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MSGTNP

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Also, fair enough to the people who say Inno isn't as bad as that crazy mother fucker who can't take even a ouch of constructive criticism. I don't even know how someone like him even exists.
 
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EmDotRand

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I'l ask again - anyone know where to get mods that isn't discord?
And once again, there's . I'm trying to figure out how I managed to not get banned from discord despite basically shit posting under the guise of giving suggestions.
 

jonj4769

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God I wish this would get an apk release or something... I've looked into installing it on a Steam Deck via their discord but a Linuxbro I am not.
 

anubis1970

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God I wish this would get an apk release or something... I've looked into installing it on a Steam Deck via their discord but a Linuxbro I am not.
Good luck with an apk version. It's so poorly optimized that it causes PCs to stall. It would cause your average android phone to melt.
 
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jonj4769

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Good luck with an apk version. It's so poorly optimized that it causes PCs to stall. It would cause your average android phone to melt.
Eh, I need an excuse for a new phone anyway... ;^)
I can only imagine the loading times on Android though, yeah... it's why I started looking into the Steam Deck briefly.
 

DeltaDuster

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Eh, I need an excuse for a new phone anyway... ;^)
I can only imagine the loading times on Android though, yeah... it's why I started looking into the Steam Deck briefly.
It doesn't matter how much phone hardware you throw at this game. The game is simply poorly optimized. I have a 5600X at 4.5GHz and 64GB of DDR4-3200 running on an NVME SSD and even it struggles because the problem is not one that can be solved by better hardware.
 

Loliphile

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It doesn't matter how much phone hardware you throw at this game. The game is simply poorly optimized. I have a 5600X at 4.5GHz and 64GB of DDR4-3200 running on an NVME SSD and even it struggles because the problem is not one that can be solved by better hardware.
This is due to a huge variety of issues with her "practice / methods"
1.) Storing all the Dialogue in Strings rather than a text file (which also makes translation nigh-impossible)
2.) Re-initializing many things that don't need to be, including some strings being initialized multiple times because they're stored in a reused class. Those strings could just be static and improve performance 3-8%
3.) Lack of Threading for tasks that could easily be threaded (Daily / Hourly NPC updates), Loading NPCs, Saving/Loading
4.) A poor grip on base functionality of java causing her to make variables called "javaMadeMeDoThisExcuse" to work around a simple misuse of object. ETC...



That's why with just a IntelliJ IDEA Function of "Optimize Code" which deals with simple issues for you, gave +15-20% performance alone. Among other small scale changes I made her code perform quite a bit better.

The rewrite branch of the project managed nearly 200% performance gains and a 50% cut in memory usage. However it was a pain to maintain (updating LT's latest code and fixing it) so I dropped it.

If Innoxia let me I could get it to compile 5x faster, run 2x better, with half or less memory footprint in 1 big commit. Or several smaller area specific commits, but she practically refuses assistance.

Edit : I have talked to her in DMs about this, she's not too keen on someone else taking a rake to her code.

She seems content on just blaming Java itself, rather than blaming her lack of Java understanding. There is a reason Java is used in high end projects like Chemistry software, it's really good at managing data.
 

Spenser4

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Seems like extreme pampering from her patreons are so much worse than i imagine. If there more valid criticism from subs, maybe there was be stimulus to be better at coding and with schedule in general. Oh well.
 
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dooka58

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This thread is unreadable. I come back after several years, and you all are still complaining about the same exact shit regarding the developer. While I agree that there were major issues, it never stopped me from enjoying the game. (Edit: I just remembered having trouble with the old java version on linux, so that did actually prevent me from playing for a while.) I understand that some of you have a stronger opinion about this, but can't you see getting upset about it (for years) won't change anything?

If you couldn't spare the time to maintain a fork, then what makes you think working together is going to turn out any better? I've worked on projects where everyone chipped in, but I don't think this is one of them. There's been instances where I felt like I was constantly undoing and redoing others' work and re-configuring the process would have torpedoed the whole project. If you finally convince her to rewrite the game, she might disappear for an entire year and eventually drop the project.

To someone more proficient, it probably seems like no big deal and very easy, but some people are extremely stubborn and wasting your time trying to move them is futile.
 
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I understand that some of you have a stronger opinion about this, but can't you see getting upset about it (for years) won't change anything?
No one is really that upset, it's more like "point and laugh"

If you finally convince her to rewrite the game, she might disappear for an entire year and eventually drop the project.
As if she hasn't dropped already lol, she already dissapears for what's more or less an entire year.

It's been literal years since Elis got added and only after what? 3 or so years we finally reach the stage before it's conclusion? half of the Elis characters have unfinished content (The Goat guys, the Owl woman, the VIP room on the shady bar, Youko, everything regarding the Slave mechanic including backgrounds and the special slave things for Brax and Scarlet, the Church), hell last addition which were the dolls was actually from a mod no?
 

AlexTorch

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It's been literal years since Elis got added and only after what? 3 or so years we finally reach the stage before it's conclusion? half of the Elis characters have unfinished content (The Goat guys, the Owl woman, the VIP room on the shady bar, Youko, everything regarding the Slave mechanic including backgrounds and the special slave things for Brax and Scarlet, the Church), hell last addition which were the dolls was actually from a mod no?
I asked her if we would be able to have multiple dicks on our character, she said "Yes, I'm planning on adding that later on, but it will probably be limited to a maximum of 2 penises"
She said that 4 years ago...
 

Loliphile

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I asked her if we would be able to have multiple dicks on our character, she said "Yes, I'm planning on adding that later on, but it will probably be limited to a maximum of 2 penises"
She said that 4 years ago...
Technically the second penis code skeleton is in there, and from what I can tell partially functional, just unfinished AF.
 

TheeSonus

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Technically the second penis code skeleton is in there, and from what I can tell partially functional, just unfinished AF.
You know I have to be honest, I wasn't expecting to read "second penis code skeleton" when I woke up today.
I wasn't expecting to read it ever, quite honestly.
Yet here we are.

I know what you mean, but god does it sound so fucking bad out of context.
 

AlexTorch

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Technically the second penis code skeleton is in there, and from what I can tell partially functional, just unfinished AF.
The "code" is there for almost 3 years if i'm not wrong, but still, 3 years and nothing...maybe is not something that she can code well and now is left on the limbo forever...
 
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