Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.11.3 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[Sarkath]

Anyone know if it's possible at all to play this on Android? It takes a lot for me to like a game and this just seems exactly what I want. I've tried on Joiplay but everytime I lunch it, it just exits by itself. Anybody knows any other ways?

Even if you could get it to run (you'd need a Java 8 JRE with JavaFX support—Joiplay doesn't provide that, and I'm not sure if there are any prepackaged solutions that do), the UI is extremely desktop-centric. You'd need a tablet with a stylus or mouse for the best experience, since the buttons would likely be too small for a phone screen with touch.

On top of that, the game engine isn't all that well optimized. You'd need a pretty high end device (at least 4GB of RAM, I'd wager) to play it comfortably to the mid-game and beyond, and you'd likely run into some pretty nasty lag spikes.

I wouldn't recommend it, to be honest. Things might change down the road, but I don't think mobile was ever on the roadmap for LT.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Man i wish the dev would create templates for all jobs somewhere so i woudn't need to fucking manually configure each and every damn slave separately. Ugh...
Templates for permissions, for jobs, maybe even for gear.. would make this game much less of a chore.
Actually with so much customization it's pretty nuts that we don't have them for anything other than enchanting.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

what exactly does furry hair/scaly hair settings do exactly. does it FORCE scalies/furrys to have human hair or does it FORCE them to NOT HAVE human hair (when toggled on)

Furry hair/scaly hairs control whether furries/scalies can have head hair at all, or if they're "bald" in the sense of not having human-styled hair and thus look more like animals. I'd imagine that they can still roll bald with it on, but I play with it off so I haven't checked.

 

[Harel]

You could follow the story to turn into a (half?) demon, or you can use a number of events including the slime transformation which can shapeshift. Neither is easily reversible to my knowledge, without the debug menu anyway.

But why would you not use potions? Enchanting is trivial to unlock, essences can be bought from the weapon/magic shop if you can't be bothered to farm them and the base items can even be bought at a discount. The cheap ones (or free wetness effects from the water magic perk) even generate an absurd net profit from selling the potions.

Becoming slime is easily reversible if you enchant a 'slime quencher' to turn you back into meat. As a slime, you can take any form, so far as I can tell, then you just turn yourself back to meat form. Just take care not to have any Angel or Demon parts, and you can then be whatever you changed yourself into. You'll have to go to Kate and change your coverings and skin colors, since they appear to be randomly chosen on shifting to back to meat form, but it's relatively simple. (To my knowledge, no Angel or Demon parts transfer back into your meat form, so you get human bits to replace them, even though you can get the parts in slime form)

 

[PerpetuallyAmiss]

You can basically max both obedience and affection in three days by giving any slave the breast use fetish and sticking them in the milking room all day.

No idea on the histories question, never cared to try. But you can basically edit your save file to modify your stats to whatever the fuck you want, so you could just go wild and give yourself whatever perks and stats you want

I see perks, but stats I can change are limited to what can be done with "Buggy", as well as health and such. I don't seem options like spell efficiency, resist, or crit power. Not that their needed though spell efficiency certainly be nice, just checking if its more extensive than I'm seeing?

 

[Bocoboco]

By the way, there's a progress update on the git.

Hello again,


I'm really sorry about how long it's taken me to get this preview build released, and that it's not a public update (as I didn't want to put out a public update with so much placeholder content still in it). As mentioned in a previous post, I got carried away while adding the first NPC to Elis's shopping precinct, and the implementation of what should have been a small, simple side quest ballooned out into a whole new area with several types of content.


If you decide to build this version, please be aware that there is a lot of placeholder dialogue in it! I'll get the writing finished for the next update, which will be the public release of v0.4.2.


I'm feeling quite exhausted right now, so I'll likely take the next couple of days off to try and rest and get some energy back. I'll get v0.4.2 out to you as soon as I can, which I'm hoping will be some time around a week from now.


Thank you all again for your patience, and I'll see you again in the next post, which will likely be early next week.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

By the way, there's a progress update on the git.

She can't handle this game solo, period.
It's obvious. There's coding, there's writing, and there's art.
Luckily she can order art from other people but judging from what i've seen in the game so far there ain't much ordering going on, the art is rather shit to be honest.
She could probably order the writing too to shrink her workload but i doubt there is much of that going on, either.
If i was in her shoes i'd probably delegate the coding and the art and focus on writing the story if i wanted this game to be exacly MY way like she seem to want.
I can't decide whether it's greed or foolishness that guides her actions.
........................ Oh well!

 

[;KFW;LKF;WL]

She can't handle this game solo, period.
It's obvious. There's coding, there's writing, and there's art.
Luckily she can order art from other people but judging from what i've seen in the game so far there ain't much ordering going on, the art is rather shit to be honest.
She could probably order the writing too to shrink her workload but i doubt there is much of that going on, either.
If i was in her shoes i'd probably delegate the coding and the art and focus on writing the story if i wanted this game to be exacly MY way like she seem to want.
I can't decide whether it's greed or foolishness that guides her actions.
........................ Oh well!

Should of used Kotlin if she wanted to use a Java base or Used something like Python instead of using just Java so she could focus more on the gameplay and story and instead of debugging code and trying to worry about bugs all the time.

 

[DirtyMare88]

She can't handle this game solo, period.
It's obvious. There's coding, there's writing, and there's art.
Luckily she can order art from other people but judging from what i've seen in the game so far there ain't much ordering going on, the art is rather shit to be honest.
She could probably order the writing too to shrink her workload but i doubt there is much of that going on, either.
If i was in her shoes i'd probably delegate the coding and the art and focus on writing the story if i wanted this game to be exacly MY way like she seem to want.
I can't decide whether it's greed or foolishness that guides her actions.
........................ Oh well!

What's her financial stake in this, is she just not wanting to split it with a coder or what. If she's working for free then it makes even less sense, aside from wanting to retain control and directive of it.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

What's her financial stake in this

Nobody is quite sure.

is she just not wanting to split

Possibly.

If she's working for free

She earns about 7k$ per month if i remember right, from her patrons.

wanting to retain control and directive of it.

Both of which should still be quite possible if she gives competent instructions to whoever she'll choose to delegate work to.
One thing is clear to me, she can't do this alone no matter how badly she wants to otherwise we'll all be old men by the time this game is done.
Provided of course the patrons won't get sick of waiting all the time and stop supporting, then it could be possible that the game won't ever be done.
Not by her at any rate, maybe some modders will pick it up.

 

[DirtyMare88]

Nobody is quite sure.

Possibly.

She earns about 7k$ per month if i remember right, from her patrons.

Both of which should still be quite possible if she gives competent instructions to whoever she'll choose to delegate work to.
One thing is clear to me, she can't do this alone no matter how badly she wants to otherwise we'll all be old men by the time this game is done.
Provided of course the patrons won't get sick of waiting all the time and stop supporting, then it could be possible that the game won't ever be done.
Not by her at any rate, maybe some modders will pick it up.

I don't think that'll happen anytime soon. For as emotional drained as she acts in the blog post you would think she is getting some criticism from somewhere, but I think that's all internal. I checked out the discord for a while and it's become an emotional hugbox echo chamber, not surprisingly. So i'd wonder how far beyond it and her blog and such she is going in the criticism department. Not that I want to kick her in the emotional teeth, I do really like the game, it's just obviously too much for one person at this point.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

you would think she is getting some criticism from somewhere

I doubt her patrons are very amused with the quality of her work.
And can you blame them?
Delays and "i need rests" literally all the time even though this supposed to be her full-time job if one of the support goals at her sub-star account is to be believed. (Which is achieved, and is at 2,5k$ if i remember right.)

not surprisingly

Indeed.

I want to kick her in the emotional teeth

Emotional or not, it's her job.
She isn't paid for her mood swings.
Patrons want their money's worth in the form of progress with the game, and there hardly been any by the looks of things.
Or at least, definitely not nearly as fast as her employers want her to pump that content out.

I do really like the game

As do i but i totally get the people who are, shall we say, less than pleased with her performance.
And indeed she needs to delegate, the sooner she gets that, the sooner everyone will be happy.

 

[Dr.Feelgood]

I doubt her patrons are very amused with the quality of her work.
And can you blame them?
Delays and "i need rests" literally all the time even though this supposed to be her full-time job if one of the support goals at her sub-star account is to be believed. (Which is achieved, and is at 2,5k$ if i remember right.)

There's a reason why she disabled comments on her blog. While some of the stuff said there was plain ol' uncalled for... most of it was genuine criticism. Her 'forgotten' promise to reinstate comments after the 4.0 update doesn't do her much favors in the PR department. Also, something tells me that any dissenters on the Patron exclusive discord are unpersoned before anything they say can gain traction.

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Her 'forgotten' promise to reinstate comments after the 4.0

Oh, so there was something like that too huh.
Hah.

Also, something tells me that any dissenters on the Patron exclusive discord are unpersoned before anything they say can gain traction.

Could be, from everything i've seen people say about her and her dealings, she doesn't strike me as trustworthy.

 

[Harel]

I see perks, but stats I can change are limited to what can be done with "Buggy", as well as health and such. I don't seem options like spell efficiency, resist, or crit power. Not that their needed though spell efficiency certainly be nice, just checking if its more extensive than I'm seeing?

Not all the stats are listed in a character's entry in the save file, since many of them use default, usually calculated, values when not present in the file. Simply find the correct attribute name, and you can then add it to any character's attributes in the save file. Looking through the source code can help find things (Attributes.java).

RESTING_LUST, CRITICAL_DAMAGE, ENERGY_SHIELDING, RESISTANCE_PHYSICAL, RESISTANCE_LUST, RESISTANCE_FIRE, etc. are in the Attributes.java file, and you can add them like you see below.

      <attributes>
        <attribute type="HEALTH_MAXIMUM" value="101.0"/>
        <attribute type="MANA_MAXIMUM" value="101.0"/>
        <attribute type="AROUSAL" value="46.0"/>
        <attribute type="LUST" value="49.5"/>
        <attribute type="MAJOR_PHYSIQUE" value="100.0"/>
        <attribute type="MAJOR_ARCANE" value="100.0"/>
        <attribute type="SPELL_COST_MODIFIER" value="1.0"/>
        <attribute type="VIRILITY" value="1.0"/>
        <attribute type="FERTILITY" value="0.0"/>
     </attributes>

 

[Carl0sDanger]

I can't decide whether it's greed or foolishness that guides her actions.

I lean more towards foolishness as an explanation.

Given the development model, a greedy dev would have rushed to complete some semblance of a v1.0, so that she could essentially charge people (ie. subscribe to vote) to get the content they want in the game. Instead, the game's been continually stalled so that Inno can cater to her Discord.

Inno's not some calculating con artist. She's a first-time dev with a great idea but terrible execution.

 

[Carl0sDanger]

Becoming slime is easily reversible if you enchant a 'slime quencher' to turn you back into meat.

An alternative to enchanting is to get transformed into a slime before encountering any of the Imp patrols guarding the fortresses in Submission. Then, when you loot the Imp patrols, the transformation potion the second Imp carries will be a "slime to flesh" potion.

Fighting a fuckload of Imp patrols is also good for a couple other reasons:

a) Leveling up using Orgasmic Level Drain is faster with multiple opponents.

b) Getting gang-raped by Imps before becoming strong enough to give them a taste of their own medicine is a pretty good way of explaining the MC's sudden descent into depravity.

 

[Sphere42]

b) Getting gang-raped by Imps before becoming strong enough to give them a taste of their own medicine is a pretty good way of explaining the MC's sudden descent into depravity.

I much prefer the version where the MC has always been a closet pervert or at least very curious, and they just naturally discover that indulging feels good and has few if any immediate negative consequences. Zap catgirls with pink lightning for an hour to transform yourself into a winged chimera pyromancer? Sign me up!

 

[♍VoidTraveler]

Inno's not some calculating con artist. She's a first-time dev with a great idea but terrible execution.

Hm, yes, i think i agree with you here.
The game definitely is fun, the story definitely is interesting.
It's indeed the execution that could use improvement.
Well, let us hope that... she'll get this, in time.
I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the rest of the story before i become an ancient old fart.

 

[PerpetuallyAmiss]

RightO, heres what I got so far from poking around after Harel clued me in.

Spoiler: Attributes

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Looking at the fancy history affects, which can't be replicated by editing the save file if I were to guess.