Java Lilith's Throne [v0.4.10.7 Hotfix] [Innoxia]

[BaloneyAmone]

Is the Zweihander the best, no cost to use, melee weapon in the game?
I have always thought that knuckle dusters are the best choice of weapons since they get bonus damage that scales with physique.
Is it because Zweihander has high base damage and so any damage bonus with that scales better?

The damage on the Zweihander is almost always going to be better, mainly since dual-wielding has no real value versus using a two-handed weapon outside of some super uncommon damage type resistance/immunity situations. The knuckle dusters aren't even the best unarmed weapons you can get your hands on; the clear demonstones have better damage than it.
The only circumstances where the Zweihander gets out-muscled is if you're specifically playing a taur/feral, which adds an additional 40 base damage for a total of 60, and/or you're using Cloak of Flame at max level to add another 50 fire damage to your unarmed attacks, which goes over the top of it. For all practical purposes, though, it's significantly cheaper to simply get a Zweihander and then kill 95% of enemies in the first turn with a giant crit, especially since you don't need to reach physique cap to make the most of it.

 

[Elona Spiral]

The damage on the Zweihander is almost always going to be better, mainly since dual-wielding has no real value versus using a two-handed weapon outside of some super uncommon damage type resistance/immunity situations. The knuckle dusters aren't even the best unarmed weapons you can get your hands on; the clear demonstones have better damage than it.
The only circumstances where the Zweihander gets out-muscled is if you're specifically playing a taur/feral, which adds an additional 40 base damage for a total of 60, and/or you're using Cloak of Flame at max level to add another 50 fire damage to your unarmed attacks, which goes over the top of it. For all practical purposes, though, it's significantly cheaper to simply get a Zweihander and then kill 95% of enemies in the first turn with a giant crit, especially since you don't need to reach physique cap to make the most of it.

This is what happens when I put perk points to get the maximum unarmed damage AND melee damage with Physique at 100
It seems at 78 Physique, the Knuckle Duster is on par with the Zweihander, assuming you have all Melee and Unarmed perks, including the one you get from training with Hannah. This is on a human by the way, no other race bonuses.
The benefit of knuckle dusters over the Zweihander is that you can equip a Flashlight in the offhand slot, negating any darkness penalties at night.
The Clear Demonstones do have better damage but their cost is exorbitant (if you don't know how to make money or don't want to game it too much)

Knuckle Duster damage with 100 Physique

Zweihander damage

Knuckle Duster damage with 78 Physique

Opaque Demonstone damage at 78 Physique

Clear Demonstone damage at 78 Physique

 

[BooringSeeker]

Why do we need a Zweihander when there is a shotgun that deals comparable damage, but at five enemies at once? In any battle with a group of opponents, this infernal cannon is head and shoulders above all other weapons in the game. Try it! It is very convenient and fun to annihilate crowds of imps



Char has bonuses of +100% poison and +75% ranged.

 

[Deleted member 6416205]

I'm looking for the Lolith's Throne mod but can't find it, anyone has the link?

 

[EmDotRand]

Why do we need a Zweihander when there is a shotgun that deals comparable damage, but at five enemies at once? In any battle with a group of opponents, this infernal cannon is head and shoulders above all other weapons in the game. Try it! It is very convenient and fun to annihilate crowds of imps

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Char has bonuses of +100% poison and +75% ranged.

I litterally haven't checked my spoils from looting the maniac's hideout for several playthroughs. I never bothered because I already compartmentalised all vanilla ranged weapons as shit and poison damage as shit.

BTW my sig links now go to KeldonSlayer's site as intended.

 

[Rover55]

Is there a way to get SWORD equipment? Preferably without cheats, but if it's the only way then fine

 

[caju]

Is there a way to get SWORD equipment? Preferably without cheats, but if it's the only way then fine

Follow the quests.
You get a quest which gives you a permit to own it.

 

[rwe342342wewe]

I litterally haven't checked my spoils from looting the maniac's hideout for several playthroughs. I never bothered because I already compartmentalised all vanilla ranged weapons as shit and poison damage as shit.

BTW my sig links now go to KeldonSlayer's site as intended.

What innoxia think about Lolith throne is stealing is work

 

[EmDotRand]

What innoxia think about Lolith throne is stealing is work

Not sure I understand what you're asking.

All I know is that Lilith's throne's terms of service makes all code changes and mods Inoxina's property. If tomorrow she decided to grab the word replacement script from Lolith's throne and adapt it to the main game, nothing could be done to stop her. It's slimy as hell imo.

 

[BaloneyAmone]

Anyway, while this is all happening,

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I wonder how many more of these numberless delays it will be before all these collapse into a black hole and devour the entirety of the United Kingdom.

 

[Ryder7689]

I'm kinda incompetent when it comes to modding, sorry, but what do I do with the .jar file and res folder? I'm assuming replace the original res folder but where do I extract the .jar?

 

[GammaXai]

I'm kinda incompetent when it comes to modding, sorry, but what do I do with the .jar file and res folder? I'm assuming replace the original res folder but where do I extract the .jar?

Generally when switching to a new update or new branch like keldon's coremod you want to put the jar and res folder somewhere different and just copy over the data folder from the old to the new if you don't want to create a new character.

Jar files are funky in that if you have java installed they function as an executable bundle which we want to do in the case of lilith's throne.

 

[0nymous]

Is zweihander op? Currently it totally shanks all my enemies

This game is stupidly easy to cheese even on the hardest difficulty except for the very first levels, and even after Innoxia went full NO FUN ALLOWED and decided to add stupid hardcaps on enchanting/buffing items. Then again the last time I played was like 2 years ago (I dare confidently say the game has not changed much in that time).

If tomorrow she decided to grab the word replacement script from Lolith's throne and adapt it to the main game, nothing could be done to stop her.

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[EmDotRand]

This game is stupidly easy to cheese even on the hardest difficulty except for the very first levels, and even after Innoxia went full NO FUN ALLOWED and decided to add stupid hardcaps on enchanting/buffing items. Then again the last time I played was like 2 years ago (I dare confidently say the game has not changed much in that time).


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Alright, what did I miss while under my rock?

 

[0nymous]

Alright, what did I miss while under my rock?

Nothing, it's just that the notion of Innoxia taking a LOLI, as in characters under 18 years old mod and adding its content into the game (even if she has rights technically reserved to do so in theory), is such a preposterous notion that it genuinely made me guffaw IRL.
Innoxia will never acknowledge that it even exists, because even doing that can be interpreted by brave, terminally online vigilantes as a sign of approval.

In fact, I'm in a small awe moderators on F95 allow you to add direct links to it in your signature just like that.

 

[EmDotRand]

Nothing, it's just that the notion of Innoxia taking a LOLI, as in characters under 18 years old mod and adding its content into the game (even if she has rights technically reserved to do so in theory), is such a preposterous notion that it genuinely made me guffaw IRL.
Innoxia will never acknowledge that it even exists, because even doing that can be interpreted by brave, terminally online vigilantes as a sign of approval.

Oh well. I'll just continue enjoying my chat-swap shenanigans.

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In fact, I'm in a small awe moderators on F95 allow you to add direct links to it in your signature just like that.

They make up for it by wiping my posts seemingly at random. The sheer number of "Your post in the thread [THREAD] was deleted. Reason: Off-topic" messages I've gotten is unreasonable.

 

[Starlight.Kitten]

Oh well. I'll just continue enjoying my chat-swap shenanigans.

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What chat swap is that?

 

[EmDotRand]

What chat swap is that?

Lollith's throne's uses a translation script as a rudimentary chatswap. It's great if there's one phrase across all encounters you want to replace, but it ignores context.

 

[Starlight.Kitten]

Lollith's throne's uses a translation script as a rudimentary chatswap. It's great if there's one phrase across all encounters you want to replace, but it ignores context.

Ah, so you just set it up yourself? I've been poking at Keldeon's mod for a while, I knew the chat swap was a thing, I just never considered tossing my own stuff into it.

 

[FeLisk]

This is going to be a big game, huh?
I remember spending a whole week for The Lust Doll, interesting for how long this one will get me