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Mod Lessons in Love Progress and Guide Mod [v0.53.0] [cckerberos]
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I definitely don't see it before or during the event.
What event is the hint on, presumably it should be on "That One FMK Scene"
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I'm not saying it's in the game, haven't checked. But what I am saying is rather than the whole 2/6 choices will cause you to miss events, you can compress the hint to "Don't kill Kirin"
Oh, I gotcha. Yeah I knew that, for some reason i'm being coy around the several year old event.
But yeah, that's basically the hint that's needed.
I mean I get it's a pretty inconsequential one and an old event but end of the day it's an integrity thing for me. If there's one missed hint here, that I only know about since i'm replaying to catch up to where I left off years ago, it makes me self-conscious to make more back-ups because there might be more missed events later when I don't know the consequences of the choices when the whole point is to not miss stuff. And i've got years worth of content to catch up on, i'll be approaching my knowledge limit shortly after this.
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I'll get it out later today, but there's no need to wait for it. All of the events in 0.53.0 will trigger automatically, one after another.
Thank you for providing this mod - it is VERY MUCH appreciated! Was wondering if there will be an update for 0.54.0 by this weekend?
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Abolutely not. Mod updates on public releases of LiL
It's an automatic update though, you either qualify for all the events or you don't.
What exactly do you mean by 'Mod updates on public releases of LiL'?
Am I to understand that 0.54.0 is NOT a public release?
Am I to understand that 0.54.0 is NOT a public release?
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This forum is a game piracy forum. The update you downloaded from the main thread is the supporter update that's released at least 2 weeks earlier than the public release. Go look at Sel's subscribestar and see if you can find 0.54 without paying for it.
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Found more missed events the mod doesn't warn about.
Seems my intuition was correct last time about the integrity thing. Which is a shame.
Is there a compelling reason why this is the case or is it just a bug?
It's fine if it is. Mistakes happens. I would just would like to understand why and if it can be fixed or if it's more or a case by case implementation basis for events like this. Not actually sure how the mod works, I was under the impression it was reworked to be partly automated after the big break from Itch.
To miss this event
Choose "Go home" in "Stomachache".
This sets a flag which seems to cause lots of unique responses for Io in addition to the missed event.
Seems like a big deal for future content.
Seems my intuition was correct last time about the integrity thing. Which is a shame.
Is there a compelling reason why this is the case or is it just a bug?
It's fine if it is. Mistakes happens. I would just would like to understand why and if it can be fixed or if it's more or a case by case implementation basis for events like this. Not actually sure how the mod works, I was under the impression it was reworked to be partly automated after the big break from Itch.
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To miss this event
Choose "Go home" in "Stomachache".
This sets a flag which seems to cause lots of unique responses for Io in addition to the missed event.
Seems like a big deal for future content.
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While Go Home is the wrong option because it's red path and likely will make you miss events in the future, it's not fair to say you miss a lot of unique responses cause you miss a lot of unique responses destroying her too (You objectively miss the start of a handjob so far, but you also objectively miss her proving she's gonna stay in her safe space thinking you aren't a threat on red path). That's a choice you want to read both sets of dialogue for afterward.
So far the only event you miss for not doing stomachache is stomachache itself.
Isn't banking on future consequences or potentially missing lots of content something the mod already warns you about?
For instance whether or not to share the nudes of Niki with Otoha. We get some more or less immediate fallback from Rin (arguably a net-positive as it might be the flag she needs for her route to develop as they exchanged nudes also after) but the Niki / Otoha side of that hasn't been fleshed out yet.
Also regarding Io, you've got it backwards. You miss the handjob if you missed stomachache. So you miss the event and the handjob variant of that event later on. Otherwise, you just hold her hand. And the REALLY important thing about that Event is that Io is doing it willingly and Sensei is the one to force her to stop after. Which is a barrier she wouldn't have crossed if you didn't destroy her in order to rebuild her anew.
I also don't know if i'd count her doubling down on platonic non-sex best friends is something that can be considered missed. All the girls have some sort of rejection unique dialogue. There's an equal amount of dialogue the otherway in that respect, if you're talking about the heart-to-heart in Halloween. I think it's likely choosing to not Destroy her is the equivalent of not doing her route. There has to be more missed H events in the future off the back of it. There just has to be. Wouldn't make sense otherwise. And as much as Io might love you for not destroying her; is that going to lead to unique content as opposed to if you did which already is 2:0 for it?
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Found another missed hint.
Concerning the Wizard Route.
Backwards Boulevard
In order to be even presented a choice, to get to this point, you need to have have done various correct Chinami / Tsukasa prompts way, way earlier. But in order to keep going down this route, you need to choose "Endanger Her" in this event. Unfortunately no prompt on this one either.
The missed event tally if you don't seems to be 6 events?
And probably long-term content impact for Chinami at least but maybe the Wizard route as a whole based on how tightly coupled these wizard flags seem to be.
Though... I guess this one is kinda fucking obvious comparatively since all the groundwork had to have been laid for it.
I feel like an asshole for pointing out these btw as having just checked the mod files, at least as far as hints are concerned it has to be all wired up by hand and my brain is struggling with simple booleans at the moment.... It's in one of those files I found hint #11 which is what I recall seeing earlier concerning this route and what I was looking for. But also Hint #17 which looks like a new addition to cover the missing Kirin hint I raised last time. So thanks for that.
I also feel like an asshole asking you to hold my hand better through these choices; but at the end of the day I guess that kinda is what the mod is? Even if you have to point out the obvious sometimes like "Saying no to sex means no sex".
Concerning the Wizard Route.
Backwards Boulevard
In order to be even presented a choice, to get to this point, you need to have have done various correct Chinami / Tsukasa prompts way, way earlier. But in order to keep going down this route, you need to choose "Endanger Her" in this event. Unfortunately no prompt on this one either.
The missed event tally if you don't seems to be 6 events?
And probably long-term content impact for Chinami at least but maybe the Wizard route as a whole based on how tightly coupled these wizard flags seem to be.
Though... I guess this one is kinda fucking obvious comparatively since all the groundwork had to have been laid for it.
I feel like an asshole for pointing out these btw as having just checked the mod files, at least as far as hints are concerned it has to be all wired up by hand and my brain is struggling with simple booleans at the moment.... It's in one of those files I found hint #11 which is what I recall seeing earlier concerning this route and what I was looking for. But also Hint #17 which looks like a new addition to cover the missing Kirin hint I raised last time. So thanks for that.
I also feel like an asshole asking you to hold my hand better through these choices; but at the end of the day I guess that kinda is what the mod is? Even if you have to point out the obvious sometimes like "Saying no to sex means no sex".
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My post is a bit messy but it was agreeing with you. Destroying Io lets you see all events for her, its green path and so far that seems to be the correct way to play. It's just unlike most other choices in the game, there's roughly an equal amount of missed dialogue if you don't destroy her, which makes arguing from a "missed content" point kind of wrong wrong.
It's useful to know what's said on both sides of that choice, just like it's useful to know what happens if you had >3000 Ayane affection during 0.46's Post Nut Clarity main event despite most players never having that legitimately.
The only other wrong choice that comes close is not fucking Ami, and that's wrong from a volume perspective too, it's just the ways it handles that choice is also very interesting to look at sometimes, Sel actually creates new images to fill in the gaps on Ami red path and actually tries to sell that the game is breaking because you fucking Ami, instead of a quick little text jab and missing events.
In fact I just did a quick little count on the unique lines after stomachache happens based on the choice. There's almost twice the lines of dialogue for missing stomahache than for seeing it. Even with Theme Hospital, the longer green path scene is offset by the red path intro being 40ish lines to green path's 3.