VN Ren'Py Lesson in Loyalty [Ch.4] [Lesson in Loyalty]

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xXwankerXx

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Ok, so, since some ppl here apparently missed the whole point of a 'mandatory' planned tag list and came up with all kinds of ridiculous ways to defend the shit that usually happens when there's this kinda 'misunderstanding' involved they supposedly hate, I'll just say this... by mandatory planned tag list, I obviously didn't mean each and every single tag there will be in the game, just the usual NTR/non NTR choice, femdom/maledom, sissification/gay stuff (could be an option here, something I don't wanna see, but others probably do). That would be all. To put it shortly, the blueprint of the story.:WeSmart:

Like I already said, by doing this, the dev can cater to the audience they want and make the story exactly and how they want to by sparing themselves a lot of complaining, a thing that IMHO, doesn't make you be "out of touch with reality" or whatever nonsense, it just makes you a simple customer asking the guy selling you a product to give you a spec list or some technical details about it. Imagine spending a few thousand dollars on a damn pc you didn't bother checking its specs first cause of reasons and then bitching about it being too slow and/or outdated compared to what you expected from it, but that's just my opinion, and since the dev already has an abandoned game where ppl complained a lot about the effeminate MC, a thing that could've been avoided, having another abandoned title wouldn't exactly be anything shocking.:unsure:

It's fine to let Devs tell there stories, I'm all for that but players/supporters SHOULD NEVER not know what they're getting themselves into.
Is that right ?? Somebody wanting to throw a few bucks a dev's way doesn't deserve to know what they're in for in the next updates ?? Wonder how many devs you ever supported with a logic like that and how well this idea worked out for them.:ROFLMAO:

There were a lot of cases when some games started out as completely NTR free, and the devs added it for the 'plot' or reasons, so ppl naturally complained and even canceled their subscriptions bcz of it. A lil honesty from the get-go could've easily prevented that, but instead, these devs abandoned their games cause of lack of support blaming the fans for their mistakes and lack of transparency in regard to the story, and this thing didn't happen just once or twice, BUT there were examples of devs who knew what they wanted in their stories and were honest and upfront about it too, so anyone who doesn't already have a few ideas about the stuff that's gonna be in their stories is just going with the flow or is in it for a few extra bucks, which obviously isn't a good sign for a potential patron.

If I'm being honest, I don't really care what this dev does with the game, since it's his story to tell and all that, but I still think he owes his fans and potential new supporters a few answers about the story and to the question about whether NTR will be in it or not, since the MC isn't exactly a revelation when it comes to well-written or at least believable types of MCs in porn games.
 

Jnx

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All the renders make the women look like the barbies from Small Soldiers

Also, they haven't finished a game yet, OR shown competence in writing. I'm horrified to even attempt this.
 

xXwankerXx

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Only a fool would spend money on something they have no idea of what they are getting into.
Well, let's just say only a very... generous donor who wants to make it rain on other things than strippers or hoes, not a fool. But the whole point of this logic would be for some ppl to pay for what others enjoy seeing, or playing, in our case. Should be pretty clear how 'sound' this type of logic is and why honesty and professionalism are so important in this business.

Also a dev not listing their planned tags = NOT HAVING A DIRECTION = RED FLAG.
Having future tags got nothing to do with creativity or railroading your story… And looking at this dev's other games
which 2 are abandoned speaks volumes
Exactly. Well said.(y) Planned tags are planned for a reason, cuz they're planned, not a 100% confirmed to be in the story, since the game in question is a WIP till it's completed... duh.:WeSmart:

Devs changing their mind about their story for various reasons usually happens a lot, and that has positive or negative consequences, depending on the thing that's changed and how important/liked by the fans it is, but telling your supporters upfront there will or will not be any NTR, sissification, gay stuff or anything else that's pretty divisive on this forum doesn't make you a milker or a liar, it only makes you a trustworthy dev. Don't know why this is taken way out of context like that, but whatever.

What should be discussed here is that the developers currently have 3 games in development. All 3, it seems, being ambitious projects. How many developers have finished 3 games whose development is going on at the same time?
Yeap, soo much 'feedback', and almost nobody mentioned anything about the dev's track record, like it wasn't something that important or worth mentioning.:rolleyes:
 

AL.d

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Haven't even finished playing yet, but I noticed something. This game is very very similar to the beginning of a completed manhwa that I read a while back. For those of you who are curious, read the first couple of chapters of it and tell me if you agree or not. The I was referring to.
New Town. Copied to a comma. It even has the same hair colors for the characters :LOL: Only difference was friend's bratty daughter hanging out with a gf instead of bf to avoid whining from people afraid of dicks. Which is a bit weird since that webtoon is all about netori.

Judging from the description, they will combine it with another manhwa about two dudes competing in a gym (Fitness I think?). I wouldn't give a shit but having read that, there is no point to play the game....
 
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Mibera

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Is that right ?? Somebody wanting to throw a few bucks a dev's way doesn't deserve to know what they're in for in the next updates ?? Wonder how many devs you ever supported with a logic like that and how well this idea worked out for them.:ROFLMAO:
every thing else you said was spot on but that dude you tried to roast is on the same page as you, you just lost a "not" in "should never not know" it was a double negative, so he said the customer should always know what they get into
 
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vs2011xyz

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Who is this girl in Thumbnail?
I didn't find her in the game.
CAN ANYONE TELL ME IS SHE IN THE GAME OR NOT???

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xXwankerXx

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that dude you tried to roast is on the same page as you, you just lost a "not" in "should never not know" it was a double negative, so he said the customer should always know what they get into
My bad. Thanks for pointing out my mistake.(y) The way he worded the first sentence in his post confused me a bit, but I didn't try to roast him. Just wanted to let him know why it's important to try the product first and know what to expect from it in the long run before buying it, or supporting it, in our case.

Coming from this developer, the only tag I foresee in the future is the abandoned tag lol
Joke aside, I sincerely hope it's not the case this time, but realistically speaking, developing 3 games (assuming there's a small chance Silent House isn't abandoned for good) at the same can only work out if the dev has a team working for him, like Inceton do, or at least 3 different PCs to render a decent amount of content they could release in a decent amount of time to keep their supporters interested in their projects, otherwise it's a real risky move to pull and an incoming abandoned tag in 8/10 cases, especially for a small, relatively new dev.

I think that a game without planned tags gives me the impression that the developer doesn't know which direction to take or what type of user he wants to target.
My point exactly, but some ppl here act like those of us who share this opinion demanded devs spoil their stories to everyone before posting their games or some shit like that, which is completely wrong.

I understand most devs don't have ALL the script planned out in advance, cuz there's always room for improvement and all the games are WIPs till they get the completed or abandoned tag, but I fail to see how said devs supposedly don't even know what fetishes they want in their own stories and why making a planned tags or tags that won't be in the story list for the important and divisive tags is such a (cringeworthy) joke to some ppl and not something that's actually helpful, for obvious reasons.:WaitWhat:
 

BigMal235

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There's so many things wrong with this game, I don't even know where to start, so perhaps let's start at the strong sides of this AVN:
- renders are fantastic
- ambient music is great and it reminds of Summer's Gone or Beyond Tomorrow
- the storyline is not original at all, but it has potential

That's about it, now to switch to what kills the potential of this AVN:
- dialogues/language issues. How can the dev create 3 games and not search for someone who will make reading these AVN enjoyable? Dev has no understanding of the culture in the native English-speaking countries, not to mention that he cannot write the comprehensive dialogues. 'Hello Teacher' made me give up on this game immediately and the only reason I finished it, was to know exactly how much the dev blew his chance. The proofreader isn't enough here. The dev needs someone to re-write the entire script and then the proofreader can spot check it
- making a game with a fucked up breeding fetish without making these scenes optional is a certain suicide for the game
- the MC is one of the worst MCs I ever saw in any of the adult games. I mean, I do understand that the idea behind the game is to show his change from a wimp to the man, but at least show some signs this will happen before people start uninstalling it

I summary I would rate the game 1.5/10 just for the renders and music. The story needs to be rewritten by the English speaking person to save this game
 

atrebor68

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My 2 c.
Very good start, solid and interesting story, beatiful graphics, beatiful 3D model.
Maybe a little too many characters, I fear that the author could then get lost in the labyrinth of too many characters he has created.
 
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