You dont stun big enemies if you dont do heavy stamina damage, and if you dont oneshot them, they start hitting you full force, they dont grab you anymore, no matter how high your weak stat is, the littlest hit makes them full hostile. Which is also why, in my experience, you cant actually juice multiple enemies at the same time. One will always get killed before the other, and the one left alive will hit you full force and wont let you grab him, and unless you have where to run and time the grab perfectly before the others notice you or get to you, you are done.Does Juicing enemies to incapacitation not kill them? I thought they did since I always got -1 Mora from using it on normals folks.
Further, while you can't stun enemies, you can always, well, have enough Weak to make them grab you, or just time your Juicing right. For Boars, I just use my Lantern and burn them to death lmao, no ATK stat needed since SURvival is good for food and Ignite scales on SURvival.
I was mostly thinking of capitalizing on the HP and STA gain from Bloodlust's Overkills and proccing it everytime via Bloody Mess rather than the ATK buff. I already get HP and STAmina with Whore of Babylon, so I thought it'd be doubled by adding Bloodlust + Bloody Mess.
Either way, I don't see much of your point in it since Succubus Lona is pretty good as it is with or without Bloodlust or Acolyte Traits, you're already "Stunning" people by letting them have fun with your mouth, gash, or dark star. (both traits of which don't contribute to the damage iIrc, just what else you can do)
On another note, the stealth sections aren't exactly stealth or die; you can go your entire playthrough never stealthing (what I did personally like the brute I am) and your only issue would be how to deal with the reinforcements... which are, well, through good positioning, tunnelling, and/or trap making, or, well, letting 1-2 enemies rail you while keeping your STAmina full of Blue Pots.
I have no idea how being spotted isnt a death sentence to you. Have you played succubus lona or some other build? In the first Cecily mission, if you get spotted before reaching Cecily's room, you can only run back to Grey Rat and none of you deal damage, and he is surrounded by three enemies and dies, or you try to take aggro, but since he attacks so slow, he doesnt take aggro back and you die. Even if you get spotted and reach her room and position everyone, you have to time your hits almost perfectly or she dies by the 4th enemy. And this is just one example thats pretty manageble. The camp with Bobo is basically impossible if you get spotted. There are like 200 enemies then. Even with late game healer and cecily and gray rat, I could only defeat the ones that spawn at the start and die as soon as you cross the bridge.
I guess I found that the church stealth missions arent instant death if you have bombs to deal with the big guy or full Cocona army, and thank god because the ai of those enemies is shitty and sucks.