penusbatt

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Patreons have money to throw at Inno? Good for them.

We get free stuff after 6 months or w/e? Yay free stuff!

Inno just needs to look at local AI image and LMM scenario generation that's what textbase games are heading.
 
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Anonymousnone

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There's just a problem with that: the devs of the other mod are having some severe problems irl, so the chances of any more updates are very small to nonexistent. EmDotRand talked about this here:
welp, I'll still wait and see where it goes, if it truely ends up dead then so be it. It was fun while it lasted
 
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Skooky

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Patreons have money to throw at Inno? Good for them.

We get free stuff after 6 months or w/e? Yay free stuff!

Inno just needs to look at local AI image and LMM scenario generation that's what textbase games are heading.
I wanna put my two cents on this as someone who fucks with them semi-regularly:

Local LLM hosting faces two problems: limited context size and power requirements.
Basically, in order to have a good model you need power; the current mid tier open source LLMs require the tippy top of what is available to the customers, with the best models (the ones with 70B+ training prompts) basically being locked behind whole operations, like those subscription services you see around or huge industrial tier computer labs like OpenAI or Google.
At the same time, the AI can only 'remember' a limited amount of stuff before it starts making shit up. So if you're playing, lets say an AI based LT, and you enslaved a guy named Pete but then went to do other shit, by the time you returned to Pete the AI does not remember it anymore. There's currently a few models that address this; OAI's GPT models and Google Gemini, and they do so by having a dynamic context limit, which basically reads the entire thing and generates keywords for certain things that happen in context. This requires an immense amount of processing power and no singular person alive that isn't some arabic prince can afford it.
So then you're faced with the alternative of always online porn games, which need either a subscription model or to have sponsors keeping them afloat, and as we know, people with money think porn is icky - especially when it comes to uncensored AI. Plus the privacy concerns of sending your smut to someone you don't know who may be selling your shit to third parties to keep their project alive. At any rate, in both cases, no computer savvy writer doing their first project in Godot or Java is going to be able to pull such a thing out.

So yeah, unless we find a way to have futuretech GPUs with unlimited VRAM and CPUs with unlimited processing power, or some way to superquantize AIs so they can run anywhere, we're not getting that anytime soon.
 
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Cat Boy

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can't start game if i click anything after it starts up it will not do anything [edit] i downloaded from a different link and it fixed it
 
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Kionatria

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Intercourse with your family members is painfully slow, including Lilaya. One scene needs at least thirty secs to switch to another, if not even more, and if that family member is a demon hybrid.... it takes almost ten irl minutes to finish, with everyone satisfied. Sex with slaves is fine, but slave and a family member is still very slow.
 

jfmherokiller

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other issues on top of that include you are putting a lot of work on the users shoulders which many may not understand how to setup such a thing nevermind prompt correctly.

For probably a large amount its easier to pay somone like inno to make a game (even with all the issues that entails) then to try to fight with some kind of ai. (not to mention all the privacy concerns)

TLDR: which seems easier, fight with midjourny or such to make good furry/hentai porn or to just open e621/ehentai?
TLDR2: which seems easier in this instance, fight with a lewd LLM model for porn stuff, or just play liliths throne/another text game?
 

retardo

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don't get too excited, i hear there's a big case of cancaidrpes going around that targets porn game devs specifically.
 

penusbatt

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I wanna put my two cents on this as someone who fucks with them semi-regularly:

Local LLM hosting faces two problems: limited context size and power requirements.
Basically, in order to have a good model you need power; the current mid tier open source LLMs require the tippy top of what is available to the customers, with the best models (the ones with 70B+ training prompts) basically being locked behind whole operations, like those subscription services you see around or huge industrial tier computer labs like OpenAI or Google.
At the same time, the AI can only 'remember' a limited amount of stuff before it starts making shit up. So if you're playing, lets say an AI based LT, and you enslaved a guy named Pete but then went to do other shit, by the time you returned to Pete the AI does not remember it anymore. There's currently a few models that address this; OAI's GPT models and Google Gemini, and they do so by having a dynamic context limit, which basically reads the entire thing and generates keywords for certain things that happen in context. This requires an immense amount of processing power and no singular person alive that isn't some arabic prince can afford it.
So then you're faced with the alternative of always online porn games, which need either a subscription model or to have sponsors keeping them afloat, and as we know, people with money think porn is icky - especially when it comes to uncensored AI. Plus the privacy concerns of sending your smut to someone you don't know who may be selling your shit to third parties to keep their project alive. At any rate, in both cases, no computer savvy writer doing their first project in Godot or Java is going to be able to pull such a thing out.

So yeah, unless we find a way to have futuretech GPUs with unlimited VRAM and CPUs with unlimited processing power, or some way to superquantize AIs so they can run anywhere, we're not getting that anytime soon.
Yes you need a beefy computer atm but next gen you might not. Anyway I see the potential from my own experience with local LLM and SD models, I can see it working but you need some programmer wizardry adn Inno is more the... troll smash. Also VRAM is cheap, companies are just greedy.
 
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Only in the rarest of instances is the [Abandoned] tag an official notice from the developer of a game, it's usually just set by the F95 moderation team whenever a game has gone a long while without updates and/or without any communication from the developer.

In the case of Lilith's Throne, both of those parameters could apply at any given time given the sparse update schedule and the... nature... of the developer.
IMO, The ON HOLD/HAITUS tag needs to be used more liberally for games like this that have 6+ month release schedules just to set the expectation. Or maybe f95 could add a field for average time between updates? Nothing more annoying than starting an awesome game and subbing on patron/substar to follow/support and seeing the average dev cycle is 5 months. Then again Devs like Inno pad 'updates' by releasing 3 lines of dialog with 1 npc and 28 new sex positions 2 people on discord asked for with the brand new Turtle-race:HideThePain: while not progressing actual story content for I believe 4 years now
 

bluefish69

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im back again just to ask how far the Main Story have progressed. We got to meet another sister or still stuck with only 2 locations, side village in the far left and capital? or was something new added?
 
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CaptainBipto

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how do i bring the doll home
It works a lot like purchasing/capturing normal slaves and moving them to a slave room in the mansion.

Once you have gotten permission from Lilaya and purchased the Doll, go to an empty room and add a Doll Closet.
Now you can go to slave management (manage people) and move the Doll to that room.

Honestly, the Dolls are not really worth it. Unless you want a generic female doll, you can spend something like 250k flames, plus 1 million flames for the special box to transform them.
I can buy a futa centaur demon from the slave market for that, have a ton of money left over, and achieve the exact same result.
Intercourse with your family members is painfully slow, including Lilaya. One scene needs at least thirty secs to switch to another, if not even more, and if that family member is a demon hybrid.... it takes almost ten irl minutes to finish, with everyone satisfied. Sex with slaves is fine, but slave and a family member is still very slow.
The quick sex button is your friend in those situations.

Once you have had your fun and gotten your rocks off once or twice, go to the first tab and click the quick sex button and it will finish the scene for you. The button might be on 'Page 2' of that first tab, so click the arrow on the right side and all the other options should appear.
 
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