I never managed to meet Mo no matter how long i worked at the flower shop. Am i doing something wrong?
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- Apr 26, 2021
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You meet Mo at some point in the flower path when you agree to pick Marieke up from school.
- Apr 26, 2021
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I've not got to the end as yet in the new version but no I don't believe that there is any escape once Lizzy is working in Mo's window. She can still continue to work in the flower shop as well but it won't go down the "good" path, however, that would help Lizzy pay Mo and reduce the sex acts in the window.
Once you meet Mo there are some opportunities to avoid the "bad" path by talking to Helen and being shocked at what she says or later when Lizzy is at Mo's place she can go with him (leads to Mo's window with no escape) or stay and try to deal with Faoud. If Lizzy's stats are high enough she can pretend to be a teacher and that's the end of the bad paths. Alternatively if they aren't high enough she can say she's Mo's girlfriend which will lead to a debt to Faoud repaid by making porn movies with Donny or say she's a local prostitute in which case she also gets a debt to repay but once it's paid she can be free. The other alternative is to claim she's a local girl but that leads to random demands for flashing and sex acts from Faoud's gang. Hope that helps. As the Mo window has just been introduced it's possible BurningSun may add an escape in the future...
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- Jan 18, 2020
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Hi JFox1991,
I just tried to recreate this bug, but none of the options teleport me back to the city center? Does this always happen to you? And you mean the public toilet at the Bijlmer area correct?
It happens in the public toilet at the Bijlmer area yes. It also happened again last night but this time was in the Northern area. It does not happen every single time. But enough to notice. Most of the time it happens is when I Put make up at home go out ride the bus to Bijlmer go to public toilet then do the touch up. Then all of a sudden I leave the bathroom and im back in the center area.
I just tried to recreate this bug, but none of the options teleport me back to the city center? Does this always happen to you? And you mean the public toilet at the Bijlmer area correct?
It happens in the public toilet at the Bijlmer area yes. It also happened again last night but this time was in the Northern area. It does not happen every single time. But enough to notice. Most of the time it happens is when I Put make up at home go out ride the bus to Bijlmer go to public toilet then do the touch up. Then all of a sudden I leave the bathroom and im back in the center area.
- Apr 23, 2018
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Hi buringSun,
I have noticed that currently we can keep getting donny beach card event after got his card and went to his studio for first 'big breakthrough', should it be like this or not?
edit: not on model route when this happened, just so you know.
I have noticed that currently we can keep getting donny beach card event after got his card and went to his studio for first 'big breakthrough', should it be like this or not?
edit: not on model route when this happened, just so you know.
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- Apr 26, 2021
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Yep happened to me too (north) but haven't been able to recreate yet...From that is seems to be random. If I come across this again I'll add a saved file...
Also BurningSun I've noticed that when working as a prostitute if Lizzy doesn't find a client when she looks for the another the time doesn't move forward? This makes it very easy to get lots of money (unless her customers pay in kind, bottle etc). Shouldn't the time move forward "say" 1 hour?
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You can get a flyer (random) or meet James at the beach (random) or failing that it'll eventually end up on the notice board in the entrance.
Hi BBZ01,
So far I've not been able to recreate the bug yet. It is no real issue so not going to persue it for this upcoming bug fix much longer.
Yes, the VVV link I've fixed already, Thanks for letting me know though.
Working on an escape for Lizzy once she is working behind the window.
I've tried and I've tried, but on my end I never end up anywhere I am not supposed to be regarding the toilets. Strange.
Time has been added now to the search. Roughly 20 minutes and 1 energy.
hi PinkKOalaPrime,
There will be more.
Hi JFox1991,
Tried approximately 100 times and not been able to recreate it. So strange. I'll keep trying though as there must be some kind of loophole I'm not thinking about for it to happen so often.
Hi HotPotLovers,
Thanks for this. I've fixed it for the bug release that will come out in 30 min or so.
Hi bolondro2,
Not at this time. In the future there will be a way to escape.
Hi Mirondira,
Mo pops up at around 40 Flower EXP (worked 40 days at the store). BUT he only appears if you have agreed to pick up Marieke for Helen. If you haven't then you will not meet him.
Cheers
BurningSun
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BurningSun In case it helps with the missing "highs". Also sometimes the text says (when an alcoholic) that Lizzy has been given a drink which makes her too drunk to put the condom on but instead she gets a bottle of breezer.
Missing text screenshot attached when walking on the beach in a full bikini.
When visiting Madibia's house the 2nd time I get end of content but drank water on the 1st visit?
Came across an error ($trans) walking from the red light district to the city centre.
Plaque spelt incorrectly.
Not sure why (no big deal) but on the new game the condoms marker is shown (top) but not on an old saved game (bottom)?
Missing text screenshot attached when walking on the beach in a full bikini.
When visiting Madibia's house the 2nd time I get end of content but drank water on the 1st visit?
Came across an error ($trans) walking from the red light district to the city centre.
Plaque spelt incorrectly.
Not sure why (no big deal) but on the new game the condoms marker is shown (top) but not on an old saved game (bottom)?
I've attached a saved game and if you load game 2 and go for a walk and meet Summer you'll see the black screen. Also if you have a long nap and meet Summer the relationship stat remains on 14 (as per saved game 2). Hope this helps.
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- May 11, 2021
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Hi,
I just wanted to say thanks for the help in the stuff I was stuck on, and that this is one of my favourite games I have played. There are many great games with the characters get corrupted and 'degraded' but this is one of the few games that truly understands the degradation of the main character. I have played games where the main girl becomes fully corrupted and a slut, but the problem is that they seem to be living in a world where practically every woman is a slut. If everyone is out fucking, than how is it degrading on the main character.
Here however, with some exceptions, Lizzy seems to be the only character who gets herself into these situations, and it is clear she is being used by almost everyone, and the people that would appear to be there for her (librarian and flowershop owner) will realistically lose interest if we do too.
And that is ultimately the best part of this game. It may not be realistic, but it feels real. Like most, the grindwork is beyond annoying, that I almost gave up, but once it comes the pay-off feels earned. It could be as simple as stripping down to the underwear, but it does go further depending on the job you choose, and it the endings feel all the more satisfying.
I also love the stats that appear on the side as they are really helpful. For the best smut, keep the dignity as low as possible, and the liberal as high as possible. Luck can go either way. The game says low morale can also increase the smut content, but I have no idea why. All it does is lower my pay, so I don't bother.
There are a few downsides, but most are minor except for a 2 big ones for me:
1. If you do not go make the right choices, you will be playing forever with no end, and with no smut. I know it may sound weird to say, but I think the good endings should be made first. That way say you make the 'wrong' choices for lizzy, you're not playing for hours with no idea if you going in the more depraved routes. If the happy endings for the library and the flowershop are finished, then at least it allows the players to complete it and start again.
2. This is just a personal fetish for me but I wanted more pissing scenes, including golden showers. I demand more piss drinking! But seriously I know that's not everyone's fetish, so that's something I get why it's not added.
3. Everytime I visit the campfire, it always ends in a pleasant conversation. I always say yes expecting her to get assaulted/raped. (not a big thing but what am I doing wrong to get that wholesome event)
Otherwise this such a fantastic game, I just had to become a patron to support the game, because I think it truly understands the degradation and humiliation of the protagonist, with really satisfying endings on each job. I can't wait to see how the game is when completed and look forward to how the story progresses.
I just wanted to say thanks for the help in the stuff I was stuck on, and that this is one of my favourite games I have played. There are many great games with the characters get corrupted and 'degraded' but this is one of the few games that truly understands the degradation of the main character. I have played games where the main girl becomes fully corrupted and a slut, but the problem is that they seem to be living in a world where practically every woman is a slut. If everyone is out fucking, than how is it degrading on the main character.
Here however, with some exceptions, Lizzy seems to be the only character who gets herself into these situations, and it is clear she is being used by almost everyone, and the people that would appear to be there for her (librarian and flowershop owner) will realistically lose interest if we do too.
And that is ultimately the best part of this game. It may not be realistic, but it feels real. Like most, the grindwork is beyond annoying, that I almost gave up, but once it comes the pay-off feels earned. It could be as simple as stripping down to the underwear, but it does go further depending on the job you choose, and it the endings feel all the more satisfying.
I also love the stats that appear on the side as they are really helpful. For the best smut, keep the dignity as low as possible, and the liberal as high as possible. Luck can go either way. The game says low morale can also increase the smut content, but I have no idea why. All it does is lower my pay, so I don't bother.
There are a few downsides, but most are minor except for a 2 big ones for me:
1. If you do not go make the right choices, you will be playing forever with no end, and with no smut. I know it may sound weird to say, but I think the good endings should be made first. That way say you make the 'wrong' choices for lizzy, you're not playing for hours with no idea if you going in the more depraved routes. If the happy endings for the library and the flowershop are finished, then at least it allows the players to complete it and start again.
2. This is just a personal fetish for me but I wanted more pissing scenes, including golden showers. I demand more piss drinking! But seriously I know that's not everyone's fetish, so that's something I get why it's not added.
3. Everytime I visit the campfire, it always ends in a pleasant conversation. I always say yes expecting her to get assaulted/raped. (not a big thing but what am I doing wrong to get that wholesome event)
Otherwise this such a fantastic game, I just had to become a patron to support the game, because I think it truly understands the degradation and humiliation of the protagonist, with really satisfying endings on each job. I can't wait to see how the game is when completed and look forward to how the story progresses.
Neverending books.
If you reed a book in your room, when you have read 5 chapters the book it´s off. But if you finish your book in the park you can keep reading it in the park and then you can go on negative numbers. The bbok don´t count as finished. I can see -4 chapters to read when I´m in room. .
Not sure if it happens also when you read on the beach.
Also, seems a bit weird that reading a book in the park or beach gives you +1 intel if your intel is 35 or lower, but if you read the same book in your room your intel don´t goes up.
First save shows me, in my room, with a -1 chapter to read. Second save, with a nice -2. The inventory shows 0 books, but I can keep reading. Third save it´s me, in the park. I have just finished the book, 0 chapters to read. Inventory sais I have no books, but notice that the option of keep reading it´s allowed
If you reed a book in your room, when you have read 5 chapters the book it´s off. But if you finish your book in the park you can keep reading it in the park and then you can go on negative numbers. The bbok don´t count as finished. I can see -4 chapters to read when I´m in room. .
Not sure if it happens also when you read on the beach.
Also, seems a bit weird that reading a book in the park or beach gives you +1 intel if your intel is 35 or lower, but if you read the same book in your room your intel don´t goes up.
First save shows me, in my room, with a -1 chapter to read. Second save, with a nice -2. The inventory shows 0 books, but I can keep reading. Third save it´s me, in the park. I have just finished the book, 0 chapters to read. Inventory sais I have no books, but notice that the option of keep reading it´s allowed
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If you finish your book in the beach, you finish it an dissapear. Save 1. And then, If you go to the park you can not read.
If you finish your book in your room, the same. Save 2. And also, if you go to the park then you can not read.
But if you finish the book in the park, you have a book with 0 chapters left, and then you can read it indefinitely, in tha park, in the beach or in your room. Save 3
If you finish your book in your room, the same. Save 2. And also, if you go to the park then you can not read.
But if you finish the book in the park, you have a book with 0 chapters left, and then you can read it indefinitely, in tha park, in the beach or in your room. Save 3
- Sep 12, 2020
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"The scene is a little bit of a shock to you and almost instantly you feel ashamed you are looking at the people and you feel like a voyeur or something. You try to shake the dirty feeling you somehow have hanging over you as you quickly continue your walk towards $trans.
-5 Hygiene -5 Energy -1 Morale -2 Dignity"
Here is this scene, and after it a dead end.
-5 Hygiene -5 Energy -1 Morale -2 Dignity"
Here is this scene, and after it a dead end.
"The shop is closed right now. You take a good look around and you try to make sure to remember the area so you could come back here at another time if you wanted to.
You can now visit the VVV shop in the city center.
-5 Hygiene -5 Energy +1 Morale"
There is no action after this scene.
You can now visit the VVV shop in the city center.
-5 Hygiene -5 Energy +1 Morale"
There is no action after this scene.
Hi BBZ01,
Found one issue regarding the drinks. Hopefully that fixes it
Found the issue with Madiba and fixed it. The original no-drink variation did not progress Madiba's relation properly.
The missing text one is impossible for me to find
Do you have a save from when it happened?Plaque spelt correctly now.
The image shows no condom icon on the bottom one
Hi bolondro2,
Found the issue. The reading on the towel in the park was the culprit. Fixed in the next version.
Shadez4211,
No walkthrough atm. There is basically no real order of events. 'Cut your own path,' Sam would say (movie quote). But feel free to ask stuff here on the forums and me or others will help you out I'm sure.
HI Forca,
Both of these fixed in the upcoming bug release version which I will release in the next hour or so (This time for realz!)
Cheers
BurnigSun
Hi sin138,
Thank you very, very much for that nice and insightful post. I'm so happy to hear you feel like I've done it right. This wa basically my goal when I started making the game many years ago (ugh... that sounds bad haha. Never had the intention to make something so big or so endless. Never realized it would take so long to build either. Eye-opener!).
I hope I will stay on track with each addition and I hope that you and others will keep coming here to help me stay on course.
Some info on Morale: Yes it is a true helper for income. No doubt about it. It is basically the main driver whenever Lizzy gets her pay check. BUT it is also important in many other situations. Below two random examples:
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Hhmm yes you are right. These good options need to be fleshed out sooner rather than later. I have (or should have) made notes so the player should see that the current path is finished. But by that time it has been a long journey and possibly discouraged some players. I get that.
I will include more of those events and I intent to give people the option if they want to see it or not in one of the next future updates. There is a scene you may not have seen yet. Bianca in the beach when Lizzy is having a nap in the nude. Do you know about that one?
The campfire is a little harder to trigger. Make sure that A) Lizzy is drunk (75% or more) and B) hope for a good roll of the dice. The easier you play difficulty wise, the harder it is to get hard events. In this particular case, if you play on hard a Random variable is set to a random number between 0 and 100. If you play on super easy, that number is set to any number between 0 and 30.
Now if Lizzy is drunk enough (75% or more) the following check is done: Is the random number higher than Lizzy's current Luck? If the answer is yes, then the bad event triggers. If it is a no, nothing happens. As you can see, the harder the difficulty setting, the higher the random number can be. On the hardest difficulty it can even be the number 100 and that number means it will almost always trigger.
Hope the above has helped you a little bit to understand some of the mechanics.
If you have any other questions or remarks, PLEASE do not hesitate to mention them. I will always read it and will always check if I can implement something or change if needed.
Cheers
BurningSun