Ren'Py - Completed - Living with Temptation: American Sunset [Final] [Lesson of Passion]

I've played the first game. This is an excellent remake. There are new characters, and new plotlines.

Very hot dating simulator. Good storylines and replayability.

UI is clean. When new quests appear, the conditions flash on the screen, no need for you to hunt for them.

i will have to be harsh
NTR seems to be unavoidable, i got a mission that tells me to get cucked and its not a mission you can ever fail...
Game have generic characters and you often progress by looking at other people having fun rather than having fun yourself
i can't tell what selecting option will do with the game and its hard to tell what i m even doing
Sure i have Quest menu, but it does not tell me how to make sexy photo session for example....not a hour, place, day what to select, i m stuck on this one for ages
i also need to buy sexy undies for girl who already have it and giving her more doesnt do anything
i was also stuck for a very long time on mission that tells me to visit sex shop without giving me location of it in the map until later
There is a lot of this non-sexual sexual interactions where you don't fuck and i don't like it
Game is not making it easy to progress with a character
i have 700 points with nanny and 0 fucks
1000 points with wife and level 2
what the heck are this points for??

For pluses:
Game works okey
Game have animated sex scenes
game let you change position and decide how to end things

I feel like LoP have lost their "passion" recently. Their last few games have felt very lifeless. The women are still pretty, scenes still well animated but it's all plastic.

The story is the same as the original but now with many more mostly uninteresting diversions for the lead.

I hope they find the devs find their spark again and try something new or interesting to change-up the formula.

Compared to the last one this was remade from, this is a noticeable improvement. However, I do feel this needs a walkthrough.

This is kind of a cheating and/or ntr game. The ntr is avoidable, but might not be with all the characters (but is avoidable with the main characters that I saw). A nanny comes to live with you to take care of the child, you talk to her a lot to build up your relationship with her and/or your wife. You meet other side characters you may optionally build a relationship with. It does take a little bit of grind, but I'd say this game actually is a lot clearly where you need to build it to and not the most difficult to get into a relationship with the characters you want or to see scenes with characters you want. Although it can be difficult to find 100% of the scenes as some are difficult to find without much help, most the game will tell you how to achieve the next scenes and is not too difficult to get them when you follow the instructions.

This creator has made a bunch of games, this one a remake of a pretty old one on Unity, so if some of the renders look old, that's likely because they're remade from old renders. Still in my opinion, they look nice and the story flows fine.

This one improved upon the grinding of the last game, and using Renpy's engine, I think also worked out better, with rollback, better saving, oh, and did I mention a much better organized gallery compared to the last one. Plus the other had more bad endings that I recall without much explanation where you could be stuck restarting the game since some stuff in the old game had little explanation other than looking them up, this one is far more friendly so you don't have to start the game over for the most part and know most of what you're looking for.

When it comes to story, it's mostly the same as the last, but more of it is animated this time (you can see an improvement compared to the last one), but there's also clearer direction where to go. However, I really feel like this game needs a walkthrough or something, because despite how it's easier to get around, it can still be difficult to know how to unlock some of the last scenes with characters it doesn't give much help with (it's difficult to fully unlock the gallery).

I will say it does feel like there could have been just a little bit more I didn't see. Some relationship boosts at certain spots looked like it never leveled up, and more content and explanation could have been filled in on some of those spots. Overall, it was well done, just saying, when you mostly max out a character, it does feel uncertain if you truly saw everything even if you unlocked the gallery with that person.

Overall, it had one of my fetishes, I enjoyed playing the game, good sex buildup, the grind wasn't the worst but could have been a little bit better, still better than the last game if I recall correctly, and overall, I'm actually glad they remade this game as it does feel like a noticeable improvement. However, not sure it needs anymore remakes, although it could use a bit of polishing at the end.

A Classic with All the Staple Flaws

A game ten years in the making, both Lesson of Passion and Living with Temptation are some of the very cornerstones of the adult game genre. If you're an old timer in this genre, you've almost certainly played this game and its various sequels and iterations before.

Originally released in 2013, this is a redevelopment of the concept from the ground up. The visuals are updated and frankly quite beautiful. Lesson of Passion games have always thrived in their visuals, with characters having unique and stunning designs that can draw in prospective players just from seeing them on a promotional banner. This remake updates many of the visuals and animations and brings them back to their cutting edge standard. Unfortunately, it suffers from some of the flaws of a badly aged game stuck in its 2013 roots.

Bad sandbox mechanics, a weird time progression system, some railroaded/forced choices, and a frustrating dialogue progression system mar this title.

The story is exceedingly simple. You're a married couple who recently had a baby and hired a hot, live-in babysitter. Over the course of the summer, you can romance said hot babysitter as well as have encounters with a number of other girls in the game. There's on overarching plot or anything else to do other than try to fuck the girls. Of course there are stats to train up, chores to do, and money to make, but they only matter insofar as you use them to unlock scenes to fuck girls.

Events are often triggered via walking into the correct zone, and in a game with this many separate zones, it can be a slog just to find the right one even if you know exactly where and when they're taking place. Worse, many scenes are triggered on specific time slots in specific days of the week, and if you miss them you have to wait at least another week before you can progress them again.

Then you have a lot of dialogue that is gated upon having explored the previous dialogue options, and it's managed PER girl per location. So if Tracy's in the garden, you have to say hi to her, take a photo of her, flirt with her, etc until you're allowed to touch and progress scenes, even if you're maximum level with her and have fully progressed all of her character options in the living room.

The wonky time system does not make it any better. Pretty much any action progresses the time forward 3 hours. There's essentially six time slots during the day (named 6am, 9am, 12pm, 3pm, 6pm, and 9pm), and any action at all, even so much as saying hello to one of the girls, will progress the time to the next slot. It's how you end up with greetings and showers that take 3 hours, apparently.

Essentially, all of this is to make you waste time, progressing through days and weeks, while you have to chase down every girl at every location they spawn (only 2 of whom, Tracy and Lisa, are tracked), and spam click dialogue options until you finish exploring all the actions for that girl in that specific location. It's honestly even dumber than it sounds.

This game also has quite a kink for NTR content, largely unlabeled and unavoidable. Lisa has a boyfriend who she literally brings to your house so they can fool around. Tracy, despite being married to you, flirts with every guy that gives her attention, be that the swinger couple, Daniel the old flame, or the random guy who finishes your basement. And she forces all this on you even if she's at 0 suspicion and has never so much as sniffed the MC being unfaithful.

In fact, it's so bad that one of the girls, Keiko, cannot even be accessed before you start the cuckold questline, by allowing Tracy to go alone to the beachhouse 3 times, which she visits every weekend without fail (and why? literally you have no option as the MC to even ask her to stay in town).

Even Sandy, one of the side girls you can get involved with, is apparently happily taken and your scenes involve her cuckolding and humiliating her boyfriend to his face while the MC fucks her in her own home. Cuckold and wifesharing content is pretty much unavoidable, since it's on both Tracy and Lisa's path, Sandy does it to someone else, and Keiko literally isn't even accessible without it. Hannah is the only girl in which it doesn't happen and she has about 3 meaningful scenes.

That's not to say that the NTR/sharing content is bad. Most of it is actually fairly well animated and the scenarios are considered both plausible and hot enough that it could reasonably happen. But the lack of any real path to avoid it, no matter which girl you pick, is kind of unfortunate. Every single girl you pick, outside of Hannah, including your wife either involves it or needs it to happen first.

Meanwhile, interesting women like Coco and Dominique are completely neglected. There's currently no endings for them, nor even any progression past level 1. You can't even really call them side girls. Dominique has no real content currently and Coco has about as much content as an almost anonymous waitress you meet during a specific wife-sharing event, and all of her attention is placed on Tracy instead.

The endings are also quite uncreative. You essentially have distinct endings for 4 girls (Tracy's love route, Lisa, Hannah, and Keiko). Then you have a cheating route involving meaningless sex with Sandy while staying with your wife, a cuckhold ending, and a wife sharing ending, in which none of the other girls that you spent most of the game trying to romance even feature. Unfortunately there's zero creativity in which multiple girls can feature. The game essentially assumes you picked one girl and stuck with them exclusively, even if you spent most of the game chasing everybody.

However, as a vehicle for lewd scenes, this game is actually quite good. Lesson of Passion games usually involve quite a generous number of animations, decent sound design, and some well shot sex scenes, albeit most of them are very vanilla.

If all you're interested in is some cheating fantasies and bouncing from one lewd scene to the next, and you're not opposed to clicking around randomly to try to build up enough relationship points and unlocked dialogue options to achieve this, this game is quite good.

If you care about anything else, it's a middling game with good production values.

Honestly, I'm pretty confused about the more negative reactions? This game isn't revolutionary or very expansive, but it doesn't claim to be. It's light on story, but is able to weave the sex scenes into a coherent narrative that makes SOME sense. It isn't grandiose, it isn't ambitious, but that's GOOD. Not all projects NEED to be ambitious, and the majority of them end up slowing down to a crawl, becoming needlessly convoluted.

This game's main concept is simple: you're married with a child, and you now have a university student that acts as your in-house babysitter. There are multiple other women that come into the story as the game continues, some more important and some less. The writing is honestly pretty good, as it's largely just more fluid general conversation and dialogue rather than some broad wide-reaching story-line with multiple arcs and side-stories. This is one of the few open-world stories where the grind is actually quite minimal, so I don't understand any real criticisms for it.

I've played some AVN's with 50+ love interests/sexual partners, and I've played some with as few as 2. From my memory there's about 5 LIs that can give you a different ending, and 2-3 side chicks. I'd have liked more side chicks, but there's a very healthy amount of content with the women in question, and the 7-8 amount is good.

The biggest issue I have is that there are parts of the story where you will get literally no indication how to progress something. For example, for all the time I've spent, I still can't find the assistant. For other characters I had to do the most random choice, and basically wait for the timer to decide I should be allowed to see a scene. At least if there was a more accurate and consistent guide for NEW characters, it'd be helpful, instead a lot of the suggestions are sometimes good, and then sometimes just completely absent.

I will say to people that are super picky, that there IS some unskippable NTR if you choose to follow Lisa's path where she has a few sexual encounters with her boyfriend, as well as some unskippable sharing (at time of writing it was just a bukakke, no actual sex, just handjobs). Keep in mind I'm using F95's definition of NTR, which is simply any sexual situation involving a love interest and another man. I had no real issue with it because it works for the story (unrealistic for people to just all be virgins or something). There's also cuckold and swinging content, but that content is pretty well ear-marked.

This one was average in its original version but even with the update it lays below average in nowdays. The story is pretty generic and the choices you can really make are few, since even if there seem to be plenty, to advance the plot you have to do certain things (and cheating one way or another is in play, even if I like that, you are warned in case you don't).

Characters are pretty decent and hot, and sex scenes are plenty and decent as well, if a bit brief in some parts. Sounds and music exist, the first are few, the second I turned off. And the game has some bugs, even some important ones like not registering some Lisa scenes as completed and thus blocking progress with her, or scenes just not activating.

So, all in all, it works if you just wanna fap, but beyond that it won't offer much else.

On day 33, I realized how bored I was and deleted the game.

The story is somewhat decent with believable dialogue. But the story is really just a day in the life, with repetitive dialogue that is occasionally broken up by a new line.

The sex sounds are not very good. I just muted them to not ruin it. but really the sex scenes arent that amazing anyway imo. Not the worst though.

Getting results with the other girl is a mystery to me. Im guessing I have to get the wife to cheat first or something. I got bored before figuring out how things work.

I would have probably enjoyed this more if all grind were removed and it was more of a choice to go down a story path rather than try to gamify it...

Very hot game about a guy trying to balance spicing up the marriage with a lot of extra marital temptation! No 5 stars because there are several continuity errors, where the game seems to assume you've seen scenes that didn't actually happen.

It's the third version of a game from Lesson of Passion , differently from the Eleanor series that has also has successive episodes it always retell the same story, just adding new scenes and personages, until now I found it way better rounded with the action of the characters being now more credible.
Lisa is always to die for, one of the most stunning figure one could dream of.
Only problem is that if you have always played former versions it would be somewhat repetitive.