Others Kings Fall [v 0.2.7.7d] [Bastard Games]

[HaseoOfDeath]

Is there a sharing in Love Route, or is it only on the Corruption route?

Also, game still feels grindy, I want to play it through, but cheat a little like Gold and Drop rate boost, I'm guessing they are the Patron stuff?

Is there a quick sell option in shops? Dragging all items takes too long.

Valerie has sharing in her Theif Missions
Mina and Orchid can also be convinced into a 3some with another man if you pick a certain character to Recruit.
But as Baka said, most of the sharing (95%) is Corruption only.

And this last update added Completion Bonuses for simply doing all the content in a town. These will help a TON and doing the completion bonus for Maple Island and Lith Harbor will get you all the items, Meso, and EXP you'll need.

The grind isn't as bad as it used to be either since you can:

A. Buy most of the Monster Materials from Nave in Henesys
B. Can actually escalate and descalate drop rates by right clicking and left clicking items in the Library. All the systems intertwine to make sure you're not grinding for much.

 

[Letstryitout]

Valerie has sharing in her Theif Missions
Mina and Orchid can also be convinced into a 3some with another man if you pick a certain character to Recruit.
But as Baka said, most of the sharing (95%) is Corruption only.

And this last update added Completion Bonuses for simply doing all the content in a town. These will help a TON and doing the completion bonus for Maple Island and Lith Harbor will get you all the items, Meso, and EXP you'll need.

The grind isn't as bad as it used to be either since you can:

A. Buy most of the Monster Materials from Nave in Henesys
B. Can actually escalate and descalate drop rates by right clicking and left clicking items in the Library. All the systems intertwine to make sure you're not grinding for much.

Thanks, is there a way to reset the routes(Gallery seems to be missing content for sugar babies, and I want to see other choice, because they have more content, I think stamps do not reset the route entirely), and which click increases the drops and lowers them? I'm guessing blue glow means it's increased, and red glow means it's lowered?

Sorry, if these questions were answered before or mentioned in the game, I might've missed them.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Thanks, is there a way to reset the routes(Gallery seems to be missing content for sugar babies, and I want to see other choice, because they have more content, I think stamps do not reset the route entirely), and which click increases the drops and lowers them? I'm guessing blue glow means it's increased, and red glow means it's lowered?

Sorry, if these questions were answered before or mentioned in the game, I might've missed them.

So Sugar Babies aren't included into the Gallery due to them basically being walking Galleries. It basically would force the game to copy 4 of the same sex scenes and that would just be overkill.

And for Routes, nope. You have to choose one per playthrough per character but the Story Skips and Relationship Stamps will fast track what you haven't seen. If you've already chosen a Route, using a Stamp will do nothing. You need to start a new game to see the other half.

And yeah, Blue is Increased and Red is Decreased. If you open up the Library it'll tell you which is which

 

[Letstryitout]

So Sugar Babies aren't included into the Gallery due to them basically being walking Galleries. It basically would force the game to copy 4 of the same sex scenes and that would just be overkill.

And for Routes, nope. You have to choose one per playthrough per character but the Story Skips and Relationship Stamps will fast track what you haven't seen. If you've already chosen a Route, using a Stamp will do nothing. You need to start a new game to see the other half.

And yeah, Blue is Increased and Red is Decreased. If you open up the Library it'll tell you which is which

Honestly, grinding thing is w/e one can manage, but Route Reset not being implemented is kind of ass, l hate that the most. Especially for a game that gets updated, if the route gets worse scenes where player is not comfortable/happy with the route where they prefer the other one at the end or the scenes of that route is less compared to the other route(s). I hope you implement reset system.

 

[baka]

u can unlock everything in the recollection by using the "permanoob" medal that u can buy in the beginner shop.
use the "badge" to skip up to a chapter. u got up to kerning-city main-storyline.
a u got stamps that will skip up to the love/corruption decision making for each girl individually.
the cost to buy those things are very cheap. u just need to transfer a bit of cash.

u can even use the "potion of passing" that will kill the character and create the "coin of passing" that will levelup your new character up to the old one. but u also have level coins 25 and 50, that with a moderate cost will level u to 25 or 50.

as u know u have the "stash" that can be used to transfer "most" of the items u got and with the new character u can transfer, even mesos that way. just a couple of "quest" items and specific-items can not be transfered.

as u see we have added many ways to go around the grinding.
not sure about the route-reset. as u get most information what each route means (the tip board) and u get a choice when u do, to pick love or corruption. if u did wrong with one character its not impossible to help u with that, Haseo can manually fix your save. the route-reset itself is not stupid, and we will discuss a bit about it.
but it can be tricky to do as once u start a route it can affect a lot of things. we can't simply hide choices, remove parameters, reset stuff without creating issues somewhere else, it can be linked to other characters and mess with their choice. this is something I need to discuss with Haseo.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Honestly, grinding thing is w/e one can manage, but Route Reset not being implemented is kind of ass, l hate that the most. Especially for a game that gets updated, if the route gets worse scenes where player is not comfortable/happy with the route where they prefer the other one at the end or the scenes of that route is less compared to the other route(s). I hope you implement reset system.

Route Reset is not something I'm going to add ever. Mainly because:

1. Different Main Character: The Light Hero and the Dark Hero are two different people. Reseting a storyline would have 0 context to change the loving and sweet LH to the future Demon King Dark Hero
2. Different structures to Lovers and Corruption. How do I even explain that a woman went from loving girlfriend and future wife to cum slut and anal addict? Vice versa as well.

I made every Route worth the price of admission. I made every character entire different to inspire multiple playthroughs. There's so much content in either playthrough that Route Reset is just not even viable.

Again if you just want sex scenes, you can unlock the entire Gallery on a new character (Don't use the character you're currently using. Start a new one for obvious reasons attached to the NoobMedal)

But if you want to to see the other Lovers or Corruption Routes it's incredibly easy to jumpstart it.

1. Start a new game
2. Buy the Story Skip for Kerning City. This skips the entire story and puts you before the next Story Chapter
3. Head to the Recollection Room and buy Stamps for everyone. Now just use The Quest Tracker to find where the NPC's are and start the other Routes.

You can literally jump straight into content you've never seen and then skip like 90% of the game you already have seen

 

[FarBonoFar]

Hey, HaseoOfDeath, recently start playing from beginning an decide to go with Medal of Challenge, and died while farming at Ereve, because I can't teleport and don't see any other way to go ther again I think I'm stuck, hope you can assist in any way, maybe by removing medal or saying how to access Ereve again, and if it softlock, please, take a look into that.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Hey, HaseoOfDeath, recently start playing from beginning an decide to go with Medal of Challenge, and died while farming at Ereve, because I can't teleport and don't see any other way to go ther again I think I'm stuck, hope you can assist in any way, maybe by removing medal or saying how to access Ereve again, and if it softlock, please, take a look into that.

Fixed. One of the things I didn't expect to happen but I'll add a way to return. Patron gets updated tomorrow and Public is next Friday. You'll have access to the forever fix between then and will have Vasily take you there and back

 

[FarBonoFar]

Fixed. One of the things I didn't expect to happen but I'll add a way to return. Patron gets updated tomorrow and Public is next Friday. You'll have access to the forever fix between then and will have Vasily take you there and back

Much appreciated

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

King's Fall 0.2.7.1 Public Release: Cassandra The Sugar Baby and Irena The Dirty Fighter
Just now

The update is finally out to Public!
-One new Sugar Baby, Cassandra the Convener
-Irena's Corruption Route has been update; The Dirty Fighter
-Some much needed traveling QOL (Mainly for those on Hard Mode)
-One new early game sex scene with Mai
-And a few other tidbits like another chance at visiting The Island of Ereve
Enjoy!

You must be registered to see the links

 

[FarBonoFar]

-All 20 items are for the new Achievement Medal Shop. Using the Shiny Maple Coins, you can obtain powerful Medals with various effects. Speak to Spiegelmenn when you have at least one of the Coins in your inventory

Does it mean it useless fo Hardcore player or someone who have permanent medal?

 

[baka]

yeah. if u have a permanent medal the rewards are useless for u.
u can still collect the shiny coins to give to another character.

for the hardcore player u already get +100% speed.
its compared to the highest tier of the "speed medals"
but surely u don't get the other types.

maybe we will add something for the hardcore player
where u can use the coins to upgrade your medal, we will see.
something I will consider and discuss with Haseo.

for the other 2 permanent medals, they are kind of cheats already.

 

[Sportivori]

Im honestly starting to get tired of this...
im at lvl 60 full strength build 227-1122 dmg using the beginner set (plus medal for not getting dmgd) cause i had tried before with other character to play the "normal" way that i didnt like so much.
But these Iron Boars you gotta kill for Balrog are a joke. (the 25 ones)
i get that they have 422 defense so there should be some hits that get Guarded.
But why do 1 out of 5 clicks not register at all ?? and because of that by the time a new hit registers the mob is already back at 100% health.

Like i dont know what else i can do, i even tried to use almost every buff item. still is nearly impossible to get 1 kill every 5 minutes of clicking

 

[baka]

what about skills? do u have cannon or cane skills?
using a skill will increase damage a lot.
remember that darkness-damage need INT. if u have added point to DEX/LUK remove that using the AP-reset.
if u dont have a skill, u need to get that ASAP. u also apply a skill by using LEFT/RIGHT mouse click, the skill will highlight, and u will also see that in the damage-information.
using melee weapon without skill is weak. its only ok up to level 20-30 after that a skill is important.

 

[Sportivori]

These are my skills+ stats currently. i have tried using the darkness skills but the dmg it did to them was below 20 and even when maxxing them it would not do as much as my current build would do (if it actually registers my hit (it does something nothing at all, as if i didnt click)
baka

PS. i have tried a full Pirate build (which is my class) but it worked even worse then the other 2 builds)

 

[baka]

knight blast is at 0, u need to increase it to 30
the same with knight channel to increase the darkness power.
so basically add everything u got into the your basic skills.
after that "click" on the knight blast to select it.
but u need a "cannon" weapon. get one and equip it.
after that use AP-reset and add as much INT possible while add STR as little possible (to allow to equip the weapon)

also, the reason get misses is because of low accuracy, when using melee attack u need DEX as well.
but this is nothing u need to do since u will use a cannon-weapon + skill + INT (skill uses magic accuracy that is based on INT)
remember u need to select the knight blast, a cannon melee damage is worthless.
only together with a skill u will be able to do damage.
(cannon is a bit more difficult to play, since its a skill-based type, it only works with a skill, and using a skill consume MP, be aware of that)

also, theres 3 different types of skills:
passive: u don't need to do anything, those skills will give u whatever benefit
supportive: it cost MP to use and it will give u something for X seconds. u can click on the skill to make it "automatic" will show as green-animation around the skill-icon (only work if u have enough MP) (also an support-skill gets a key assigned to it, check settings to see what key, u can change that)
active: all attack skills are active skills and cost HP/MP to use. u can have 2 active skills, left or right mouse button. (that u need to select in the skill-inventory, it will show a red/blue animation around the skill-icon)

cannon speciality has only 1 active skill (so far) while cane specialist has 2 active skills.

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Im honestly starting to get tired of this...
im at lvl 60 full strength build 227-1122 dmg using the beginner set (plus medal for not getting dmgd) cause i had tried before with other character to play the "normal" way that i didnt like so much.
But these Iron Boars you gotta kill for Balrog are a joke. (the 25 ones)
i get that they have 422 defense so there should be some hits that get Guarded.
But why do 1 out of 5 clicks not register at all ?? and because of that by the time a new hit registers the mob is already back at 100% health.

Like i dont know what else i can do, i even tried to use almost every buff item. still is nearly impossible to get 1 kill every 5 minutes of clicking

It's good I hear feedback from this especially so late in the game. We're doing another Monthly Build so I'll see what can be addressed and or changed for this one as well as what I can do earlier to make sure a player is way more primed for the Perion Story Chapter.

 

[Sportivori]

knight blast is at 0, u need to increase it to 30
the same with knight channel to increase the darkness power.
so basically add everything u got into the your basic skills.
after that "click" on the knight blast to select it.
but u need a "cannon" weapon. get one and equip it.
after that use AP-reset and add as much INT possible while add STR as little possible (to allow to equip the weapon)

also, the reason get misses is because of low accuracy, when using melee attack u need DEX as well.
but this is nothing u need to do since u will use a cannon-weapon + skill + INT (skill uses magic accuracy that is based on INT)
remember u need to select the knight blast, a cannon melee damage is worthless.
only together with a skill u will be able to do damage.
(cannon is a bit more difficult to play, since its a skill-based type, it only works with a skill, and using a skill consume MP, be aware of that)

also, theres 3 different types of skills:
passive: u don't need to do anything, those skills will give u whatever benefit
supportive: it cost MP to use and it will give u something for X seconds. u can click on the skill to make it "automatic" will show as green-animation around the skill-icon (only work if u have enough MP) (also an support-skill gets a key assigned to it, check settings to see what key, u can change that)
active: all attack skills are active skills and cost HP/MP to use. u can have 2 active skills, left or right mouse button. (that u need to select in the skill-inventory, it will show a red/blue animation around the skill-icon)

cannon speciality has only 1 active skill (so far) while cane specialist has 2 active skills.

Okay, i'll try what you advised.

It's good I hear feedback from this especially so late in the game. We're doing another Monthly Build so I'll see what can be addressed and or changed for this one as well as what I can do earlier to make sure a player is way more primed for the Perion Story Chapter.

Yeah most of the game i have not had much problems at all, balance etc seems good (for my "cheat" run)
And i will try what Baka advised and see if from then on it becomes easier(more manageable).

 

[HaseoOfDeath]

Okay, i'll try what you advised.



Yeah most of the game i have not had much problems at all, balance etc seems good (for my "cheat" run)
And i will try what Baka advised and see if from then on it becomes easier(more manageable).

By chance are you using any Pyuns and or if you had any left, would you say they would make a difference for this Chapter?

 

[Sportivori]

By chance are you using any Pyuns and or if you had any left, would you say they would make a difference for this Chapter?

i have pretty much dropped any pyuns in my stash, i found the amount of time they last don't give enough of a difference, compared to a warrior potion (which you can get pretty early, if you use the "cheat" medal) i only have tried the Pyun of Attack before and the 15 secs duration and 5 hit of 25% is not a big enough of a trade off from just using a 3 min potion that brings you base dmg up. and with the cost of them aswell it just aint worth it imo
i have not tried any of the other Pyunns(Defense/Exchange/Growth) so cant give you an accurate opinion on those


Also i seem to struggle to find The Tinkerer Boxes Part 8 (East of Perion) i wasted all potions of detection that i bought on pretty much everything to the east of perion and nothing showed up for me. could i get an hint or something.

Also i did what Baka advised and everything so far in Perion looks doable. just need alot of Hp/Mp potions but i have luckly a ton of those