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Ethrift Studios? More like eGrift Studios. What absolute waste of bytes on the web.
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Says the guy that donates to said "Pirate site".......... I'm sorry, but sites like this are the best way for Devs to be discovered by the masses like us. Without this site, most devs works would die in obscurity; never discovered and never played.
And IF the dev does good work and makes a good product, we can support them if we wish. How do you think a lot of devs make thousands of dollars a month? Certainly NOT by hiding 60% of their games behind a sleazy paywall.
- Oct 26, 2017
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I think 99% of the developers here would disagree with you. In the big picture, it's extortion.
Can you logically explain why a dev would paywall his game. I don't think you can, and be truthful at the same time.
(The donation was made back in 2018)
Digital media piracy will never stop, so I have accepted that, but that doesn't mean I like it.
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I am smiling ear to ear right now. It is 10:30 P.M. and I really am liking this game.
I think you'd find a surprising amount would in fact NOT agree with you. Especially those doing more niche stuff that isn't welcome on the major storefronts. Devs relying on donations paywall because they feel like they aren't getting enough money. Thing is, if they had a product WORTH the funding, they would draw supporters without having to go to extremes. Not uncommon to see a game in dev that introduces paywalls actually drop off in funding. Becasue that tends to annoy people, even those that would otherwise want to support them. Devs that want to REWARD supporters don't do so by locking significant content behind paywalls. They add smaller stuff, or just put more passion into the product as a whole.
I have no problems with a complete game (or even a WIP) winding up on a storefront at a set, a la carte price. I do see a MAJOR problem with monthly subscription fees for a WIP that often never completes, or even actively chooses to spin it's wheels to sucker money out of people. Especially with multiple levels of subscription tier and significant resource put toward subscription only content instead of just building the overall product to be better.
Even when this site was in it's infancy, devs straight up paywalling a WIP with monthly charges was not the norm. What WAS and pretty much always has been the norm since it became an option for adult indie devs utilizing a donation or subscription service, is to do a 'supporter' and 'free' release, typically with the supporter release being a few versions ahead, and occasionally with some 'bonus' scenes only accessible to supporters. It's never been the norm to paywall significant amounts of content and expect to be successful when seeking ongoing crowd funding for a niche product. The only ones who ever get any level of success pulling that, are the guys with both significant quality behind their work, and other existing products to build up their name. Even then they don't tend to switch from free to paywalled mid-development.
This is especially true when it comes to games utilizing the Illusion games, 3DCG, etc as a base for their visuals, as would be supporters tend to not be as willing to shell out when it comes to repurposed assets from elsewhere. DAZ gets away with it because anyone who's ever tried to use DAZ knows that it gets expensive quick if you aren't making your own assets, and actually creating decent visuals with it is also far more difficult than using Illusion's studio or even 3DCG.
Now we have AI slop added to the equation, which is a new level of 'asking for money for no real effort or talent', and gets even WORSE looks by potential supporters when it comes to paywalled content of ANY kind. In this particular game we have the triple threat of 'major paywalling' 'ai' and 'low effort' when it comes to the actual game development and code, as well as writing.
The majority of digital media piracy comes from those who cannot (or will not anyway) buy the product in the first place. You aren't losing money by those guys giving positive word of mouth as an indie dev seeking ongoing crowdfunding support. Many of those who CANNOT buy at the time, will absolutely turn around and buy when they have the option. The other significant chunk of piracy is what I'd refer to as 'assessment' piracy, which is people wanting to take the car for a test ride before deciding to drop cash on it. If it's worth it, then they turn around and buy it. If not, these people will just delete it and move on. You've also got a degree of moralist piracy out there, which tends to blend the assessment and 'incapable' pirate groups. Those who pirate not because they can't afford or because they don't want to pay, but because they don't want to monetarily support a specific company or business practice or whatever.
Put bluntly, you do not lose sales from piracy, you lose sales from not providing a good enough product/service to make it worth people's money.
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Clicked on this again out of curiosity.
Where do you get off thinking you can put out this level of lazy AI garbage and paywall it up like this? I guess I can't say anything there because it's working. Far be it for me to judge the people who are paying for it because you can use your money however you want but it's not even good writing. It's so braindead and generic, not to mention entirely out of character, for literally everyone.
You can at least get that with other people who have no artistic talent or budget and use AI to supplement that as placeholders with solid writing. This ain't that. The writing's bad, the art is honestly lacklustre even for AI slop, and it's paywalled worse than Luna at the Pub or whatever. Amazing.
Where do you get off thinking you can put out this level of lazy AI garbage and paywall it up like this? I guess I can't say anything there because it's working. Far be it for me to judge the people who are paying for it because you can use your money however you want but it's not even good writing. It's so braindead and generic, not to mention entirely out of character, for literally everyone.
You can at least get that with other people who have no artistic talent or budget and use AI to supplement that as placeholders with solid writing. This ain't that. The writing's bad, the art is honestly lacklustre even for AI slop, and it's paywalled worse than Luna at the Pub or whatever. Amazing.
- Apr 7, 2020
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Hey! Look! This game looks nice, might be fun. I should.. FEMALE DOMINATION. Oh for fuck's sake...
- Jul 26, 2017
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Here's a work around for using edited save files, works for me so shouldnt be a problem for anyone else.
-Go to your tokens folder.
So on windows it is under users/"yourPCusername"/appdata/roaming/renpy/tokens
-Open the "security-keys.txt file.
-Delete the key strings under "singing-key" and "veryifying-Key".
(All that should be in the text file then is "signing-key" and on the next line down, "veryifying-key")
-Close the text file, then right click it and go to properties.
-Change the text file to read only.
Close that and restart the game.
Viola! now the save works.
Been using this website for a long time to edit save files since its super simple.
-Go to your tokens folder.
So on windows it is under users/"yourPCusername"/appdata/roaming/renpy/tokens
-Open the "security-keys.txt file.
-Delete the key strings under "singing-key" and "veryifying-Key".
(All that should be in the text file then is "signing-key" and on the next line down, "veryifying-key")
-Close the text file, then right click it and go to properties.
-Change the text file to read only.
Close that and restart the game.
Viola! now the save works.
Been using this website for a long time to edit save files since its super simple.
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Don't worry, it has both! From what I remember, one of the options is to change the character from their default personality into something more dominating or submissive. So if you don't like female domination, just...don't pick that option, lol.
Or, you can add a .txt file to the game's directory. Call it something like dev_mode. The contents are:
init 999 python:
config.developer = True
config.console = True
This will enable the developer console (shift D) to show variables among other things, and shift O to open the regular console, so you can edit them. Though I haven't found a way to edit the player name...for some reason, when you use the crack, if you name the characters their default names, it changes your character's name as well...
- Jul 26, 2017
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If you use that editor I linked it shows you all the variables, so you don't have to play a guessing game with them. Can just go in and change numbers of everything.
I suppose it's a good thing to have the list and the editor on the same screen. I kinda prefer the dev_mode version, as you can just copy/paste the text file to every game, rather than finding the individual security keys files, but both options are good
- Jul 26, 2017
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I suppose it's a good thing to have the list and the editor on the same screen. I kinda prefer the dev_mode version, as you can just copy/paste the text file to every game, rather than finding the individual security keys files, but both options are good
I know some devs like to make the actual variable a different name than what it's called ingame to fuck with you as well, which is mildly annoying even using that editor.