Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[TheeSonus]

If I make a discord for any potential game, or continuation of this game, how would I go about spreading it? I don't think I can just post a discord link in here.

I wouldn't put a discord link here, but if you were to make your own thread of your own game, I doubt anyone would complain about you posting a link to that thread here. Then from that thread, you could of course put a discord link in there as a way to contact the dev or something along those lines.

I've never done that, how would I go about that?

I'd say make a thread in General Discussions or Off-Topic since the hypothetical game in this scenario isn't a thing yet. Most likely General Discussions.
If you're serious about making it, you could make a thread in Development.
Once said hypothetical game DOES become a thing (if it does), you would make a thread for it in Game Requests then apply for a dev tag and ownership of that thread.

 

[BooringSeeker]

Just make a new game and change virtually all the names of the assets. They can't sue you for a (better) idea.

We just need a programmer with a Russian passport. I've heard that the Russians now do not recognize the intellectual property rights of EU/USA citizens, so if Inno somehow manages to sue him there, the court will just send her to fk out.

 

[Airell]

I never imagined seeing this game with the abandoned tag. I remember the first release of the game, this was some years before I became a dev. Who would have thought it would end like this... This level of neglect.

 

[Arkus86]

I don't think Inno would just let me continue making the game even if I'm not making money off it. Her whales would likely come after me, and I just really don't want that. I want to continue the game, and on several occasions I have asked Inno if I could finish or work on certain characters that have been abandoned (like the Angel in the mall), but I have only been met with dismissals like "The writer said no one else should write them/the writer might come back/I'll do it eventually" or nothing at all.

Honestly, with how bad the game's code apparently is, the best (and safest) option here is to take the idea behind the game and systems, and start from scratch anyway, rather than trying to wrangle with the existing convoluted mess.
She can copyright the code, the story, the design, but not the idea. You would just have to come up with your own story, or a different enough spin on the existing story.

 

[Sarkath]

Why don't you try modding Degrees of Lewdity? Or work on vanilla DoL to help Vrelnir. The code for it is pretty well defined, and it's an HTML game so it's far easier to work on.

I dunno, I found DoL to be pretty messy. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that the devs have to bend Twine/Sugarcube to their will in order to make sure that it doesn't break and lose its state.

Honestly, with how bad the game's code apparently is, the best (and safest) option here is to take the idea behind the game and systems, and start from scratch anyway, rather than trying to wrangle with the existing convoluted mess.

^ This.

It's not really worth the risk to continue LT, IMO. If it were under a proper FOSS license, sure, but continuing it as-is opens you up to the potential for C&Ds. I think you'll also be more likely to find people willing to contribute, given how much of a mess LT's code is. Refactoring it would take just as much work as starting a new project, as much of the rough bits are buried several layers deep.

Also, for the love of $deity, make sure you know how to 1) code, 2) structure projects, and 3) plan projects before tackling something like this.

 

[Zazislazy]

I dunno, I found DoL to be pretty messy. I think a lot of that has to do with the fact that the devs have to bend Twine/Sugarcube to their will in order to make sure that it doesn't break and lose its state.



^ This.

It's not really worth the risk to continue LT, IMO. If it were under a proper FOSS license, sure, but continuing it as-is opens you up to the potential for C&Ds. I think you'll also be more likely to find people willing to contribute, given how much of a mess LT's code is. Refactoring it would take just as much work as starting a new project, as much of the rough bits are buried several layers deep.

Also, for the love of $deity, make sure you know how to 1) code, 2) structure projects, and 3) plan projects before tackling something like this.

I certainly have at least 2 of those handled

 

[Zazislazy]

Honestly, with how bad the game's code apparently is, the best (and safest) option here is to take the idea behind the game and systems, and start from scratch anyway, rather than trying to wrangle with the existing convoluted mess.
She can copyright the code, the story, the design, but not the idea. You would just have to come up with your own story, or a different enough spin on the existing story.

Already have a basic idea down for a story, as stated in my listed thread

 

[Yeppers34]

So games abandoned is there any updates on subscribe star or discord. Also since it's abandoned is it free game for someone else to work on it
(I'm not offering just curious)

 

[Aazkaal]

Also since it's abandoned is it free game for someone else to work on it
(I'm not offering just curious)

"Abandoned" is just the internal tag for this site, for games which spent too long without either updates or news about upcoming updates; it has no power on anything.

 

[sliskal]

I usually enter this thread every couple of months to see what's Innoxia's latest excuse for not releasing a new version and imagine my surprise when I see the "Abandoned" tag

 

[AnatolTheVol]

Been quietly following this thread since maybe ~600 pages ago and I can't believe Inno managed to miss the token "I'm depressed but I'm still working on this I promise" update enough times to earn the Abandoned tag

 

[Sant3224]

LMAO NOT THE ABANDONED TAG

 

[johnysanchez01]

Degrees of Lewdity is a decent game gimped by Twine/Sugarcube. Having to control each limb and orfice manually for scenes using a UI made in Twine feels awful and I suspect the only reason why people tolerate it is because they're driven by coomerbrain.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

LILITH'S THRONE HAS BEEN TAGGED AS ABANDONED
DOMINION HAS FALLEN
BILLIONS MUST BE TRANSFORMED INTO CATGIRLS

 

[Axvz]

Degrees of Lewdity is a decent game gimped by Twine/Sugarcube. Having to control each limb and orfice manually for scenes using a UI made in Twine feels awful and I suspect the only reason why people tolerate it is because they're driven by coomerbrain.

You can create your own sets of actions in the orphanage or somewhere else. Also you don't to use every single part of your body in every encounter, so..
The only issue I have with DoL is that Vrelnir will never give player chance to turn the tables even though current narrative is kinda forcing this option. MC can be a damn demon, pay hundreds of thousands to fund some infrastructure in the town, be the most famous person in said town for many reasons, including their fighting skills and still unable to do anything but trying to avoid bad people. Meh.

 

[TheFreakyOne]

LILITH'S THRONE HAS BEEN TAGGED AS ABANDONED
DOMINION HAS FALLEN
BILLIONS MUST BE TRANSFORMED INTO CATGIRLS

I had hope for this game.
It's so over

 

[johnysanchez01]

You can create your own sets of actions in the orphanage or somewhere else. Also you don't to use every single part of your body in every encounter, so..

I know, but it still feels clunky even if you use those customizations. And while you don't need to control every part of your body you still to constantly monitor most of your body parts if you want to make certain actions happen with any sort of consistency. The whole gameplay loop just feels slower and more tedious than other games with similar systems.

Like you alluded to, it's part of a larger problem where the player character is always going to be on the backfoot regardless of ability.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

Genuinely, though, I wonder how long this Abandoned tag will stick for. Is this what's needed to bait out a sign of life from the developer and get her to rush out some patch (or maybe just say anything), or will she not care?

 

[Fizel]

Now I kinda wanna take bets for how long until Inno rolls themselves from the void with anther excuse.
Cause I'm honestly on the train of thought it'll be soon and thus this thread will all collectively scream in disappointment that they re-emerged.

 

[TheeSonus]

Suppose this is the part where we say "Sic Semper Tyrannis" or something along those lines?
Well, at any rate, I was here, and so were the rest of you.