things aren't working as they seeming should...
- Game tells me I need to kill stuff to make the number go down, then go right to find the portal... but even when that's done the portal just doesn't show up. Why?
- Yeah, I just have to sit around in that spot for a while until the mood strikes the game to allow me to see the next zone? Is this by design?
- Why does my status clearly say "JOB : Beginner", when the tutorial screen tells me I'm some sorta vampire/emo/'I'm one with the darkness'-class... uhh, these don't match.
- Why does my game window randomly get a purple boarder, stopping me from both moving and attacking until it goes away?
There is more.. but I've only been on this for 5 min and this is my list of complaints already. Again, sorry if I'm being harsh here, I do want to like this game; seems like it has a lot of content if nothing else... but jesus... portals not showing up and attacks just not working is just too much
So someone please explain to me if I'm doing something wrong here, or if everyone that likes this game just has the patience of a saint?
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this information u get when u start the game.
its a clicker/idle game. those kind of games is about clicking on monsters to do damage.
u can attack a monster and monsters can attack you. theres cooldowns. but should not take much time to be able to click again.
if u use an external autoclicker, the game will react. u get a purple border telling u are "hammering" the game.
the portals will not show if u are clicking. u need to wait a few seconds for the portal to show. this mechanism is kind of like a RPG game where u need to use a dice to escape. this means, u can not perform any action if u plan to go away. but u can still use the worldmap, that u can use immediately. the same with scrolls and other teleportation means.
each "main" maps require u to survive the time. after that the map is unlocked and u can use worldmap.
u start as "beginner" because u have not taken any job yet. still this is a "story" and u will eventually get a job. but even so, you are already following the "darkness" build. that job doesn't exists in the world, its a unique "job" part of the story. u will later be able to join a guild/job. theres 5 of those. remember u play a story in the maple.x engine. maple.x engine is created to job 5 aventurers jobs, but in KingsFall u are not doing that. try "freemode" if u want to see how it is. (freemode is in alpha-state, like a demo)
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everything is now fixed.
- scroll shop was due to the new item-price-calculator. because of the scrolls are "special" they didnt have a unique ID, so it crashed
- pictures was due to a loading bug. this happened when I updated the engine to load .webp.
- that message that showed up, is a leftover when testing the game. also removed.
- the new music-engine is in place, but need more testing. seems to work so far. (this is because of the issues with directsound that seems to cause bugs in windows 10/11, while media foundation is not working properly in 7. the new music-engine should work in all windows)
Man, i wonder where i get wrong... Until facing Magnus everything going really well, but when i fight him i simply cant do any damage to him, just endless miss, miss miss etc...
Maybe i fail somewhere? I play whole game with safity medal and its going well, but now i cant even die or going back or even maybe use cheat with that.
Someone can help here?
Maybe i fail somewhere? I play whole game with safity medal and its going well, but now i cant even die or going back or even maybe use cheat with that.
Someone can help here?
Well, I answered a lot of my own questions through trial and error, and your post answered some others, but I'm afraid I still have a lot to say here...
This'll be a wall of text, and probably fairly negative. I'll apologies about that in advanced, but I wanted to make sure I'm leaving constructive criticism (and not just shitting all over your work for no reason), so I felt the need to properly explain...
Of course it's your game, so you're welcome to ignore everything I say and do what you want with it. I'll even hide it in a spoiler tag in case you just don't want to see it:
I guess I should say something nice too. The MC was getting some hate in reviews, but I found him fairly likable so far; he's immature at times, but doesn't take shit from people and is generally a good guy (so far). The heroines so far are also likeable enough, but I haven't seen enough to say much more then that. Seems like a lot of effort was put into the equip/RPG side of things, though it's hard to get excited about with the gameplay feeling like it does atm.
So it took me three separate attempts, before I made it far enough to see the appeal points in this game, so there is definite room for improvement. In the end I like it, albeit in spire of it's gameplay elements rather than because of them.
★[Edit]★
So, I complained about the scroll(character?) speed a lot, but it was a bug; I run multiple monitors of different resolutions, and for whatever reason when the window in on certain screens it runs at what seems like 1/2 to 1/3 speed. Switching video from 'Hardward' to 'Software' seems to fix this problem for now, but I figured I should report it and let you know you can just ignore any part of my criticism that's directly relegated to scroll(character?) speed. Now that it's running right it seems reasonable.
This'll be a wall of text, and probably fairly negative. I'll apologies about that in advanced, but I wanted to make sure I'm leaving constructive criticism (and not just shitting all over your work for no reason), so I felt the need to properly explain...
Of course it's your game, so you're welcome to ignore everything I say and do what you want with it. I'll even hide it in a spoiler tag in case you just don't want to see it:
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I guess I should say something nice too. The MC was getting some hate in reviews, but I found him fairly likable so far; he's immature at times, but doesn't take shit from people and is generally a good guy (so far). The heroines so far are also likeable enough, but I haven't seen enough to say much more then that. Seems like a lot of effort was put into the equip/RPG side of things, though it's hard to get excited about with the gameplay feeling like it does atm.
So it took me three separate attempts, before I made it far enough to see the appeal points in this game, so there is definite room for improvement. In the end I like it, albeit in spire of it's gameplay elements rather than because of them.
★[Edit]★
So, I complained about the scroll(character?) speed a lot, but it was a bug; I run multiple monitors of different resolutions, and for whatever reason when the window in on certain screens it runs at what seems like 1/2 to 1/3 speed. Switching video from 'Hardward' to 'Software' seems to fix this problem for now, but I figured I should report it and let you know you can just ignore any part of my criticism that's directly relegated to scroll(character?) speed. Now that it's running right it seems reasonable.
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why waste time writing if u dont like it? just go play something u like.
if u dont understand what a clicker is, its your problem, but here u waste my time by writing crap.
Im so fucking tired of u people complaining all the time. go make your own game if u are so good.
theres a reason why the game is like that and why its a clicker.
- to not make the same as the original.
- to allow u to farm faster as the original game (bbb) took months of gameplay to get anywhere
- to create a unique game, because theres very few clicker games out there.
- u can control a sprite, that happens when u do the jump-quests. and guess what, people complains that they need to do the jump quest also.
my advice, just delete the game and find yourself a VN game that is easy to control. just press space and read.
good luck.
if u dont understand what a clicker is, its your problem, but here u waste my time by writing crap.
Im so fucking tired of u people complaining all the time. go make your own game if u are so good.
theres a reason why the game is like that and why its a clicker.
- to not make the same as the original.
- to allow u to farm faster as the original game (bbb) took months of gameplay to get anywhere
- to create a unique game, because theres very few clicker games out there.
- u can control a sprite, that happens when u do the jump-quests. and guess what, people complains that they need to do the jump quest also.
my advice, just delete the game and find yourself a VN game that is easy to control. just press space and read.
good luck.
Yeah... clicker/idle games are a bit more complex then just clicking on stuff and doing damage, they're typically complex passive income management games that ultimately don't even require clicking much past very beginning. well, with a lot of individual variation and exceptions of course. Idk what exactly this is, but it obviously isn't that, which is fine, assuming it's also fun.
Well, I also responded to your individual points, but decided it was pointless.
You're clearly not interested in any feedback. In fact I don't think you even read what I wrote, since I retracted some of my complaints about speed as a result of a bug, which you either didn't read or couldn't be bothered to acknowledge. Instead you just got mad and defensive, in spite of the fact that, overall, I said I liked it. I didn't even trash it on review since I figured it's not finished and some simple improvements are all it would take to resolved almost everything I mentioned. Shit, I even hid all the negative shit in a spoiler warning to make it as easy to ignore as possible for you (in case you just didn't want to hear the negativity today) AND threw some praise in at the end; still not enough I guess. Since my consideration was so well recieved, fuck it.
Yeah, I'll just drop it play something that's actually fun then, since this is not gonna get better with your attitude towards criticism being what it is. Good luck with your game man.
Btw, to anyone besides baka... am I the one being a dick here? Because I'm honestly not trying to be. Oh well.
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I want u to tell me any other clicker game that is more complex and feature rich than this one. most clicker games are good up until its repetitive. even Clicker Heroes 2 is no near the level of this one.
I know exactly what u try to do. u just want to feel superior and trash this game. not sure your agenda, but its obvious u want to spit on my work. maybe I posted something somewhere and now u want to trash this one.
and now u try to get some pity points.
no, Im so tired of arrogant people that thinks they know it all and try to tell me what to do.
in the same time you are spitting on all the supporters we have and had, since it means they are stupid to like this trash game right?
of course I will now change everything so U, the most important person in the world will feel satisfied, a person that is not even supporting.
I know exactly what u try to do. u just want to feel superior and trash this game. not sure your agenda, but its obvious u want to spit on my work. maybe I posted something somewhere and now u want to trash this one.
and now u try to get some pity points.
no, Im so tired of arrogant people that thinks they know it all and try to tell me what to do.
in the same time you are spitting on all the supporters we have and had, since it means they are stupid to like this trash game right?
of course I will now change everything so U, the most important person in the world will feel satisfied, a person that is not even supporting.
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Thanks for this. I started playing after a while, launched the new update, and got to DarkGoo. Motherfucker was regenning all his damage in one click. Despite me being way overleveled, having good items and being on enough meds to make my char a walking pharmacy, the fight was impossible. Was gonna ask wtf were y'all thinking making that thing a god, but this exe fixed it.
One thing I noticed was that Valerie no longer came back after her mission. I played for quite a few hours and even idled in the location in front of the farm house, but she just kinda vanished. Not sure if I have forgotten something or if something was done to her. I have done all her quests that I have for the place where I'm at in the story.
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I'll look at Valerie and see where the issue might lay. Thanks!
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Hello. Can you post your save/sav of Valerie not returning? We're changing the code structure but we need a save to test it on