Recommending Lesbian Protagonist Games List (My Version)

[BenHatira]

Well, you're one of the people who said that this list isn't purely lesbian route games, when it's always worked that way, Cboy is always looking for games with a purely lesbian route to include here, I always see him asking " Can we played this lesbian only or not? " everywhere

And I don't need to create a list yet, since this has always worked this way. The ones who need to create one are the morons who want to include games with mandatory sex scenes with men on this list.

Well wasn't that the problem to begin with though.

The whole conversation started because a game had that disgusting prologue situation that includes dicks to begin with, before the dev offered a clean lesbian route after those situations ?

All of us have the same end goal and that's having an option to play a fmc in a lesbian route.

And i just claimed that i would be okey to skip through some text or scenes to get into a actual route that avoids dicks afterwards in CBoys list ...

 

[The Celtic fan]

Well wasn't that the problem to begin with though.

The whole conversation started because a game had that disgusting prologue situation that includes dicks to begin with, before the dev offered a clean lesbian route after those situations ?

All of us have the same end goal and that's having an option to play a fmc in a lesbian route.

And i just claimed that i would be okey to skip through some text or scenes to get into a actual route that avoids dicks afterwards in CBoys list ...

No, the problem is that you and that other asshole are trying to force a game with sex scenes involving men on this list.

This list is not a collection of scenes; it's a list of pure lesbian routes, we can't just take what we like from a game and ignore the other mandatory parts.

And the prologue is part of the game. Hell, from what I read, in the prologue you can even make decisions about which guys to sleep with. The game already starts there, so you can't play a lesbian route.

Once again, Cboy is always asking everywhere if the game can be played entirely as a only lesbian. He doesn't ask how much you have to skip and ignore to see what's left.

 

[BenHatira]

No, the problem is that you and that other asshole are trying to force a game with sex scenes involving men on this list.

This list is not a collection of scenes; it's a list of lesbian routes, we can't just take what we like from a game and ignore the other mandatory parts.

And the prologue is part of the game. Hell, from what I read, in the prologue you can even make decisions about which guys to sleep with. The game already starts there, so you can't play a lesbian route.

Well i have to be honest here, i haven't played this game yet.
So i can't talk about how it plays out and how the prologue potrays the FMC.

What i was talking about was having games on this list that have a female prota that is not considered lesbian to begin with but has the option to get into a sapphic/lesbian route.

I never said i'm cool with games being added to the LIST that involve having the fmc get dicked down at some point.

Stating that i'm "cool" or "picking up the crumbs" if there is some hetero action before we get into the lesbian path was only based on the fact how FMC's games seem to make money.

Once again, Cboy is always asking everywhere if the game can be played entirely as a only lesbian. He doesn't ask how much you have to skip and ignore to see what's left.

Of course he does, but he also adds games with said premise to the list as long there is a option to have a lesbian route at the end of the day. (sadly)

He also asks for "can dicks be avoided".

And yeah nowadays the line is rather thin on this list ...


Also calling me an asshole because of that is pretty low imo

 

[Olivia_V]

It all sounds like Black Incense shouldn't be on this list until it has actual lesbian content, and you can skip the prologue.

 

[BenHatira]

It all sounds like Black Incense shouldn't be on this list until it has actual lesbian content, and you can skip the prologue.

Yup that's true i guess.

 

[FatGiant]

It all sounds like Black Incense shouldn't be on this list until it has actual lesbian content, and you can skip the prologue.

Being able to skip forced content, is NOT the same as not having it, IMO.

Doesn't really matter any way, with that type of prologue, there's NO WAY the Dev is even able to understand or respect a Lesbian route, at most it will be a few scenes with one or 2 specific LI's that may or may not be Lesbians, but most probably will be Bi.

If you start a FMC story by making her a cumdump, there's very little hope that you'll EVER be able to understand a wlw relationship.

It's not that it can't be done, but the fact that I have NO HOPE that it will be done in any satisfactory manner, the mindset simply isn't there to begin with.

Peace

 

[The Celtic fan]

Very few devs at this level are able to complete games with that much branching.

That depends on what you want to do.

Obviously, creating a new route requires a lot of work, but the game we're talking about supposedly already has lesbian routes planned, so 99% of the work would be done with this.

Unless sleeping with a guy is super important to the story and will change more than a few small dialogues, it's not difficult at all.

It's not like it would require new renders, and even if it did, the dev already uses unpolished AI images, so the quality of the images doesn't matter much.

The only thing you would need is to make a simple conditional that changes the text depending on whether or not you had sex with a man in the prologue, and you only need that for the first sex scene with someone.

 

[BenHatira]

Being able to skip forced content, is NOT the same as not having it, IMO.

Not only a realistic opinion, it's a fact and it happened storywise.
So yeah of course this game shouldn't be on the list.

But the way some people reacted to a suggestion is just disgusting ...

 

[The Celtic fan]

Not only a realistic opinion, it's a fact and it happened storywise.
So yeah of course this game shouldn't be on the list.

But the way some people reacted to a suggestion is just disgusting ...

Disgusting in what way? In asking that the list be respected? No one here is attacking either the developer or the game.

 

[Saerwen]

I wish devs would stop adding lesbian content as fetish for 1 or 2 scenes in hetero focused games to avoid the bad usage of the tag. And I believe many hetero lovers don't even want lesbian lol unless it's a 3some M/FF.

I should start making my own game at some point from everything I've seen playing multiple H games

This. Why the fuck is so difficult to make a bisexual FMC game that have three different paths? One purely lesbian, two purely straight and three bisexual. You can include for example fff in lesbian route, fmm in straight and ffm in bisexual. For supposedly developers many aren't that capable or they don't know how sexuality works.

 

[The Celtic fan]

This. Why the fuck is so difficult to make a bisexual FMC game that have three different paths? One purely lesbian, two purely straight and three bisexual. You can include for example fff in lesbian route, fmm in straight and ffm in bisexual. For supposedly developers many aren't that capable or they don't know how sexuality works.

It's not that it's hard, unless you know absolutely nothing about programming, in which case you're honestly not a developer.

The hard part about making more routes is doing the rendering or the drawings or having an artist. It's a lot of time or money wasted on something that not everyone is interested in.

But when you replace this with AI and don't even bother to polish it, then to me it's simply that you weren't interested and didn't want to attract that audience, which is reasonable, or you're just lazy.

 

[BenHatira]

Disgusting in what way? In asking that the list be respected? No one here is attacking either the developer or the game.

Nah but you are attacking a guy posting a suggestion and people trying to defend him....

It's not that it's hard, unless you know absolutely nothing about programming, in which case you're honestly not a developer.

What are you even talking about, do you realize how much more work is behind the programming for a VN ?

It's waaaayyyyyy more than the render part.

The hard part about making more routes is doing the rendering or the drawings or having an artist. It's a lot of time or money wasted on something that not everyone is interested in.

You start up the render process after setting the models, which is a idle which is way less work than the implantation of actual code to make the game work (especially if you have more than one path's, what should be standard for devs according to you.)

 

[The Celtic fan]

Nah but you are attacking a guy posting a suggestion and people trying to defend him....



What are you even talking about, do you realize how much more work is behind the programming for a VN ?

It's waaaayyyyyy more than the render part.



You start up the render process after setting the models, which is a idle which is way less work than the implantation of actual code to make the game work (especially if you have more than one path's, what should be standard for devs according to you.)

When I started talking, I didn't attack anyone.

I started attacking you guys kept insisting on that game here and even went so far as to say that the list is not exclusive to games with purely lesbian routes.

But hey, that's because this is literally the only thread on this page that's useful for people who want to play games with purely lesbian routes. The other threads with the word “lesbian” in their title are just as useless as the tag, so even if I end up acting like an annoying police officer, I want to defend the only space we have here.

If you think that's disgusting, that's up to you. For me, it's more disgusting to want to include games with mandatory male scenes in a pure lesbian routes list, and get angry like that other ashole did when it was told that this isn't the place for that kind of game.

And as for the routes and novels, I didn't say that the other stuff wasn't complicated, I said that doing all the graphics part, the scene modeling, and drawings is the most difficult, time-consuming, and even costly part of having many routes.

I only talked about it in simple terms.

 

[HollowDux]

For a dev though ?

As i stated that creates a FMC game, which is sadly based on paying customers that want to see her getting corrupted ?

Have you read what i wrote ?

I wouldn't be here if i wasn't pro fem mc sapphic love route all the way anyway, but i have to be realistic (sometimes you have to go through some dicks to get to your path with those creators ) ...

Because, as far as I understand, in your head the only way to "corrupt" someone is through hetero sex?

But to make the big bucks those devs who possess great wirting skills have to start out with a straight or bisexual MC to get that horny corruption crowd on board.

At the end of the day they have to do it, otherwise they won't make enough cash, cause we are rather a smaller crowd regarding having a lesbian MC throughout a whole game.

Please correct me if I’m misunderstanding your point again, but from what I gather, you’re saying that a developer cannot make money if they allow players to choose to be straight or lesbian at the start of the game?

If these developers are such skilled writers, why do their stories often follow the same pattern? Requiring the player to be "corrupted" by a man and to start out as heterosexual or bisexual? Why not offer players a choice about their character’s preferences through dialogue?

For example, this particular developer wrote 400,000 words just for the prologue alone. It seems reasonable to expect that adding a few hundred words to make the game more inclusive would be possible. If new scenes needed to be rendered, I could understand that is less feasible after the fact, but since AI art is being used, generating additional images should be done in a few minutes.

the dev own words on his VN thread : " My game design philosophy is very much pro-player choice. Baldurs Gate 3 is a high bar to aim for but I do want that kind of choice in game as the story unfolds."
One of the first thing the dev do is forcing the player in a hetero relation + sex. His credibility took a nose dive right here for me.

My main point is that I’d like to see more inclusivity in games that aim for a large but very diverse crowd. Yet, for some reason, there are always people who strongly defend the opposite approach, being less inclusive and forcing more scenes on the player.

 

[BenHatira]

Because, as far as I understand, in your head the only way to "corrupt" someone is through hetero sex?

Please correct me if I’m misunderstanding your point again, but from what I gather, you’re saying that a developer cannot make money if they allow players to choose to be straight or lesbian at the start of the game?

If these developers are such skilled writers, why do their stories often follow the same pattern? Requiring the player to be "corrupted" by a man and to start out as heterosexual or bisexual? Why not offer players a choice about their character’s preferences through dialogue?

For example, this particular developer wrote 400,000 words just for the prologue alone. It seems reasonable to expect that adding a few hundred words to make the game more inclusive would be possible. If new scenes needed to be rendered, I could understand that is less feasible after the fact, but since AI art is being used, generating additional images should be done in a few minutes.

the dev own words on his VN thread : " My game design philosophy is very much pro-player choice. Baldurs Gate 3 is a high bar to aim for but I do want that kind of choice in game as the story unfolds."
One of the first thing the dev do is forcing the player in a hetero relation + sex. His credibility took a nose dive right here for me.

I'am just talking about sad experiences, when looking up FMC games for a while corruption based games are the ones bringing in the money on different platforms compared to products that are based on lesbian protas.
That's sadly a fact and the reason i claimed we don't really get the games we want or deserve.
Personally i dislike those type of games as i stated over the years in different threads on this forum.

I just said that some of those dev's are able to write a great sapphic route that would be better than most of the Lesbian focused games we have nowadays, even if you have to go through a hetero scene beforehand...

I could name some games if you want to check them out

My main point is that I’d like to see more inclusivity in games that aim for a large but very diverse crowd. Yet, for some reason, there are always people who strongly defend the opposite approach, being less inclusive and forcing more scenes on the player.

And i'am with you on that, i don't get that i was tagged as some anti lesbian FMC groupie on this thread for saying i even "take up the crumbs" and skip through fucking hetero scenes beacause i'am able to play a lesbian path afterwards....

This was never explicitly about the recommened game for me btw...

 

[FatGiant]

The main issue with the theme that brings us all here, Lesbian content, is that it is always misunderstood by straight Devs.

To them, any scene between 2 women, or even a ffm situation is Lesbian content. It isn't, not for me, and I suspect that many of you would say the same. A lesbian route, CAN NOT include at any moment, entertaining male attention and accepting that your partners do it with you.

The problem isn't that they (the Devs) don't want to write or render or code, is that they have really no idea what it is they are/should/must be doing in a Lesbian route.

Looking at what passes for Lesbian content in the games available in F95 (I don't go anywhere else), with the great exceptions of very few titles, most of it has absolutely no inkling what even is a wlw relationship, or why it is different, or why that matters, or what type of sex they even have/prefer/want. They have no clue how women speak to each other, they simply write males with tits & with no dicks (sometimes). If they go for corruption, it's even worse.

So, trying to introduce in this list a game that starts with an obviously hetero woman, that may or may not discover a taste for tacos and gives up hot-dogs, is truly another attempt to make this a list of more of the same that is already the norm everywhere else.

If that Dev wanted to make a Lesbian game, he should have started by understanding what a Lesbian even is, instead of basing his knowledge on what other clueless straight Devs have made before him. But, he clearly was only interested in making a "pretend Lesbian" fetish in hopes of catching a few distracted players...

Peace

 

[The Celtic fan]

I know that other games may have better routes, and I know that the ones here may not be the best. To be honest, I think the vast majority of the games on this list are crap.

The thing is, this list it's mosly an informative list, information that the game can be played in a completely lesbian way, without any kind of dick from start to finish. That's the important part.

I'm a lesbian, and I can't stand playing games with female protagonists and mandatory heterosexual scenes. The list is useful to me not to know if I'm going to like the game, but to know that there is a remote possibility that it might even be playable for me.

And no, I'm not asking for the list to be tailored to what I'm looking for, but since I came to this page, this list has always worked that way. Cboy is always asking if the game can be played from start to finish in a lesbian way. If I'm wrong, I'd love for Cboy to correct me, I would apologize and try to make my own list. But from what I understand, it works that way and no one had ever questioned that in years; they always asked that the game be played from start to finish with only lesbian scenes, and it bothers me when people come looking for it to be changed.

 

[exjoker \SX]

The main issue with the theme that brings us all here, Lesbian content, is that it is always misunderstood by straight Devs.

To them, any scene between 2 women, or even a ffm situation is Lesbian content. It isn't, not for me, and I suspect that many of you would say the same. A lesbian route, CAN NOT include at any moment, entertaining male attention and accepting that your partners do it with you.

The problem isn't that they (the Devs) don't want to write or render or code, is that they have really no idea what it is they are/should/must be doing in a Lesbian route.

Peace

You know what, at this point, I totally agree with you!

In sites like e-hentai and imhentai, things always work so: any manga or doujin or cgs involving 2 women are tagged with "yuri".

I don't if such tag is manually added or automatically labeled by the site itself. I just think it's stupid, like why this tagging way is workable? Has no one ever questioned and made feedbacks to those sites?

Yeah, at least I, and people in this thread I believe, do not appreciate such labeling method. But since it's been a "tradition" over the years, it might have already become a, what I say, convention-- which means it has to have certain reasons for doing so.
So I'm expecting those who believe 2 women appearing is so-called lesbian can give their reasons for why they support so? We've given ours already, and it's high time that they hold microphone.
They are free to elaborate why sometimes, even ffm threesome is considered "lesbian"? Judging from the detail that the girls simply deep kiss one another when one gets her pussy licked and the other rides on the dick? Or is it because certain individual event(s) where 2 girls happen to have a sex scene without men, with this regarded as "lesbian"?

 

[The Celtic fan]

You know what, at this point, I totally agree with you!

In sites like e-hentai and imhentai, things always work so: any manga or doujin or cgs involving 2 women are tagged with "yuri".

I don't if such tag is manually added or automatically labeled by the site itself. I just think it's stupid, like why this tagging way is workable? Has no one ever questioned and made feedbacks to those sites?

Yeah, at least I, and people in this thread I believe, do not appreciate such labeling method. But since it's been a "tradition" over the years, it might have already become a, what I say, convention-- which means it has to have certain reasons for doing so.
So I'm expecting those who believe 2 women appearing is so-called lesbian can give their reasons for why they support so? We've given ours already, and it's high time that they hold microphone.
They are free to elaborate why sometimes, even ffm threesome is considered "lesbian"? Judging from the detail that the girls simply deep kiss one another when one gets her pussy licked and the other rides on the dick? Or is it because certain individual event(s) where 2 girls happen to have a sex scene without men, with this regarded as "lesbian"?

Honestly, I've always wondered why game sites and manga and anime hentai sites do such a poor job.

I mean, for example, on most porn sites I've used, such as xvideos or pornhub, if I go to the lesbian category, I only get lesbian videos, at least at first glance, which means that the at least the great majority are fully lesbian.

I know that with games it's more difficult, because of the different routes a game can have, but I find it strange that all anime and manga sites do it so badly. I don't know if the "normal porn" sites do it very well, or if the others just do it horribly badly.

 

[yacky91]

Forced sex is just annoying, specially when at one point you can choose your main LI.