Looking for input and your opinions on a potential game content (raceplay, snuff and sissification)

[Tataro]

Right off the bat I'd give you a extreme content warning.

So I'm thinking of getting into making a game. I'll be trained by another dev but I'd like to test the waters with potential audience first just to see where people stand.

There is 10 chapters in total that I have already planed out, each will have a small timeskip between them to enable content such as pregnancy developing rather than have it be end game content. If a female gets pregnant in say Chapter 4, you will have a talk in Ch 5, baby bump in 6 and progressively larger bellies and even baby birth before the end of the game. Overall it's a game focusing on incest, with mom, older sister and twin younger sisters, and MC of course. But questions about incest are already answered in hundreds of other threads. What I'd like to ask is concerning snuff and raceplay content in the game as well as sissification.


Most people here that have played a game that had a black character in it have probably experienced black on white raceplay, to an extent that it became more or less a meme. For example how many times have you heard things such as BBC, black owned, black only, once you go black, suck this nigg** dick etc..

I'd be interested in exploring the dynamics of raceplay in a reverse situation, where the subjected character is black and dominating one is white. In that case dialogue is more along the lines of: "I'm your nigg** bitch", "bleach me", "snuff the inferiority out of me" "white only" etc. Obviously it's almost the word for word reversal of previous dialogue but I understand it may make some people uncomfortable.

I'd like to preface that this content will be completely optional. You will be able to choose to not engage in it, and even completely break contact with the character relating to it.

With that out of the way let's move forward.

The story of consists of two characters, Male X and Female Y, brother and sister. X is the schoolyard bully, bit of an Afro-American stereotype, active in sports and pursuing ladies, which sadly for you includes bullying your "baby" sisters and trying to get them to have sex with him. Y however is more of a popular girl, fit, slim and slender with a large luscious afro. Think Kendall Woods, friend with both your sisters and tired of her brothers bullshit. While on a walk with sisters you meet Y and you two kick it off right away into a budding romance. As it develops you discover a more kinky side to Y, and that she is into being dominated, humiliated and raceplay. At this point in the game you will be able to say Hell NO and end relationship, you will be able to say no and keep it romantic, or you will be able to engage in her fetish. If you chose to engage it will develop and become more and more extreme. You will be able to stop it at certain stages and keep it there if you so choose.


If you push it to the extreme end of such entanglement she will sterilize her brother and secretly feed him female hormones to sissify him. She will also beg to be your breeding bitch, fall deeper into self loathing and white supremacy/bleaching idea. Her end of extreme relationship may consist of her finding out she's pregnant with a male baby and aborting it because she wants to give birth only to girls that will get knocked up by whites etc and then beg you to get her pregnant again. Expect various degrading tattoos and such.

On the male X's path it can simply be resolved trough violence, which considering MC is a former soldier and older than X shouldn't be too much of a problem. If you pursue a romantic path with his sister you may befriend him. X can also be taken care of passively by pursuing a degrading relationship with his sister and convincing her to sissify him. At that point you may decide to simply leave him be or to degrade him further. For example you may be able to cum in his ass and order him to wear a buttplug and not remove it to let your cum churn for a while, punishing him if he fails by making him eat what he dropped. You may order him into a chastity cage. And ultimately if you push him you may pimp him out in a bad hood as your bitch and put him to making money for you.

As you can see the content can be rather extreme but it is optional, and I'm interested in your thoughts on it so please leave a comment

 

[freedom.call]

What I'd like to ask is concerning snuff and raceplay content in the game as well as sissification.

Most people here that have played a game that had a black character in it have probably experienced black on white raceplay, to an extent that it became more or less a meme. For example how many times have you heard things such as BBC, black owned, black only, once you go black, suck this nigg** dick etc..

I'd be interested in exploring the dynamics of raceplay in a reverse situation, where the subjected character is black and dominating one is white. In that case dialogue is more along the lines of: "I'm your nigg** bitch", "bleach me", "snuff the inferiority out of me" "white only" etc. Obviously it's almost the word for word reversal of previous dialogue but I understand it may make some people uncomfortable.

Although this part is not my 'thing', I'd play. I have a bit of an impregnate fetish in games for some reason.

 

[Vamori]

Oh that's hot, that's hot!

 

[OldMoonSong]

Right off the bat I'd give you a extreme content warning.

So I'm thinking of getting into making a game. I'll be trained by another dev but I'd like to test the waters with potential audience first just to see where people stand.

There is 10 chapters in total that I have already planed out, each will have a small timeskip between them to enable content such as pregnancy developing rather than have it be end game content. If a female gets pregnant in say Chapter 4, you will have a talk in Ch 5, baby bump in 6 and progressively larger bellies and even baby birth before the end of the game. Overall it's a game focusing on incest, with mom, older sister and twin younger sisters, and MC of course. But questions about incest are already answered in hundreds of other threads. What I'd like to ask is concerning snuff and raceplay content in the game as well as sissification.


Most people here that have played a game that had a black character in it have probably experienced black on white raceplay, to an extent that it became more or less a meme. For example how many times have you heard things such as BBC, black owned, black only, once you go black, suck this nigg** dick etc..

I'd be interested in exploring the dynamics of raceplay in a reverse situation, where the subjected character is black and dominating one is white. In that case dialogue is more along the lines of: "I'm your nigg** bitch", "bleach me", "snuff the inferiority out of me" "white only" etc. Obviously it's almost the word for word reversal of previous dialogue but I understand it may make some people uncomfortable.

I'd like to preface that this content will be completely optional. You will be able to choose to not engage in it, and even completely break contact with the character relating to it.

With that out of the way let's move forward.

The story of consists of two characters, Male X and Female Y, brother and sister. X is the schoolyard bully, bit of an Afro-American stereotype, active in sports and pursuing ladies, which sadly for you includes bullying your "baby" sisters and trying to get them to have sex with him. Y however is more of a popular girl, fit, slim and slender with a large luscious afro. Think Kendall Woods, friend with both your sisters and tired of her brothers bullshit. While on a walk with sisters you meet Y and you two kick it off right away into a budding romance. As it develops you discover a more kinky side to Y, and that she is into being dominated, humiliated and raceplay. At this point in the game you will be able to say Hell NO and end relationship, you will be able to say no and keep it romantic, or you will be able to engage in her fetish. If you chose to engage it will develop and become more and more extreme. You will be able to stop it at certain stages and keep it there if you so choose.


If you push it to the extreme end of such entanglement she will sterilize her brother and secretly feed him female hormones to sissify him. She will also beg to be your breeding bitch, fall deeper into self loathing and white supremacy/bleaching idea. Her end of extreme relationship may consist of her finding out she's pregnant with a male baby and aborting it because she wants to give birth only to girls that will get knocked up by whites etc and then beg you to get her pregnant again. Expect various degrading tattoos and such.

On the male X's path it can simply be resolved trough violence, which considering MC is a former soldier and older than X shouldn't be too much of a problem. If you pursue a romantic path with his sister you may befriend him. X can also be taken care of passively by pursuing a degrading relationship with his sister and convincing her to sissify him. At that point you may decide to simply leave him be or to degrade him further. For example you may be able to cum in his ass and order him to wear a buttplug and not remove it to let your cum churn for a while, punishing him if he fails by making him eat what he dropped. You may order him into a chastity cage. And ultimately if you push him you may pimp him out in a bad hood as your bitch and put him to making money for you.

As you can see the content can be rather extreme but it is optional, and I'm interested in your thoughts on it so please leave a comment

Not my cup of tea, and I'm not surprised that the majority feel the same way.

However, don't let that stop you from making the game, and don't let it make you think it wouldn't be a success.

Success isn't about appealing to everyone, it's about establishing yourself in a niche community, a dedicated audience.

Hell, isn't there some game about diapers that's in development being supported by some ridiculous amount of money?

Breeding Season, in its day, was another very profitable (if not successful) project that probably didn't appeal to most people.

Basically, you do you.

 

[Tataro]

Not my cup of tea, and I'm not surprised that the majority feel the same way.

However, don't let that stop you from making the game, and don't let it make you think it wouldn't be a success.

Success isn't about appealing to everyone, it's about establishing yourself in a niche community, a dedicated audience.

Hell, isn't there some game about diapers that's in development being supported by some ridiculous amount of money?

Breeding Season, in its day, was another very profitable (if not successful) project that probably didn't appeal to most people.

Basically, you do you.

I know it wont appeal to everyone. Reason for the thread though is to understand ehy people like it or dont. For example I'd love it if someone said "I love the idea of degrading language and breeding bitch but am not OK with sissy or gay content. Or suggestions how to improve it or maybe add something more etc.

 

[RedPillBlues]

For example I'd love it if someone said "I love the idea of degrading language and breeding bitch but am not OK with sissy or gay content."

I'm not too sure how I feel about of the ideas to be honest. The raceplay shit is extremely overplayed in almost every game that has interracial, so the idea of it being reversed is kind of interesting. Sissification is not my cup of tea at all, but if it's the dude fully turning into an actual girl as opposed to a dude in a dress I can get down with that. Snuff however is something I'm not ok with at all. I may joke about wanting to kill Darnell in Taffy Tales but I would never get off to it as a fetish.

 

[Tataro]

I'm not too sure how I feel about of the ideas to be honest. The raceplay shit is extremely overplayed in almost every game that has interracial, so the idea of it being reversed is kind of interesting. Sissification is not my cup of tea at all, but if it's the dude fully turning into an actual girl as opposed to a dude in a dress I can get down with that. Snuff however is something I'm not ok with at all. I may joke about wanting to kill Darnell in Taffy Tales but I would never get off to it as a fetish.

There will be 3 chances to stop during the storyline before it goes to far. It wont be a case of you you told mom good morning instead of kiss on the cheek thus loosing points and now darnel is gonna be burnt at a stake at the end of the game. It will be quite clear what youre about to do and it will be up to you to do it or dont. Not doing it simply means it doesnt happen

 

[215303j]

Or suggestions how to improve it or maybe add something more etc.

To me it often comes down to having a plausible explanation why things the way they are in the story.

Why is the girl into the MC? Why is she into white guys specifically? Maybe she thinks a black guy will just leave her with a baby and abandon her. Maybe she needs somebody wealthy enough to get her out of poverty. You also need to be a bit careful, unless you intend a humorous tone. For instance, in Bully, the pro-black anti-white stuff is so extreme it's not believable and turns into parody.

 

[Tataro]

To me it often comes down to having a plausible explanation why things the way they are in the story.

Why is the girl into the MC? Why is she into white guys specifically? Maybe she thinks a black guy will just leave her with a baby and abandon her. Maybe she needs somebody wealthy enough to get her out of poverty. You also need to be a bit careful, unless you intend a humorous tone. For instance, in Bully, the pro-black anti-white stuff is so extreme it's not believable and turns into parody.

Her character is inspired by a few characters appearing on Dr. Phil. In essence her mom was a single mother, dad bailed out leaving her with unresolved issues and between her moms hatred of deadbeat dad, growing up without a father and shitty parenting both of them were exposed to she built up resentment towards herself and her race. It's not that uncommon, although admitedly I don't know raceplay practices of such couples I've met quite a few black girls that date whites or non blacks only due to perception of black men. I hope to make it as realistic as possible, from character designs to how you actually get involved with romantic interests.

For instance char design like this inspires me quite a bit, a plain jane.




As for why she's into MC, he's masculine, attractive confident and later on comes into possession of a lot of money. Why not

 

[215303j]

Sounds good and I like the girl as well ("wrong" skin colour though ). Is that your render or from a different game?

What about the brother? From schoolyard bully to sissy is quite a big change and would almost require a mindbreak / lifechanging event. Or is he not the main bully but just a sidekick who acts tough in order to keep his place in the group?

 

[Tataro]

Sounds good and I like the girl as well ("wrong" skin colour though ). Is that your render or from a different game?

What about the brother? From schoolyard bully to sissy is quite a big change and would almost require a mindbreak / lifechanging event. Or is he not the main bully but just a sidekick who acts tough in order to keep his place in the group?

It's a minor character from another game that I really like. Won't be using her, merely a benchmark for the look I'm going in terms of beauty/plainness.

Between cucking him with his sister and humiliating him and her sterilizing him, loss of confidence and changes like his dick shrinking and boobs growing on him I'm sure he'll find a way to shed some of that toxic masculinity hahaha.

 

[HarveyD]

When it comes to fictional porn, I'm game for a whole lot of stuff. So I say go for it, make the game you want to make and hopefully being passionate about it will show through.

 

[redknight00]

It's my opinion that racism is of bad taste regardless of who it's targeted at, a hard no from me.

But I would not play the game regardless due to incest, gay and preg, so feel free to ignore me.

 

[muttdoggy]

@Tataro I would make it a little simpler for programming and story purposes. So your MC is a white male with 2 younger sisters who meets an attractive black girl and her stereotypical super macho brother who is after your sisters?

Here's what I'd do... You can choose 3 relationships with the black girl and here's what happens.
1. Domination route! This includes walking deep into that fetish of hers and possibly sharing her with your sisters who would do the same thing you do.
2. Romance route! You show you that you care about her and want to help. This would focus on her issues to help her become stronger. When it comes to sexy times, this could also include your sisters in sexy fun times, too.
3. Friends with benefits or no relationship? This should be a route that would focus on the mc and his family.

Pregnancy-
With the pregnancy, what if she finds out early it's a male and tries an experimental in utero injection to change its sex which has unintended consequences (Like futa? It loses its balls so cannot get a girl pregnant but gains a fertile womb) or it does work? That would avoid the abortion route since its very very controversial and lots of people are super turned off by it.

Toxic older brother-
On either romantic or domination route, you have 3 choices.
1. Sissification. You can sissify her brother to negate his "threat" to you and your sisters. Her motivation behind sissifying him is that she wants to find a way to stop his toxic male bs. You can even allow your sisters to join in where they turn him into a pet that is degraded (no sex) and pimped out in the hood.
2. All out WAR! Happens one of 2 ways. One way is that he attacks one or both of you OR he targets a white woman to do bad things to but is caught in the act. Either way, the consequences range from him getting badly beat up then later sissified, he gets thrown in prison and is Uncle Bubba's bitch (I mean FAT WHITE BUBBA), or somehow he ends up dead.
3. Befriending him. This can happen in all scenarios even if you turn his sister down! Since he is a "MACHO ALPHA" male, he can serve a purpose. Thinking is not their strong suit, right? Here's how this could work out. You befriend him by pointing him to the slutty gals with low standards. This gains his trust by feeding his ego/dick and through that, the brother unwittingly becomes your lackey and will do what you ask to keep access to those slutty white girls. In this scenario, you can choose to share your sisters or not. (But your sisters didn't tell you they'll degrade him and deny him sex no matter what).

*** To prevent crybabies from shitting all over their panties, nobody bangs the sisters or mom except for the MC or the MC's dad. Same with girlfriend.
I would focus on 2 or 3 routes max for both the romantic interest and her brother and talk to devs to get the variables figured out because keeping variable counts low and making it simple will dramatically lower the number of bugs! And plan it out so at the first demo, you can declare all variables so nobody has to worry so much about breaking saves in the future.

Edited.. had some better ideas so revised it.

 

[Tataro]

@Tataro I would make it a little simpler for programming and story purposes. So your MC is a white male with 2 younger sisters who meets an attractive black girl and her stereotypical super macho brother who is after your sisters?

Here's what I'd do... You can choose 3 relationships with the black girl and here's what happens.
1. Domination route! This includes walking deep into that fetish of hers and possibly sharing her with your sisters who would do the same thing you do.
2. Romance route! You show you that you care about her and want to help. This would focus on her issues to help her become stronger. When it comes to sexy times, this could also include your sisters in sexy fun times, too.
3. Friends with benefits or no relationship? This should be a route that would focus on the mc and his family.

Pregnancy-
With the pregnancy, what if she finds out early it's a male and tries an experimental in utero injection to change its sex which has unintended consequences (Like futa? It loses its balls so cannot get a girl pregnant but gains a fertile womb) or it does work? That would avoid the abortion route since its very very controversial and lots of people are super turned off by it.

Toxic older brother-
On either romantic or domination route, you have 3 choices.
1. Sissification. You can sissify her brother to negate his "threat" to you and your sisters. Her motivation behind sissifying him is that she wants to find a way to stop his toxic male bs. You can even allow your sisters to join in where they turn him into a pet that is degraded (no sex) and pimped out in the hood.
2. All out WAR! Happens one of 2 ways. One way is that he attacks one or both of you OR he targets a white woman to do bad things to but is caught in the act. Either way, the consequences range from him getting badly beat up then later sissified, he gets thrown in prison and is Uncle Bubba's bitch (I mean FAT WHITE BUBBA), or somehow he ends up dead.
3. Befriending him. This can happen in all scenarios even if you turn his sister down! Since he is a "MACHO ALPHA" male, he can serve a purpose. Thinking is not their strong suit, right? Here's how this could work out. You befriend him by pointing him to the slutty gals with low standards. This gains his trust by feeding his ego/dick and through that, the brother unwittingly becomes your lackey and will do what you ask to keep access to those slutty white girls. In this scenario, you can choose to share your sisters or not. (But your sisters didn't tell you they'll degrade him and deny him sex no matter what).

*** To prevent crybabies from shitting all over their panties, nobody bangs the sisters or mom except for the MC or the MC's dad. Same with girlfriend.
I would focus on 2 or 3 routes max for both the romantic interest and her brother and talk to devs to get the variables figured out because keeping variable counts low and making it simple will dramatically lower the number of bugs! And plan it out so at the first demo, you can declare all variables so nobody has to worry so much about breaking saves in the future.

Edited.. had some better ideas so revised it.

First of all, THANK YOU. Posts like this is what I was looking for.

I'd like to address it step by step.


The cast looks like this:

MC - John
Mom - Kate
Elder Sister - Jane
Twin sisters - Aela and Aria
Black girl, friend of Aela and Aria - Imani
And her brother, of course - Tyrone

There's 10 chapters planned out with as I said, timeskips, by name they are: Prologue, The Return, Trouble at homefront, A fortunate find, Horn of Plenty, Stolen, Without you, Rage unbridled, What remains and Happily ever after.

Think the names give out the overall plot. While the story may look complicated it really isn't. With Imani her depravity will be a 3 step process and you will be able to stop it at a point that suits you, so no raceplay, light raceplay, heavy raceplay and ultimately white owned bitch. If you stop at lets say just light raceplay you will get more or less same sex scenes with different dialogue, which isn't that hard to write thanks to raceplay being more of a vocal kink than something like Bondage. What may change visually can be achieved trough use of layers to add things like tattoo's and use of layers will allow several tattoo choices, up to the player from simple queen of hearts to swastikas, whatever player chooses.

The issue of abortion is also player choice. It will simply not happen without your OK as a player. It's quite common in for example stories dealing with black on white raceplay to have the topic of abortion as a way to further the kink, for the female to fully embrace the ideology. Again, fully player choice. You will be able to talk her out of it easily, she worships you after all and if you're going romance path it won't even come up.

The rest I could go with except the 3rd one, I'll try to keep other men away from women as much as possible.

 

[Silver]

patreon will probably ban the game.

 

[215303j]

The use of a swastika tattoo seems a bit out of place:

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But I'm probably overthinking this...

Anyway, a white guy who fucks a black girl can't be a nazi, even though he may be a racist.

patreon will probably ban the game.

LOL!

 

[megaplayboy10k]

Raceplay IRL is a consensual kink in BDSM circles. Raceplay without full consent is just racist abuse imo.

 

[215303j]

Raceplay IRL is a consensual kink in BDSM circles. Raceplay without full consent is just racist abuse imo.

Isn't that the same for a lot of these things?
In a game you can go further because you are not actually hurting another person.

 

[Tataro]

patreon will probably ban the game.

Yup. Which is why I won't be using it.

The use of a swastika tattoo seems a bit out of place:

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But I'm probably overthinking this...

Anyway, a white guy who fucks a black girl can't be a nazi, even though he may be a racist.


LOL!

Not really considering raceplay is erotic humiliation. I doubt a nazi would even engage with a black girl, and putting a swastika there is more of a humiliation of carrying a symbol that hates her on herself and make it visible to others of her kind.

Raceplay IRL is a consensual kink in BDSM circles. Raceplay without full consent is just racist abuse imo.

Luckily it's consensual in the game
I doubt non-cons raceplay can even happen considering effects of dating a black girl and calling her n words out of the blue