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Good catch. I never travel with Cocona so I miss all these. The problem is a "0". The game is looking for:

call_msg("TagMapDfRefugeeCamp:Df_Heresy/3to4_1_cocona")

in the file:
\LonaRPG.Beta.0.7.2.X\Data\HCGframes\event\DfRefugeeCamp_HeresyPriest.rb

But the textfile contains:
Df_Heresy/3to4_1_cocona0 in both the CHT and ENG files.

So, the fix is to remove the "0" from the textfile or add it to the ruby file. I'll do a quickfix and remove it from the textfile and keep it in mind when they fix it upstream.

I'll upload the eng zip in a moment.

Edit: A moment has passed.
I'll do the same for Adam not recognizing Lona despite helping him prior to the Cecily Hijack quest:
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Edit: I found the code in "\Data\HCGframes\event\CecilyHijack0_ThunderFlash.rb" and the lines 60-61. I switched "AdamAlive0_t0" to "AdamAlive0_t1" and vice versa and that sure enough calls the "QuestStart/ShowUp_AdamAlive0_t0" line instead where Adam recognize Lona. I have no idea if this is the fix or not.

Edit: I think it is a true fix. Looking in the code some more and also in the "GameLona.ini" ACH "RecQuestAdam_6=1" makes me believe it should be
"call_msg("TagMapCecilyHijack:QuestStart/ShowUp_AdamAlive0_t0") if $story_stats["RecQuestAdam"] >= 1" and nothing else.
So, instead of editing the code I'll just reverse "AdamAlive0_t0" and "AdamAlive0_t1" in the textfile.

If/when they find it upstream and decide to either edit the textfiles as I have now or change the code I'll deal with it then. I also did some QoL editing around pirates bane and vicinity this time around.

Also, thanks for making me talk to myself.
 
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XDHGX

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I'll do the same for Adam not recognizing Lona despite helping him prior to the Cecily Hijack quest:

So, instead of editing the code I'll just reverse "AdamAlive0_t0" and "AdamAlive0_t1" in the textfile.

If/when they find it upstream and decide to either edit the textfiles as I have now or change the code I'll deal with it then. I also did some QoL editing around pirates bane and vicinity this time around.

Also, thanks for making me talk to myself.
You may talk to yourself. But I'm reading every single one of your conversations, man.
 

MaRRgoT

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Need to wait five days after accepting Cecily's quest. You're supposed to let her know when you're good to go. Milos second invite will get you the oppurtunity to do what I suspect you wan't.
Nothing helps. I waited more than 5 days before accepting. I waited 5 days both after accepting the assignment and after joining the group.
 
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Nothing helps. I waited more than 5 days before accepting. I waited 5 days both after accepting the assignment and after joining the group.
I have just come to this point in the story too and I'll try to see if I can trigger the second invitation. The difference I made is that I saved Adam from decapitation. We'll see. I have a save prior to accepting it so I can retest if so.
 

Kauffman

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anyone have the save file for moot abomination start? been trying to get it but I couldnt get the option to rebirth as moot abomination
 

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Nothing helps. I waited more than 5 days before accepting. I waited 5 days both after accepting the assignment and after joining the group.
Are you just waiting time to pass on the overmap or are you sleeping on the tavern?

If I recall correctly, the invite came to me only after I slept on the tavern.
 

MaRRgoT

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Are you just waiting time to pass on the overmap or are you sleeping on the tavern?

If I recall correctly, the invite came to me only after I slept on the tavern.
I've tried all the ways. Out of town, in the city, in a tavern, in a clinic. The head of the guild has been standing, and is standing.
 

MaRRgoT

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I have just come to this point in the story too and I'll try to see if I can trigger the second invitation. The difference I made is that I saved Adam from decapitation. We'll see. I have a save prior to accepting it so I can retest if so.
Saving Adam just disables the appearance of the letter. That's what the wiki says.
 

Tiredpuff

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Saving Adam just disables the appearance of the letter. That's what the wiki says.
That makes sense... On my experience, I firstly did the first invite quest and killed Adam, and then the following quests where I ended up betraying Cecily. After that I came back a couple of saves and did the first invite quest with enough wisdom to spare Adam, and can't really remember if I got the second invite. So that may be it. I'm sorry for the confusion.

Edit: Just checked, yeah the invite doesn't come. I believe it makes sense considering how the first quest ends. It appears that Milo just gets disappointed with the results of Lona's endeavor and feels she isn't to be trusted in these matters.

It'd be interesting if you could actually spare Adam by getting the head of one of those corpses around him in his camp to show to Milo and get his trust.
 
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MaRRgoT

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That makes sense... On my experience, I firstly did the first invite quest and killed Adam, and then the following quests where I ended up betraying Cecily. After that I came back a couple of saves and did the first invite quest with enough wisdom to spare Adam, and can't really remember if I got the second invite. So that may be it. I'm sorry for the confusion.

Edit: Just checked, yeah the invite doesn't come. I believe it makes sense considering how the first quest ends. It appears that Milo just gets disappointed with the results of Lona's endeavor and feels she isn't to be trusted in these matters.

It'd be interesting if you could actually spare Adam by getting the head of one of those corpses around him in his camp to show to Milo and get his trust.
Maybe there is a bug in my version?

I don't see any other options.
Or am I just looking in the wrong place? How exactly does the second letter arrive?
 

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Maybe there is a bug in my version?

I don't see any other options.
Or am I just looking in the wrong place? How exactly does the second letter arrive?
I'll first describe the proccess by memory then ask you a question.

Firstly you just play the game as normal and complete most of the quests from Noer, including the one where you rescue Cecily; After sleeping a night on the inn there'll be a green ! on the guild quest giver at the tavern, you talk to him and you'll get Milo's invite (the first) at your notes at the menu and you'll receive a pass that allows you to go the noble region of Noer, where Milo'll be waiting for you at the golden bar there; You go there and he'll give you the quest to assassinate Adam; You can complete the quest by either killing him or sparing him, and then telling news of your effort to Milo (if you kill Adam he'll drop his head, which you need to take to Milo);

After completing that quest ^ and some time passing, Cecily will have the green ! signalling she has a quest for you, you need to talk to her and she'll explain it to you, but not allow you to accept it yet, saying it's dangerous and that you should take some time to think, specifically 5 days. During the wait or after it, if you killed Adam on the previous quest, after sleeping at the tavern (how it went for me) there'll be a green ! on the guild quest giver again, that's the second invite. If you spared Adam, I believe Milo will not enter in contact with you again, so you'd need to go back a few saves and redo the quest by killing Adam.

After taking it remember to save before talking to Milo, as it's easy to refuse it by accident.

So did you kill or spare Adam?
 

MaRRgoT

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I'll first describe the proccess by memory then ask you a question.

Firstly you just play the game as normal and complete most of the quests from Noer, including the one where you rescue Cecily; After sleeping a night on the inn there'll be a green ! on the guild quest giver at the tavern, you talk to him and you'll get Milo's invite (the first) at your notes at the menu and you'll receive a pass that allows you to go the noble region of Noer, where Milo'll be waiting for you at the golden bar there; You go there and he'll give you the quest to assassinate Adam; You can complete the quest by either killing him or sparing him, and then telling news of your effort to Milo (if you kill Adam he'll drop his head, which you need to take to Milo);

After completing that quest ^ and some time passing, Cecily will have the green ! signalling she has a quest for you, you need to talk to her and she'll explain it to you, but not allow you to accept it yet, saying it's dangerous and that you should take some time to think, specifically 5 days. During the wait or after it, if you killed Adam on the previous quest, after sleeping at the tavern (how it went for me) there'll be a green ! on the guild quest giver again, that's the second invite. If you spared Adam, I believe Milo will not enter in contact with you again, so you'd need to go back a few saves and redo the quest by killing Adam.

After taking it remember to save before talking to Milo, as it's easy to refuse it by accident.

So did you kill or spare Adam?
I killed adam.
 

MaRRgoT

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And did you already accept the quest from Cecily or are you on the waiting period?

Also, does she already have a green ! on her head?

Edit: Also, post your save if you don't mind, I'll see if I can trigger the invite.
I tried in different ways. When before accepting a quest, after accepting a quest, after agreeing to help, after joining.
 

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anyone have the save file for moot abomination start? been trying to get it but I couldnt get the option to rebirth as moot abomination
There was one save shared some pages back but I don't remember which one on a quick glance. Use the search on the thread and look for save and abomination.
 

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I tried in different ways. When before accepting a quest, after accepting a quest, after agreeing to help, after joining.
I went back to an old save and was able to trigger the second invite. At first it was weird cause it seemed to not be triggering, but I got it at the end. The conditions for it to trigger were:

1- Didn't accept the quest yet, but talked to Cecily and started the waiting period;
2- The waiting period was over and the green ! appeared above Cecily, but I didn't talk to her yet;
3- After the green ! appeared above Cecily I waited one night/day cycle (if 1 isn't enough for you, try several, just to test), then it appeared above the tavern/guild quest giver;
 

MaRRgoT

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I went back to an old save and was able to trigger the second invite. At first it was weird cause it seemed to not be triggering, but I got it at the end. The conditions for it to trigger were:

1- Didn't accept the quest yet, but talked to Cecily and started the waiting period;
2- The waiting period was over and the green ! appeared above Cecily, but I didn't talk to her yet;
3- After the green ! appeared above Cecily I waited one night/day cycle (if 1 isn't enough for you, try several, just to test), then it appeared above the tavern/guild quest giver;
Yes. You're right. I have an exclamation point. Damn, what a description. The devil will break his leg after that. Thanks a lot.
2 days fiddling with it.
 
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