HTML Legality of Patreon and HTML Games?

[Tidbid]

I have been wondering something about the legality in terms of copyright for patreon games that use porn images, gifs and videos? How is it that people can make money off of this while not getting copyright claims?

Is it just noone pursuing legal action?

 

[Joshua Tree]

Not sure if any of them really show images used in the games on the patreon site. So it fly under the radar I guess. But yeah I guess it could end up with legal trouble if someone that got rights to these images get to know. Or if the adult stars used in these games get to know etc.

 

[whiskeyrose]

Either flies under the radar or the devs are in a country that doesn't give a fuck about american porn copyright.

I am curious about how patreon apparently has the time to screen renpy projects to make sure the words tenent/landlady appear. But that projects that have been going on for years with ripped porno images are unnoticed.

I say that as a dev that primarily has used ripped porno images. But I've never (and will never) take funds in any shape for those projects. Its just a lewd hobby.

 

[DMon1981]

Either flies under the radar or the devs are in a country that doesn't give a fuck about american porn copyright.

I am curious about how patreon apparently has the time to screen renpy projects to make sure the words tenent/landlady appear. But that projects that have been going on for years with ripped porno images are unnoticed.

I say that as a dev that primarily has used ripped porno images. But I've never (and will never) take funds in any shape for those projects. Its just a lewd hobby.

I would imagine that Patreon looks for keywords, so fairly easy. Whereas images taken from google or wherever is not an easy process to identify.

This is just an assumption on my part though.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Either flies under the radar or the devs are in a country that doesn't give a fuck about american porn copyright.

I am curious about how patreon apparently has the time to screen renpy projects to make sure the words tenent/landlady appear. But that projects that have been going on for years with ripped porno images are unnoticed.

I say that as a dev that primarily has used ripped porno images. But I've never (and will never) take funds in any shape for those projects. Its just a lewd hobby.

I looked up that game "Last Man" on Patreon, and the creator didn't seem to have that game there at all, just other projects. If you look at like Avenger, he had a patreon going for a long time for "Son of a bitch" and "Big Kuyash", but in reality it's just a wallet, with little info about the games itself. I don't think there is anyone over at Patreon that sit download and sift through these games (or whatever content a creator does make). Think its more about certain keywords and phrases get flagged and then looked into.

Patreon isn't really an advertisement platform. Such the creators need to do themselves, spread the word about their project to draw them to their patreon page. So to just have some basic info and keep it as a wallet would most likely fly very low under the radar. Unless someone start snitch to Patreon in regard of the content. Wouldn't be the first time though. See players upset about content in games, or creators (whatever), and then snitch to Patreon.

 

[mosbles]

I assume it works based on how many people report your project, I doubt Patreon actively downloads projects to find wrong stuff in them, unless you make big bank with them, the less money you get the safer you'll be.

 

[vneotpolemus]

My guess is Patreon only looks at copyright infringement after they get a DMCA notice. Until then its not their problem.

 

[grave_merc]

Was there really ever a case of a porn studio/actress wanting their content removed? I ask because in general it's a promotion for them, and it seems the entire industry works like this - gifs or images just pump up the interest for their videos.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Was there really ever a case of a porn studio/actress wanting their content removed? I ask because in general it's a promotion for them, and it seems the entire industry works like this - gifs or images just pump up the interest for their videos.

Dunno, but the girls itself is not necessary the ones that have the copyright to the images, and since the porn business isn't exactly the high tide it used to be before the days of internet. Could be someone out there that could upset, idk.

 

[Jeancul]

80% of internet it's about porn, and maybe 70% of this acces it's actualy complely free or easy to found for free… Html porn's games on patreon i guess it's about 0,000000001% of this part. Maybe that explain why no one care about to ask creator to paid copyrighte or maybe they don't care.

 

[Joshua Tree]

80% of internet it's about porn, and maybe 70% of this acces it's actualy complely free or easy to found for free… Html porn's games on patreon i guess it's about 0,000000001% of this part. Maybe that explain why no one care about to ask creator to paid copyrighte or maybe they don't care.

I know there is, or at least was "pirate hunters" out there that work with the industry though. Many that got the "we know you downloaded xxx porn movies", pay up or we drag you to court. This tied mostly to torrents though. I recall a story about some lawyers that got the "rights" to some old movies, then leaked them out into torrent sites, for later go after the people that downloaded them.

As for 70% of porn access is free. Well that is a truth with modifications. Take all these redtube, pornhub and all those similar sites. They under the same umbrella. Their model is all about push the user towards premium sites with a subscription model of which they get a cut of. Just as you have all these sites such as vipergirls (and many like them), that get a cut from all the traffic leading to sites such as keep2share, fileboom etc, which require a premium subscription to be useful.

Wonder what would happen if some "creative" creator reached out to a bunch of stars he wanted to use in a game, and asked for endorsement. These girls get quite the following too, could inflate some patreon numbers

 

[Davox]

As above, the most visited free porn sites are actually owned by the porn companies. They generate revenue from the ads on the free site as well as premium content (People actually paying for porn makes up a little over 50% of MindGeeks revenue). They use the free sites to data mine vast amounts of users habits which in turn tells them what they should be producing for the premium content.

Wonder what would happen if some "creative" creator reached out to a bunch of stars he wanted to use in a game, and asked for endorsement. These girls get quite the following too, could inflate some patreon numbers

There was a HTML Real Porn Dev on here a few months ago who was claiming they had negotiated rights to all the images. I called him him out on it and he couldn't prove it.

*EDIT*

Found it:
https://f95zone.to/threads/clockwork-poison-v0-8-poison-adrian.28136/#post-1816300

Worth reading a few post prior to that to read a dev almost going into meltdown. Asking people not to name the pornstars being used in the games in a new one!

 

[Joshua Tree]

As above, the most visited free porn sites are actually owned by the porn companies. They generate revenue from the ads on the free site as well as premium content (People actually paying for porn makes up a little over 50% of MindGeeks revenue). They use the free sites to data mine vast amounts of users habits which in turn tells them what they should be producing for the premium content.

And people wonder what's up with all this milfs, stepmom, stepsis, stepdad..... incest fad... lol. People get what they want and ask for.

 

[eluddia]

Well in order to pursue legal action the copyright holder would have to know that their material is being used. Unlike sites like youtube, you can't just use a bot to comb through all these games, so the copyright holders probably think it's more trouble than it's worth to go after the creators of those types of porn games.

 

[ELIX_pwbl]

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