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AveryFlare

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Apr 10, 2022
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Just found this game and I'm not sure if its just me being still starting but combat in this game feels really bad. Enemies just zoom all over the place and before you can catch up and land a hit, they already fucked off to who knows where. Also, I saved this random lady who gave me an Aqua Staff that can be sold for about 4k tp and I'm not sure if I should keep it or sell. also found a relic of guardian as well which looks useless.
 

jack_px

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Oct 21, 2016
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Just found this game and I'm not sure if its just me being still starting but combat in this game feels really bad. Enemies just zoom all over the place and before you can catch up and land a hit, they already fucked off to who knows where. Also, I saved this random lady who gave me an Aqua Staff that can be sold for about 4k tp and I'm not sure if I should keep it or sell. also found a relic of guardian as well which looks useless.
for using magic items or relic items you need first to unlock the respective trait
 

elchivo

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Dec 15, 2018
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Just found this game and I'm not sure if its just me being still starting but combat in this game feels really bad.
The combat isn't bad, just very difficult. Lona is a malnourished war orphan, she isn't going to be taking down anything tougher than starved refugees, rats and the odd lone goblin on her own without good equipment and a lot of training (levels). The game actually encourages you strongly to avoid combat, rewards for defeating enemies are lousy, little xp and next to no decent loot, and even if you fight perfectly you'll still be spending a good deal of stamina that could be better spent doing almost literally anything else.
 

horribleaura

Newbie
Dec 8, 2018
21
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I hate that when you're skipping, you can accidentally trigger a choice. Where's my RenPy-esque rollback option?
Just having a key that advances without selecting a choice would be ace.
Hold down control to advance dialogue quickly without selecting a choice. Someday there will be an instruction manual.
 

AveryFlare

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Apr 10, 2022
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The combat isn't bad, just very difficult. Lona is a malnourished war orphan, she isn't going to be taking down anything tougher than starved refugees, rats and the odd lone goblin on her own without good equipment and a lot of training (levels). The game actually encourages you strongly to avoid combat, rewards for defeating enemies are lousy, little xp and next to no decent loot, and even if you fight perfectly you'll still be spending a good deal of stamina that could be better spent doing almost literally anything else.
Ah, that makes a lot more sense and also definitely intended in the setting the dev's making. Also, I didn't realize I was getting shit xp from fights since it never told me how much xp each kill was unless I go check it myself. Still, I do have some gripes with enemy moving around way too fast, too frequently. And letting your companion fight is the way to make fights more fair as they also have access to the movement and also good tracking on the enemy. But, I can live with it.

Side note, needing 10 points in survival just to cook better food is insane when you only get 1 point per level. Same for scout. They better be worth it.
 

Leon5265

Newbie
Jul 14, 2021
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Ah, that makes a lot more sense and also definitely intended in the setting the dev's making. Also, I didn't realize I was getting shit xp from fights since it never told me how much xp each kill was unless I go check it myself. Still, I do have some gripes with enemy moving around way too fast, too frequently. And letting your companion fight is the way to make fights more fair as they also have access to the movement and also good tracking on the enemy. But, I can live with it.

Side note, needing 10 points in survival just to cook better food is insane when you only get 1 point per level. Same for scout. They better be worth it.
Cooking better food is necessary for Hell and doom difficulty. Otherwise, make good soup is enough (1 vegetable + 1 raw meat/fish). Minimum scout of 3 or 5 is pretty much necessary to use hide skill (ctrl button) especially when Lona is melee combatant.
 

AveryFlare

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Apr 10, 2022
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Cooking better food is necessary for Hell and doom difficulty. Otherwise, make good soup is enough (1 vegetable + 1 raw meat/fish). Minimum scout of 3 or 5 is pretty much necessary to use hide skill (ctrl button) especially when Lona is melee combatant.
oh okay that make sense. For the scout thing, the tutorial gives you enough points to invest it all into scout to gain access to sneak so I just did it.

Thinking more on the traits, I wonder if the reason scout and survival have those level 10 requirement to unlock certain skills is because its the dev's way of quietly pushing you to get those and focus more on the survival aspect rather than the fighting cause all raising attack does is... raise the attack stat. While scout and survival have all those other benefits with it. Game design
 

Tyyyr

Newbie
Feb 3, 2021
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oh okay that make sense. For the scout thing, the tutorial gives you enough points to invest it all into scout to gain access to sneak so I just did it.

Thinking more on the traits, I wonder if the reason scout and survival have those level 10 requirement to unlock certain skills is because its the dev's way of quietly pushing you to get those and focus more on the survival aspect rather than the fighting cause all raising attack does is... raise the attack stat. While scout and survival have all those other benefits with it. Game design
It already got much more forgiving than in the past.
Cooking is no longer a skill you have to unlock and the stuff you can cook with 0 survival is all you really need on just hard difficulty (before soups would rot).
 

AveryFlare

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Apr 10, 2022
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It already got much more forgiving than in the past.
Cooking is no longer a skill you have to unlock and the stuff you can cook with 0 survival is all you really need on just hard difficulty (before soups would rot).
That's pretty funny cause I went in expecting the soup to rot because of the other food options that are available.

By cooking skill do you mean the cauldron skill you use in the overworld? Most of the time I just cook at the bar so I don't spend wood. Still glad its gotten forgiving though. I'm not sure how long I'll last in older versions.
 

Tyyyr

Newbie
Feb 3, 2021
81
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That's pretty funny cause I went in expecting the soup to rot because of the other food options that are available.

By cooking skill do you mean the cauldron skill you use in the overworld? Most of the time I just cook at the bar so I don't spend wood. Still glad its gotten forgiving though. I'm not sure how long I'll last in older versions.
Yes, the cauldron skill had be unlocked at 10 (15? can't remember) survival.
Today survival on hard is a money stat. The soups are worthless to sell, but you can make some money selling the 10/20 survival food items (especially cheese can be a moneymaker). Also making your own potions can save a lot of money.
 

AveryFlare

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Apr 10, 2022
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Yes, the cauldron skill had be unlocked at 10 (15? can't remember) survival.
Today survival on hard is a money stat. The soups are worthless to sell, but you can make some money selling the 10/20 survival food items (especially cheese can be a moneymaker). Also making your own potions can save a lot of money.
Okay that's kinda gross actually wow. That's so much investment.
Where can I learn the potion recipes? that would be a huge help
 

Leon5265

Newbie
Jul 14, 2021
30
13
That's pretty funny cause I went in expecting the soup to rot because of the other food options that are available.

By cooking skill do you mean the cauldron skill you use in the overworld? Most of the time I just cook at the bar so I don't spend wood. Still glad its gotten forgiving though. I'm not sure how long I'll last in older versions.
Soups and raw food (vegetables, fruits, meats) will rot on Hell and Doom difficulties. Food bar also drop at 30 points instead (21 points in Hard mode) every half day.
 

james087

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Mar 5, 2019
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Here's a small edit to a single file for anyone interested.

It lets you lower the world difficulty by 1 for each 1000tp you spend up to 10 (the same as the random encounter), but at the church to the north. There's a npc there that let you buy morality for 2000tp each and I just swapped that out for this.

I found it too aggravating to constantly try and make the random encounter pop up in DOOM mode.
 

AveryFlare

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Apr 10, 2022
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Is there any way to not give the ticket back to the guy in the colosseum? Since it gives you only 1 option, I feel like there's a requirement to get a hidden second option where you beat him up instead.
 

ZmaZ

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Jun 29, 2018
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Will game have support other resolution ?
Is there anybody know other game have the same gameplay this ?
 
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