Ren'Py - Love, Lust, and Rock 'n Roll [v1.7.1] [FlinPaltwell]

  1. 5.00 star(s)

    Turnip4566

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  2. 3.00 star(s)

    Witocaj

    I would love to give this game a 5-star rating. The setup and dialogue is very good, and the mechanics are interesting. Unfortunately, the art direction (not necessarily the style) is just not up my alley, and it feels that perhaps too much of an emphasis was placed on the 'novel' part of visual novel. Considering the explicit nature of the text and the scenes anyway, it's an odd choice to me to not have nipples or properly show the sex scenes, and it ends up limiting what can be shown during those scenes as well. As such, scenes start to feel repetitive which I think directly contradicts the replayability goal of the developer. As such, I can only give it 3 stars; if an alternate version with better scenes was ever made, that would be an instant 5 stars.
  3. 5.00 star(s)

    VortexMagus

    The right combination of good writing, characterization, and storytelling. You don't need an extensive 2 million word mystery subplot to create a decent game with fun characters and good tension. Though individually each part of this game is not much to write home about, combined it's an elegant, minimalist dating sim with some replayability and a number of very sexy situations.

    I will also say that the conversation minigame is a pretty good one. Everything makes intuitive sense, and its novel enough to keep experienced players from getting bored. I wouldn't enjoy a game with just that on its own, but as a minigame that you hit occasionally, has a bit of learning curve, and which takes 10 seconds max to blow through once you understand what is happening, it's way better than most I've seen.

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    If I had to make a suggestion on how to improve the game, I would suggest adding some random events sprinkled in between conversations, with more opportunities for H scenes during the first 10 chapters.

    Even if its not full on sex - just foreplay or petting, it could be a great way to illustrate each character's sexual tension and growing feelings, and advance liking, lust, and guilt.

    I would also recommend adding some more indicators that suspicion or awareness would be going up - example: random faceless NPCs in the background dancing during a party, or gentle conversation sound effects when you're out in public could be a sign that suspicion will increase more than normal.
  4. 5.00 star(s)

    maxpower@

    Genuinely fantastic game. It hits various unserviced fetishes perfectly, mainly netori and passionate sex with a focus on kissing. The artstyle isn't for everyone, but for people that can get used to it, the girls end up looking really hot. But it's primarily the writing that really drives everything home. I only wish there were more events with just regular flirting and teasing, as the (current) late game turns into a bit of a pure sex marathon.
  5. 3.00 star(s)

    imadecoy123

    I went into this game expecting the art to be a big turn off, it was honestly not that bad and I found it quite unique to see something different.
    The girls have their own personality and are quite likable.
    My main concern lies with the bodies of the girls and MC. There's no genitals except for the girls chest (no nips). Other than Stella I'm pretty sure ALL the other girls just copy and pasted with different heads. The animation is pretty fluid but it repeats itself pretty quick with the same animation with every girl.
    I do enjoy the game mechanic and the new game+ to get new scenes and you keep your stats for it.
    Keep it going dev, looking forward to the beach episode!(y)
  6. 5.00 star(s)

    TerseHopefulDjinn

    Excellent game. The art style manages to be both unique and hot, which is often difficult. The writing is above average for a porn game, which I know isn't saying much, but it is actually well done. The sex scenes are incredibly hot and well done, and the game is relatively easy, while still requiring you to pay attention, which I think is a good balance.

    The new game+ feature makes it incredibly easy to play through and see all the content, with much less hassle than other games. I don't feel like you need any kind of mod or cheats for this game, you can easily pursue all routes with the new game+ mechanic.

    I like that all the characters are easily recognizable and unique, without going to far into stereotypical porn characters (though some of that is present, after all, it is a porn game).

    I really like that essentially, this is a Netori game, as 4 of the 5 LIs are in relationships (2 rather serious, 2 more dating, but perhaps far from marriage), while the last is your girlfriend. I also like that you have to balance your stats and exposure, as you can be caught cheating, and it has consequences. It isn't another power fantasy (although, after 1 or 2 new game+s, it practically is).

    This is just an incredibly well done game, by a dev that cares about the game more than fame or fortune. I'm alwasy pumped when I see this updated.
  7. 4.00 star(s)

    erisedreturns

    would like more variety in positions despite the hard 'no-genital' rule, oral is notably missing. I also want to see more ass, even without any genitals. Even clothed ass! There's a little doggy, but not as much as I'd like.

    Great game though! I really appreciate how passionate the scenes are! Neither cheating nor big breasts are my thing, but I still enjoyed it a lot.
  8. 5.00 star(s)

    GamingSavant

    Cheating is morally apprehensible and a betrayal of love and trust. This is something that you are taught your entire life and a rule that is held sacred; but something about something so forbidden is what makes it equally tantalizing in a work of fiction.

    This is something Love, Lust, and Rock 'n Roll explores. You play as Flin, a teenager nearing the end of his school life in a band with young adults his own age, including his girlfriend Stella, his best friend Eric, and his girlfriend Kelly, who is also Stella's best friend. Throughout the story Flin works is way towards being the rockstar of his dreams with his band, while meeting people, including other women along the way, namely Stella's mother, Julie, a young 36 year old mother who got pregnant as a teenager, and Stella's sister Amy, who is hardly even a year apart in age. As his relationship with Stella gets more intimate, the temptations of women around him increase, and it's up to you to choose whether or not he stays faithful to his fun loving girlfriend or sinks down into the depths of lust and betrayal.

    To give a brief summary of the main characters:

    Flin: the protagonist. For better or worse his decisions are your own. He's a down to earth guy who is portrayed as easy-going and "cool", but serious when it comes to his rockstar career, having a natural talent at singing. This talent + his looks earns him the gaze of the ladies, though, and it's up to you if he stays faithful to his girlfriend or starts sleeping around with everything flirting with him.

    Stella: The girlfriend. She's a cute button of energy and a happy and friendly person. She's basically designed to make you feel a bit bad for cheating on her because she's borderline the perfect girlfriend, though she has a smaller chest than the rest of the ladies (dev fetish detected). She's the only girl who makes the suspicion meter go DOWN instead of UP when doing flirtier dialogue with her, so talking to her once in a while is mandatory even if you plan on cheating. Doing the sex scenes with her also decreases suspicion by a ton (imagine that).

    Kelly: Stella's best friend, and the girlfriend of Flin's best friend, Eric, both of whom are in the band together with Flin and Stella, Kelly being the lead guitarist. Kelly is a faithful girlfriend to Eric and loves him a lot, and initially has to warm up to Flin, but depending on how things go with her, Flin can wind up being fast friends with her, and, on realizing they are more alike than they first thought, can wind up rollercoasting down to intense cheating sex. This one kinda hits as a double whammy because both are cheating on their significant other while simultaneously betraying their best friends, ON TOP OF RISKING THE SECURITY OF THE BAND. Needless to say things can get intense rather quickly if Flin ever dares to take her up on any of her flirtatious bets.

    Amy: Stella's younger sister, though by a rather short several months due to Julie getting pregnant soon after giving birth to Stella, hence why she's the same age and grade (I assume). Amy is known for coming off as "intimidating" to most of the boys in her class despite having dated several of them and being popular for her looks, but despite that she winds up with a boyfriend shortly after the beginning of the game. Only one issue, she still has feelings for her first crush, Flin. Her sister's boyfriend. Honestly the boyfriend matters very little in the equation less so than how close she is to Stella. It's up to our hero Flin to determine if these feelings she had for him meant something to him or not.

    Julie: Stella and Amy's mother. She had Stella when she was in high school and Amy soon after Stella, so she's still in her mid-30s as a result. She is happy with her husband and her daughter's success in her blooming music career but feels like she missed a lot of potential spice in her life by youth to her family. And then walks in Flin being young and healthy and getting into a couple accidental situations with Julie that, if acted upon by our hero, can start to make her forget about her role as a mother and wife and instead have a boy half her age rocking her socks off... and her undergarments.

    Samantha: I'll admit, I don't have much to say about Sam. She's a groupie who follows the band's tour. She's got a boyfriend she's serious about. She thinks Flin is hot. She doesn't pop up until half the current content is done, so she feels very much like a side character currently.


    Onto the pros and cons

    PROS:
    -The game has a neat stat system with RNG tied to success rate of generic conversations you have with the girls to increase Flin's relationship with them. The higher they increase, the more likely an otherwise normal bonding event can turn more... intimate.

    -Cheating enthusiasts can rejoice, this game has lots of cheating sex. I mean lots and lots of cheating sex. So much so that the only vanilla scenes are with Stella, and those are only a few (so if you want to get rewarded for remaining faithful, they do throw you a bone, but that isn't the point of the game). Every girl in the game is in a relationship.

    -Vanilla enjoyers also may rejoice, as cheating is entirely optional. You'll find yourself tempted several times as Flin on whether or not you should kiss the girl in front of you or not despite her not being your girlfriend, Stella. But all of it can be easily avoided and relatively simple to maintain your purity, as Flin still loves his girlfriend at the end of the day.

    -Sex scenes are intense. You would think they wouldn't be with how it dodges showing genitals and nipples (more on that later), but with the camera angles, intense make-out sessions, the dialogue, animations, all of it. The scenes show little but leave a lot to the imagination, and every sex scene is highly erotic and intimate. Don't take my word for it, see for yourself.

    -There is a new game+ feature that maintains your stat upgrades through the story. This might seem weird considering it's just a visual novel where the stats just determine how to climb up a relationship with a girl, but it changes things earlier on, and faster, and this is where it gets interesting. Normally a standard game involves a few awkward or flirty scenes with a girl as Flin develops a better friendship with them, things start to happen, and later a scene might happen where they both cave and have sex, or nothing happens until Flin decides to enter a "committed" romantic relationship to them.

    ... however, NG+ with ascended stats change that. The normal flirty awkward scene that happens earlier with a girl like "oops I went back to the wrong bed and we're both in our underwear." can change from just that to suddenly the two of them sucking the souls out of each other's mouths before humping each other's brains out in intense sweaty sex. And this is all determined by a girl's like and lust rating towards Flin, so things can get more intense the higher their stats are.

    CONS:

    - As a work in progress game, there's a bit missing still. For starters there's an overall lack in backgrounds for the majority of the game. All the conversation windows, for the most part, take place with a black void behind the character Flin is engaged with. This might not seem the most noticeable at first but after a while it starts becoming quite obvious. This is subject to change if the dev decides to add more dynamic backgrounds to the scenes the characters are in.

    - A lot of erotic scenes are reused; positioning, animation, camera angle, etc. This isn't as bad as you'd think however because the dialogue still does progress regardless, and there was a lot of love put into the scenarios presented.

    - There is a Suspicion and Awareness stat, that increases based on how much flirting you're doing with other characters around Stella, and how many people are witnessing it. This isn't actually a bad thing. The bad thing about this is they hardly even matter. On your first playthrough it's so easy to push Stella into negative suspicion that you could practically kiss someone else with witnesses around and it wouldn't be enough to catch you cheating on her (which is what leads to a game over, apparently. I've never been subjected to it personally). This only increases exponentially on NG+ and beyond as you can get her suspicion into the negative 1000s, and by then the only way she'd catch you cheating is if you were literally humping someone's brains out in front of a crowd with her in it.

    - There is no genitalia or nipples. The genitalia thing is whatever, as softcore erotica tends to not show this ever anyway, and one of my favorite hentai artists usually avoid putting focus around the genitals. The lack of nipples however, at times, makes it hard to look at the girls as more than barbie dolls. I get why they're excluded and it personally bothers me little, but the fact remains that at times it's hard to take some scenes in complete serious when ALL scenes cut out the nipples. I'm just saying... I wouldn't mind nipples being added to *some* cuts, maybe?

    In Conclusion:
    When I first saw this game I didn't think the graphics looked the spiciest or highest of quality (Sorry dev), but seeing the preview scenes made me give it a chance, and I was glad I did. This game is on the fast track to greatness and I'm hoping for and, with confidence, expecting better things in the future, so I recommend picking this game up at any point as this review is submitted. 5/5, can't wait for more.
  9. 5.00 star(s)

    Itsyaboy420

    the sexual content in this game could be said to be not much, but by god is the story amazing, the graphics is also amazing and the way that the route for each character was made so that they won't conflict or even stop other routes is a genius idea. You're amazing Devs, Good luck and please finish this game or at least give it a satisfying ending. Also another thing i would suggest, for those who find this game is too grindy like the one star review below, use 0X52_URM/ Universal Renpy Mod, put the file in the game folder voila you can edit pretty much everything (another tip press ALT+ m to go to the edit screen), while i also agree with the scene being too simple but give the story a whirl and you'll be amazed.
  10. 4.00 star(s)

    dwood

    This is nipples away from excellent. I don't mind the whole anti-porn porn thing, but people have nipples. It is distracting and weird, and not at all in a good way. However, it is still a very enjoyable game. It does the non harem, actual cheating thing better than just about any other game I've come across.
  11. 5.00 star(s)

    MarcoPoolo

    This is an excellent GAME!


    In my opinion, the art style stands out from so many other games today and while some might think its low quality, I enjoyed the different look very much.

    The game aspect is also very nice and thought through it seems. It is definitely something completely new for me and I was very invested into the gameplay like I haven't been in a long time with a game on here.

    The story is simple but also straight forward. You don’t have to grind endlessly to get H-scenes and imo, the story also makes somewhat sense and I love the, although quick, corruption of the other females.

    Overall, I enjoyed this game very much and if there is anything I'd have to critique, then it’s the lack of nipples (like others have pointed out) but that should give you a hint about the high quality of this gem.
  12. 4.00 star(s)

    wpeale71341

    4 stars. I am holding back one star because of one blaring reason. Everything is just fine with the exception of one thing. There is a serious lack of nipple in this games animations. Don't get me wrong. The animations are otherwise outstanding however there is not a nipple to be seen. Add in nipples and its a 5 for sure.

    You know what else would make this game really outstanding. Add in pregnancies. He literally uses no protection and finishes inside every single one of them. SO....... if they were to get knocked up......all of them...... NNow that would be one hell of a game over ending. Julie explaining to David. Kelly explaining to Eric. Amy explaining to Ben. Samantha explaining to loser fiance. And most importantly Flin explaining to Stella how all these kids are his by accident. Including hers. Poor David. In a house with three pregnant women and left to resent father Flin for creating his hormonal hell. What an ending. That would be worthy of a 5 right there even without nipples.

    It will ne interesting to see just hoe far this will game will take things. I would love to see huge fame and fortune. Maybe even Flin banging his new new manager as well. Samantha gets married but still bangs Flin when he is on the road. Oh there are tons of possibilities for this game. Flin could hook up with 2 fan girls for a threeway while on the road. Watching this one intently. Well worth a play if you have not done it. The story is rich and the art is outstanding on its own.
  13. 5.00 star(s)

    cjay7

    One of my favorite games on the site. Unique art that grew on me very quickly and pretty strong writing and story. There's a decent amount of content already.
    The cheating aspect and progression is believable and very well done, and the possible consequences is a nice touch (wouldn't mind seeing a few more of those situations added, as well as instead of a game-over, maybe be able to see the after effects and work through/continue on).
    Would like to see a few less black-screens where it just describes what's occurring, and maybe expand on the details in the mini-game also.
    Obviously still pretty early, so I'm excited to see the progress and believe I will be giving my support if this new update is well done.
  14. 1.00 star(s)

    obibobi

    Don't be fooled by the rating, checking on some of those 5 star ratings and you'll see accounts with no history.

    I don't give it out a one star lightly, but this game is bad, outside of games that require a grind it's the worst I've ever seen and to be clear this has nothing to do with the art which I don't mind.

    There is practically no characterisation of story, the developer has substituted story with a random number generator, does your selection raise a girls stats, pure luck.

    Then when I got to the first sex scene it was just the 2 models on top of each other wrapped in a blanket. So unless you're Amish, somehow stumbled upon this one specific game and easily turned on, you won't find anything erotic
  15. 5.00 star(s)

    Boooooger

    A great game that does something no other game on here does. Proper cheating with consequences. No silly harem BS

    The graphics grow on you pretty quick and I love that I don't have to look at a slightly different copy of a model that is seen in every other game.
  16. 4.00 star(s)

    Deleted member 1044747

    The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle


    First off: I like the concept of this game.
    Instead of producing the hundredth DAZ-style clone the dev of Love, Lust and Rock 'n Roll tries to think outside the box and create something different. That's commendable.
    However, I also feel there's still a lot of room for improvement.
    But one thing at a time...


    Visuals

    The art style is surely not for everyone - you probably either like it or you don't.
    I quite like it, I even find it charming in its own quirky way.
    The girls are kinda cute, but most of them suffer from the big boobs syndrome. A little more variety would have been nice.
    The lewd scenes (and rare animations) are pretty hot - the girls not having nipples is quite a turnoff, though.
    Unfortunately, there are also quite a lot of scenes where you have to stare at a black screen and read a text description of what is currently going on. That's a big bummer considering it's a visual novel.
    Sally also just appears as a simple silhouette for now.


    Music

    There is no music - which is kinda odd (lame?) considering this is a game centered around a freaking rock 'n roll band.
    I hope the developer will add music (and maybe sound effects) at some point.
    It doesn't have to be blaring music in a continuous loop - some accenting, unobtrusive music and ambient sounds would suffice.
    Music matching the current situation (romance, suspicion, immediate danger of getting caught cheating, etc.) would be even better.
    I'm sure most people who have played a game or read a visual novel with fitting music will agree that it can significantly amplify a story's atmosphere.


    Writing

    The story is - for the most part - nicely written in proper English and I like that it's focused on developing (loving) relationships instead of "Hi, can I ride your dick?".
    On top of that there's a good amount of eroticism (hugging, handholding, making out) plus the thrill of cheating.
    However, the writing is also lacking in several regards.
    I wished the mini-game conversations were actual conversations instead of the continuous "you talk about casual things" - at least give the reader a general idea of what people are talking about ("we had a conversation about music").
    Also, a lot of situations leading up to one-on-one conversations don't feel very believable.
    For example when Stella introduces us to her sister (who btw. is MC's classmate - and he didn't even know she's his girlfriend's sister, eh?), she immediately has to go. Or when the band meets for dinner - Eric suddenly remembers he has to feed his dog and Stella realizes she has to meet a friend.
    It would be nice if the writer puts a bit more effort into explaining why the MC is suddenly alone with his GF's sister or his best friend's girlfriend. Stella could have announced earlier that she has an appointment and couldn't have dinner with them - and Eric could receive an urgent telephone call or something like that.
    Some scenes also seem super weird / implausible if not downright ridiculous.
    MC has a sleepover at his GF's house and suddenly her mom comes crawling into his bed because she forgot he's there? WTF?
    On top of that we can't avoid the MC indecently hugging her in said situation (she's suddenly freezing, duh) which annoyed me quite a bit because I was doing a "faithful boyfriend" playthrough. At least give us a choice to hug her or not.


    Game mechanics

    There are two prominent game mechanics in LLRR setting it apart from many other adult games / VNs - and both are a double-edged sword.
    Firstly, there's the randomness of scenes which boosts replayability.
    On the other hand it also means that events sometimes don't evolve as naturally as with traditional storytelling. In my playthrough Stella introduced the MC to her sister and in one of the next scenes Amy was already visiting him (in reality it would be more likely the three of them hang out first until they know each other better).
    Secondly, the conversation system, which allows us to define the MC's relationships towards the different girls and pursue the girls we want (it reminds me of Seduce Me where conversations are represented by card games).
    The downside of this system in its current form (as already mentioned above) is that it's not really interesting or fun. It actually becomes quite repetitive and grindy within a short amount of time, especially since there are certain phrases which get reused over and over ("you smile, but she doesn't return it").
    Conversations also sometimes lack consistency - like when at the end of a successful conversation Stella suddenly acts dismissive - only to smile at you in the next scene telling you how much she loves you.


    User interface

    Apparently, the dev of LLRR has put some thought into creating the game's UI. It's clean, it's functional.
    I like the idea of character-tied dialogue font colours, but wished they would be more distinctive. Some of them are also hard to read.
    I also think that the conversation UI could be better (looking). Right now it looks very "technical" displaying lots of raw (and rather boring) stats.
    Some suggestions: Place the conversation choices (and choices in general) more prominently in the (lower) middle of the screen. Rephrase some of the ambiguous sounding words (passionate discussion -> flirt?, guilt -> restraint / reluctance?). Translate the raw stats (love, lust, suspicion) into visual elements by turning them into bars (love-meter, suspici-o-meter, etc. accompanied by a distinct icon). A more extravagant solution would be to display a torso of Stella - with her facial expression changing according to how much she likes you or how suspicious she is (or maybe add hearts or an exclamation mark above her head). Her body language or the way she's dressed (conservative / slutty) could imply her lust, etc. Hovering over her torso could still display the raw stats (lust 45, for example).


    Bugs

    So far I encountered one possible bug:
    The MC was in a casual conversation with Julie in the kitchen, when he was suddenly "leaning" over her in a weird pose.
    Probably either a scripting error or visual bug.


    Conclusion

    My first impression of Love, Lust and Rock 'n Roll wasn't that favourable to be honest - the game seemed not polished enough and also a bit too grindy at times to be entirely enjoyable.
    However, the longer I played, the more the game, its characters and story grew on me.
    Despite the shortcomings mentioned above I think Love, Lust and Rock 'n Roll is a true work of love - with the potential to become even better in the future.

    Also, Stella is the cutest, damn.
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    Deleted member 34454

    Just found this game today, fell in love with it. The relationships feel pretty organic for an erotic game, and I cant wait to see more of how the 'secret' relationships develop. I would like to see a few more scenes with the actual girlfriend too though. Keep up the great work!
  18. 4.00 star(s)

    Spacc123

    I really enjoyd this game. The system is solid, it all works great. I really like the idea of the Ascension mode, in general a good game.

    I hope it keeps developing and I hope there comes some more depth in, mostly, the sex scenes. Doing the same vanilla sex scene over and over again with every character becomes a little boring.
  19. 2.00 star(s)

    qljrnt6jc4eh2

    Such an overrated game.. I was tricked by the images and overwhelmingly positive reviews.
    The game mechanic is very unique and might have been entertaining if if wasn't just clicking on text over and over again (yep, that's called "grinding") to progress with the women.
    The first start lets me choose my desired framerate for animated scenes by watching a (very nice!) scene.. but it very much looks like this one was just to trick me, because all of the lewd stuff I've ran into so far was either NOT ANIMATED or just another still image, which was.. shaking. No joke. A shaking image instead of an animated scene.
    The models are ugly, BUT they suffice for the moment.

    No recommendation.
    Btw: Yes, I came here for the lewd stuff, not for reading through texts. Because that's what games on F95 are mainly made for. Or should be.
  20. 4.00 star(s)

    termhuss

    Really great erotic game. I like the randomness of it. Do not spend your cards randomly though and save them so major events may pop up. If you want to spend them, focus on 1 girl and keep a few available. I would give it 5 stars if it had nipples.