VN - Ren'Py - Lineage or Legacy [Ch.4 Act II] [Biting The Bullet]

> make mom one of the most attractive (and definitely the sweetest) characters in an AVN
> really intimate with MC
> non-romanceable
> incest exist anyways with the sister
> 200 IQ move

⠀⠀Anyways, in reality it's not even that big of an issue right now, since 90% of the cast don't even have any sex scenes yet, but I digress.
⠀⠀2 year timeskip is bullshit. Why establish all these characters and conflicts just to immediately put them on hold for two years worth of training montage? Like what happened with a guy and his birthday party? How did Kaylee react to MC being beaten up right after their cancelled date? What about MC's parents? How did he not talk or meet with anyone in all that time? It feels like the rest of the world was put on pause while my guy was grinding the gym within some kind of space-time bubble anomaly.
⠀⠀Why does the best friend look like a cute tomboy even tho he's a guy? Choice of appearance is weird to say the least, considering that dev doesn't want to include gay content.
⠀⠀One of the characters (Piper) got darker skin tone literally in the same chapter. Although I may be schizo and it's all just the lighting.
⠀⠀Some of MC's peers look past 30 and at the same time his mom who's 40! looks younger than HIM. You know the corny pick-up line when you say you thought that someone's mom is their sister? Well here MC's mom literally looks the same age as his sister.
⠀⠀Sex scenes are good with fluid animations but they're pretty short. Graphics are really nice to the eye overall.
⠀⠀Music is great, though there are no voices or sfx.
⠀⠀I really like the characters (most of them), even tho they've only been just introduced and we don't know much about them yet. They're just so charming and cute in their own way.
⠀⠀Not a huge fan of obscure stat checks. For example if you don't have enough rude point, then you will miss out on a final sex scene of the current version. Like it's completely hidden, I wouldn't even figure it out if it wasn't locked in the gallery. MC behavior is the same and you get to make the same choices. It's not even clear how many points is necessary unless you look into the variables.
⠀⠀It's been years of development and we aren't even past character introduction stage yet, but dev already decided to remake earlier content. Seriously? And why does the gallery contain so many animated scenes that aren't canon or related to plot? Why not spend all that dev time on the actual game itself?
⠀⠀I'm gonna give this a 4 in ADVANCE, but just keep in mind that there's only 4-5 hours of content (as of ch.4 act II) and the dev has been cooking for 3 years already.

Also TWO big smoke order references in a span of one hour? cmon bruh.

Played version: 0.4.2.2 (Chapter 4 Act 2).
Rating: I deliberated over whether giving Lineage & Legacy 4 or 5 stars for a few minutes. I asked myself how Lineage or Legacy compares to other AVN's in general. I concluded that it deserved 5 stars because it not only tries, but largely succeeds in depicting characters who feel "Real" for the duration of their screentime. That and despite a few moderate weak points, it just scores high on almost all objective metrics. A low 5 star rating is what it deservedly gets.

Summary: MC grows up as the oldest of 2 children in a very wealthy family. In the latter years of his childhood he increasingly turns into something of a loser surrounded by said wealth. He is increasingly scorned by his autocratic company head father. The mom on the other hand is extremely supportive, to the point that she might actually have the most destructive influence on MC’s life, by enabling and keeping him stuck in his sedentary gamer lifestyle. An argument with the father happens shortly after MC’s 18th birthday and MC runs away from home to start studying IT in a distant city. MC is still an overweight loser and after a few mildly failed attempts at making new friends and a rough beatdown from a bully, he finally musters the willpower to become a winner, both for his own sake and potentially, depending on our decisions, to show up the father sometime in the future. MC joins a small local gym with self-defense as their specialty. 2 years pass and MC is now quite the hunk and moderately confident. Having mostly just focused on the training for 2 years, he now tries to make friends anew, this time with success and come into far more contact with the ladies. He receives a text from home (mother) and decides to finally go back for a few weeks, meeting new people on the way and getting in touch with his old friend and his family. And that is where the content ends.

Pros: Well-made montages.
- Facial expressions are mostly on point. Good variation, depth and fitting in the situation and mood.
- Mostly great H-animations. Camera angles, positions, clipping, movement smoothness are handled competently. The only awkward aspect is that the looping is a bit more lacking and looks a little unnatural. And as smooth as the animated movements themselves are, they can look just a little bit rigid. They combined result is still plenty good enough to put it in the section for Pros.
- Decent male friend characters and healthy social dynamics with them.
- Overall, LI’s look great and the variety in personalities is fantastic. This technically also means there will almost always be a few that the individual reader won’t like. But that is part of what makes them feel so natural. Out of the 11 “Official” LI’s, I loved 4, liked 5, was interested in 1 and not the last one. There also were at least 2 suspected side-girls that I liked.
- While I am not fond of oversized dongs, I don’t think I have ever seen one looking this good. It even has dynamic foreskin moving back and forth during the H-animations. Is crappy looking dongs just an HS issue?
- This is only a gut feeling, but I believe that L&L might actually do well with the IC content and take that shit seriously, rather than just using it as the milkshake that brings the boyz (consumers) to the yard. I mean, the mother is literally the ultimate beauty, but controversially she is not an LI. The existing Sylvia content is great.

Mehs and hit/miss: Unfortunately, L&L probably has a few too many LI’s for its own good. Only a few characters seem to have more than 1 significant scene or sequence dedicated to them. I think this overextension will keep progress on the slow side.
- Somewhat frequent systematic grammar mistakes: Your/You’re, there/their/they are, how’re, etc.
- Simple and somewhat stiff language? Doesn’t flow naturally (early game comment).
- Many LI’s do not look their age. I’ll group this together with how a few LI’s have somewhat weird looking faces. Not ugly, just “off” in some way.
- The pacing within the H-scenes, as good as they otherwise are, frequently feels a bit rushed. This is spearheaded by the quite short dialogue and the short descriptions seen during the scenes.
- Small observation. Some characters who appear in the gallery are barely present in the actual story. I’m thinking the chick with the silvery-greenish page haircut. She appears briefly in the intro of L&L but then vanishes and we don’t get her name AFAIK. Yet she is prominently featured on the banner of the AVN’s banner.
- I suppose I haven’t played any Daz games in a while because the uncanny valley feel occasionally pops up.
- While the story has good branching and replay value, I can’t help but notice how weird the start of some events feel. The MC will have this strong urge to randomly engage in conversations for no reason.
- Skin texture can look a little weird (goosebumbs, shiny and glasslike, etc.) in some scenes.
- The gallery is highly random in nature. It is split in 2 sections. First the replays (actual ingame scenes) and then the image gallery (which contain plenty of animations in the chapter 4 section instead of still renders).
The replays are obviously unlocked by seeing the actual scene for the first time, but the still renders in the gallery are only related to the actual events of the story about half the time. Maybe less.
- Well, for a project that has been around for a few years, the number of actual H-scenes is a bit low. Now, L&L as a AVN is one of the more serious titles and leans more towards relationships developing natural ways, so it is only fair that half of the main LI’s don’t have sexual encounters yet. We get some options for one-off H-events instead.

Cons: No option to change text speed appearance. Full sentences are shown with each click. I am very used to having the text appear slightly faster than reading it. I would like to see more Renpy functionalities.
- Transitions between different H animations and between animations and still renders are jarring and rough. As good as the H-scenes otherwise are, the stuttering of the transitions can take you out of the action.
- What’s this? Do we have another AVN with an MC who Is exceptionally gifted down below? Yes, we do. Remember guys, you can always trust me to bring this trope up if it applies in the AVN I am reviewing.
- The initial 2-year time skip is a little extreme. A short section 1 year into MC’s education, with him in decent shape, but still with low fighting skills might have worked better than the complete loser-to-winner transformation spanning 2 whole years in a single go. You could have shown him 6 and 12 months into the training regimen, but still basic at self-defense and with his loser-mentality still being halfway present. And later, when he has become a solid fighter, you could show how he left behind most, but not all of his insecurities.
- It also feels like an actual plot hole, with how MC has been attending his IT studies for 2 years and basically hasn’t talked with any of his classmates (Donovan, Kaylee, Fiona, etc.) the entire time. Going no-contact with his family for 2 years is reasonable enough, but it would be nice to see the writing actually explore his thoughts about why he stuck with the decision. Like, halfway through his transformation he would have an opportunity to reestablish contact, but then explaining why he didn’t through some internal monologue.

this is a really good game it really offers innovative ideas in the genre for the discussion choices and consequences the renderings are fantastic as well as the animations it conveys a feeling that the world around mc is alive however there are some passages of the story that are a bit out of place like the the fact that 2 years pass for the change of mc, leaving aside the various adventures of college, I would also have expected choices regarding physical exercise and nutrition in order to give more depth to the game by making the most of the discussion of skills for example that by conducting a specific style of In life there would always be the risk that maybe Mc would go back to being the way he was before, becoming less attractive towards girls. However, the story is interesting. I just hope that the dev doesn't abandon it. It would be a real shame because he's done a really good job so far and I'm happy to have given him a chance. I can't wait for it to be finished and if it ends up on steam for sure and to keep in the library

I really like this game so far and I'm looking forward to further updates, even if I didn't like the ending with Piper. The story is interesting, funny and entertaining and I hope it stays that way.

It sucks, this is a really good game and I really enjoy it but I just cant in good faith give it a 5 star.

Char progression arc is solid. Dialogue feels absolutely natural, it doesnt have that forced, over the top, mindless babble like alot of games end up having. Characters actually have a personality that they stick to, the animations are clean, even the worse ones still outperform alot of other titles though they arent very detailed, the loop is still enjoyable.

That all being said, the reason I just cannot give this a 5 right now is because, why in the good-god-hell did you make the mom the model that you did instead of like FIONA or something? Lmao.
Fiona is 22 and looks like shes 45. Lizzy is 24 and looks like shes 37, Even Savannah whom I liked is 24 and looks WAY older than her age. Dont even need to say anything about Mikaela either.

Then you got the mom who is apparently 39 with the craziest body type available, looking like a whole ass goddess, by far the prettiest face of the whole cast, and even her personality is outright adorable. Legit though, as much as I hate to admit it, the MC's mom is like a single rose sticking out of an apocalyptic wasteland. There ARE some good LI's, I dont wanna be completely unfair, but bruh. What a waste of a perfect model unless theres a planned incest route in which I'd be a little torn on because it would be pure incest.

You also have Alex who is 100% a female model but I've seen this in other titles where they use a super feminine model for a male character. Definitely had my hopes up it was the undercover fem-bro tomboy friend.

But all in all other than that one thing, its a good time.

Your stunning mom beats all other women.

This game is full of "in-t" elements.
The leading heroine who has the most scenes is your sister. She is actually super obsessed with you.
Your mother is beautiful, gentle and dotes on you.


Alpha dad, inheritance, you are also an Alpha rebel.
Mom and sister who are used to being submissive to Alpha. You will inherit these.


There are many "in-t" hints in the game, such as the mother licking the food on her lips and the sister swallowing the chocolate bar in front of the MC.

Is it because of the sales market that "morality" has not been broken yet? Games on the shelves can’t contain incest content, right?

Your "soulmate" you met by chance on the bus already has a boyfriend. I love this part so much.

Anyway, I fucking love this game.

More like a 2 star game in present state but will give an additional star for effort and the models are good.

The writing is weak - there are not really many spelling/grammar issues but word choice is poor throughout the VN and it doesn't read like how anyone would actually talk.

The biggest issue is there are too many characters. Number of characters should have been halved (at least), there are characters just getting introduced in the last update... This is two years into development time and where none of the existing LI have content outside of the scene introducing them.

Player choice does impact both the paths available to the player and how the MC behaves. The attribute system should be removed though, it is unclear what points you will need several scenes after the choice for certain paths. That is just making players reboot a save or start over which is not a good user experience.

This is not a harem game, so you will need to play multiple paths in order to unlock all of the content. Several of the characters are only an option in the game if you pick different characters early on (as in you will not see them in the game at all and even know they are a option)

TL/DR: Fuckin' loved it! Man a modern day Abe Lincoln look-alike in this fun lil zero to hero title. Quite a bit of melodrama in it. MC has some clear goals to pursue. The MC's attitude changes pretty dynamically based on their aggregate actions. Scene content is pretty hot and pretty well animated. Lots of routes still need time to cook- but the chef is prepping them well.

+ Big fan of the montages
+ Lots of differently vibed routes. Big fan of the ones with the "good girl" type characters. (Torrie / Kaylee ) They are well counterbalanced by the other crazier gals as well.
+ Lots of different systems under the hood to manipulate / path.
+ Manages to capture the mental progression of someone who was a fat loser transitioning into a healthier character pretty well.
+ Some great looking petite characters. ( Would love more even shorter ones though. With the exception of Torrie, every chick is 5"6" + ish)
+ The relationships felt meaningful. Even the ones that weren't that serious or that the girl was cheating in felt wholesome for some reason. The characters have good synergy with each-other.
+Looking forward to finding out that Alex is actually a girl and then banging the fuck outta them. You don't get THREE WHOLE separate variables and not have something going on. Nor are you that adorable. That model is more feminine than like 80% of the women in this title.

- Wouldn't have minded being a lil taller. MC is relatively tall, but a lot of the other ( named) male characters are taller still. MC looks great otherwise.
- Not very many routes have had enough time to cook yet / not that many of them have scenes.
- Plot is a bit unfocused. It is very wide- prob will resolve as the game progresses and the different plots get a chance to lengthen.
- It'd be cool if you could get a scene with the Piper- w/o having to go down the rude points / asshole pathing. I'd love to tame that cunt- but with the light-side MC. Seems better for his characterization, than him just turning into a shit-bag after he turned his life around.
- The pacing is a bit too jumpy. I would have liked spending a bit longer as a lil-fat kid in the 1st phase of the game, before transitioning to college, and more time at college before transitioning to home. That shit felt rushed and its hard to develop characterizations well enough when you are rushing like that.

Animation: Stellar quality that improves over time.
Story: A bit roundabout, probably very drawn out too
Scripting: Generally well crafted, rounded characterization makes the art come to life

This is defintely a slow burn game, it takes a while to build the relationship the Dev is aiming for before any action happens. Plus there are plenty of characters with lots of unresolved plotlines right now so I expect this to take a long time to finish. I hope the Dev sticks with it!

So far, so good! Dug the premise and so far the writing has been good enough to retain my interest.

My one slight complaint, which is more a matter of personal preference than anything, is that I don't like when choices are gated behind skill checks. Especially when narratively I don't feel like it makes sense.

Like it took MC two years to get swole and learn martial arts, during which time he managed to defeat his military trained master in a sparring session - which establishes the MC as a pretty tough guy, I'd think. But you're gonna tell me I arbitrarily can't kick this door down because I picked a non-strength option in an earlier scene?

I just don't think these skill checks really add anything.

Like to play devils avocado a sec, I assume the intention is to encourage replays but like... Anyone truly interested in seeing all the content will go back and do so one way or another.

But for guys like me who usually play through a game once, that grows attached to their version of the characters and how things play out - well all the skill checks do is make me frustrated that I can't play the character the way I want without throwing up barriers in later scenes.

Nevertheless - there's good shit here.
Will be keeping my eyes peeled for the next instalment.

This game has become one of my favorites, it's original, the story is engaging and interesting, there are no false choices here, your choices have an effect on the story, whether it's how you treat the characters or how they act towards the MC, the renderings are good and I personally think the aesthetics of the game are very beautiful, the MC is decent and not a whiny loser who complains about everything. The game certainly has a lot of potential.

As of the chapter 4 act II, I can say this vn has a lot of potential but it's rough around the edges, a few grammar mistakes but nothing horrible. Theres some parts where theres music and some where theres not, that's kind of annoying. I know it can be hard to contemplate every possible development a player can have, but theres quite a few times where the mc acts rather off, for example, if you'be been choosing the more kind options and then the mc act harsh of cold (like in the party with Piper or with the sister) it feels kind bad that your choices are kind of unimpactful, wich si sad caus the s.i.c. system is very cool, adds a lot replay value, the renders are very pretty and that's awesome to have since theres a lot of them. I don't know if a harem route it's in the plans, or an incest one, I like that kind of stuff but if the developer is against it then more power to them, I just want to see a good story with cute girls and this vn has a very good chance to be like that.

I think this game would be closer to 4 stars if it weren't for the last update, the only thing I liked about it was the friend's mom, the rest of it was getting railroaded into doing stupid things without having a choice, and the final choice you make has no effect because the same outcome happens. Overall I really like the models, although the MC still has a stupid haircut, it's just less stupid than before. I think this game could use a little bit more choices that matter, like when Piper was asking you to dance, you should have been actually allowed to dance with her.

3 stars for the models and the girls, poor writing and choices drags this game down.

Definitely got the potential to become a top game. Best thing about the game is visuals, great renders and models. Story is engaging. Main character is not asshole he's a good guy. There is no annoying sandbox either. If you love playing a nice visual novel with good visuals and engaging story definitely try this one. It quality is increasing after each updates.

Keep up the good work dev looking forward to next updates.

This game is a hidden gem and after playing this game, it honestly made its way into my top 10 a S tier game to me. Not only is this one of the few MC’s I can say he is awesome but he is super relatable. Which says something for me as when it comes to a MC I don’t really judge most MC’s as I play disconnected from them.

The story is in a weird spot for me right now. While I feel like it’s going to get into the meat of the story soon in the next updates. Chapter 4 kind of felt like a reset of a sort to me when it comes to the story. After going through some changes and the MC himself for the better and spending 2 years at College after 3 chapters of content we go home. Which means all the LI that I liked from the previous chapters are nowhere near us so the only possible interaction we will have from them is a phone call unless something changes.

Speaking of LI I honestly liked just about every one of them. This AVN gets a huge plus for me so far it doesn’t seem to be a game with incest and im glad about that as I think it would make it worst. For the most part most of the LI in this game have a slow burn feel to them but that might just be because there are too many LI and havent had the time to spend a lot of time with them before leaving college for two months. With that being said there are few LI or side girls out there for some quick easy lewds but the animations aren't great, it’s the worst part of the game. However that doesn't matter to me as it’s a very small part of the game. Also I thought most of the LI that we started to get to know did have some character development / relationship building which is a huge plus for me as that’s one of the most important things in an AVN to me personally. Also I thought every character did come off pretty realistic other than how easily the MC is able to charm LI and get a confidence boost after having sex for the first time. The MC should of took some time to get his confident boost and become charming, funny , social etc etc instead it happens to quickly. I never felt like anyone had a porn feel to them or anything other than maybe their boob size which is another huge plus. PS Eliza is my favorite waifu / LI.

One final thing I want to mention about this game. In my personal opinion it has some really good branching, the branching has impressed me more than other games. Missed your chance about going on a certain LI path by not meeting them yet because of a choice or were undecided no problem. Most of the time you get a second chance as long you didn’t completely shut them down if you had an interaction with them already. There is 1 or 2 you don’t really get a second chance with just yet if made a different choice. There are times making a choice earlier or picking a certain dialogue doesn't just make a small change but the entire conversation. Here is an example: if you didn’t get on Fiona’s path earlier and met her for the first time in the Library you flirt with her or ask her for help on what books to get to study for the exams. Both dialogue choices have an entire different conversation. Not sure how often this happens but it’s one thing that impressed me the most with the dialogue choices.

Overall a very solid AVN that is worth your time as long as you are here for character building and not lewds. Other than too many LI, anything else negative I can think to say about this AVN are things that don’t matter to me or I need more time to judge to see how I feel about them.

This VN is much better than advertised.

+ Great renders
+ Simple game mechanics, no free roams
+ Choices that matter
+ Different routes
+ Great story telling
+ Nice humor
+ Hot sex scenes
+ Music and sounds
+ Hot characters
+ The characters feel real
+ MC looks like a super saiyan and can act like a badass depending on your choices
+ MC got a arm for a dick and can turn any girl from nuns to sluts
+ College theme
+ The homies are written like real bros
+ Respect and rude meter, small shit that makes a different playthrough

- Animations transition is bad
- Inconsistent animation quality, some are lifelike and some decent (lighting off or quality not up to par)

Must play VN!

Very decent game so far. The dev is quite talented with the animations and modelling and all; the game is great visually and among the best I've played in that aspect.

Story wise, it is okay. Nothing new nor complex, but it's still intriguing to see where things will go from here. The sense of humour is fine, but I wish there was more of it; not something bad objectively, though. Personally, I don't like the attitude of the MC in certain interactions. It seems the devs took the “women like men who are disinterested” too serious, but it's okay. There are some things that don't make much sense like the MC magically becoming a Casanova after a glow up and a hookup with one girl in a bar. He is suddenly fun, confident, charming, and well, I think it would be more realistic if those changes were progressive.

I don't play these games for the sex scenes, but I think most in this game are pretty bad. Not the renders themselves, cause those are very good, but the scenes themselves are quite dull and zero arousing, from my perspective. Like a porn video and not two people who like each other having sex.

Another MC with a 30 cm long dick and a bunch of girls who all love gigantic cocks and anal sex ‍♂. Lemme tell you, if you had a dick that big, almost no girl in this planet would allow you to put that monster in her ass, hahah. But well, whatever, these are just the clichés of adult visual novels made by people whose only experience in sex is porn.

I think it's definitely worth playing, and hopefully the dev will keep up the good work.

Downloaded this to my phone and so far its pretty funny, great renders and change of audio, made me crack up couples times. Hopefully people recognize this game. A simple choice based college game, i like it.

This game has:

- An interesting story
-Many likeable characters that kept my interest
- Very nice graphics

I enjoyed it a lot, will follow and see how it develops.
Potential concerns on (too many?) potential love interests. I would rather see fewer but more explored. On the other hand they are diverse in looks, style and personalities which is well done.

There are a few games which capture you, that has something extra. For me, this is one of them.

Review for chapter 4 act I
The story starts with a nice and clear introduction. The premise of the story (albeit a bit cliche) is laid out clearly, which is a good thing. This game really uses its music well, this is a great thing as it really adds immersion and enhances the felt impact of scenes. The animations are also pretty solid.

But why three starts u might ask, well there are also some negatives. First of all, this game seems to be focusing on self-improvement. However, this self-improvement thing was done very quickly and didn't go quite in depth. The MC is before his turnaround quite a annoying wuss. But he has no thoughts about changing nothing. He just gets beat up one time (which likely happened before tbh) and then decides to train and get ripped.

Furthermore, after training u are not immediately a casanova. It would make sense that the MC needs some time to adjust to the way people perceive him now. He got disrespected and bullied at the beginning (and probably his whole life) for being overweight. It does not make a lot of sense that a person just becomes a absolute chick magnet after losing some pounds. There is no struggle or progession in that part of MC's life.

The lack of thoughts on itself is a huge point of improvement for this game as well. For example, before the turnaround in behaviour it would make sense that the MC is already thinking about changing but just isnt strong enough yet to push trough. That would make the turnaround in behaviour make a lot more sense. But also in the dialogue, thoughts could been implemented more and or better.