Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v24.12.0a] [Andrealphus]

[cognu]

I liked the game a lot, and waited enough updates to give it a proper re-run when i found the huge amount of content it got.

I want to ask if is a my system problem (Which shouldn't be the case), but i replayed the game again i found that transitions are... slow, like not a huge amount but slow enough to get annoying.

For example, clicking between locations can take 1 to 2 seconds...and in this game is the main navigation system, making all the playtime feel really bad.
I don't know if is all the redudant calculations or loading images the problem, but it's a way to improve it? or it's planned to be improved?

Asking if it's a way to improve the speed on navigation, i will for sure wait till that's in place.

Thanks in advance

 

[plm0901]

when in this game will appear the rest of new characters, new locations, new items or new tasks? wonder

I agree. The recent updates were mostly focused on endgame contents(harem) or contents for all characters(hottub sex).
I mean it's not bad. But something feels like the game went to status quo, even though the dev always makes new stuffs for every month. I agree that this game has too much characters already. And there are characters that has been abandoned for long times and needs some more love. But as a person who enjoyed this game as a text adventure game, end loved all the uniqueness of each characters, it's a shame that I cannot explore more new characters who might be my new favorite. Even a topic like food, all characters have different answers. And it was fun what other characters would respond to that topic.
Besides that, I enjoyed Camilla. She had some very interesting dialogues and had fun chemistry with the MC. And I never like Kylie anyways.

 

[Deleted member 2820232]

I agree. The recent updates were mostly focused on endgame contents(harem) or contents for all characters(hottub sex).
I mean it's not bad. But something feels like the game went to status quo, even though the dev always makes new stuffs for every month. I agree that this game has too much characters already. And there are characters that has been abandoned for long times and needs some more love. But as a person who enjoyed this game as a text adventure game, end loved all the uniqueness of each characters, it's a shame that I cannot explore more new characters who might be my new favorite. Even a topic like food, all characters have different answers. And it was fun what other characters would respond to that topic.
Besides that, I enjoyed Camilla. She had some very interesting dialogues and had fun chemistry with the MC. And I never like Kylie anyways.

who is camilla?, i seen her in the cheats section but havent met her yet and ive played the game through my first year, now im not gunna lie, ive been playing with cheats since the get go theres also one more cherie that i havent met yet thats mentioned in the cheats? is it for a patreon supporters or something?

 

[Evil13]

who is camilla?, i seen her in the cheats section but havent met her yet and ive played the game through my first year, now im not gunna lie, ive been playing with cheats since the get go theres also one more cherie that i havent met yet thats mentioned in the cheats? is it for a patreon supporters or something?

Camilla is a police officer you meet through Kylie's...insane fuckin' stalker storyline. Eventually, the MC reports Kylie to the police, specifically Camilla. Soon afterwards, Kylie is arrested and removed from the game and Camilla is available as a romance option.

 

[Cartageno]

I liked the game a lot, and waited enough updates to give it a proper re-run when i found the huge amount of content it got.

I want to ask if is a my system problem (Which shouldn't be the case), but i replayed the game again i found that transitions are... slow, like not a huge amount but slow enough to get annoying.

For example, clicking between locations can take 1 to 2 seconds...and in this game is the main navigation system, making all the playtime feel really bad.
I don't know if is all the redudant calculations or loading images the problem, but it's a way to improve it? or it's planned to be improved?

Asking if it's a way to improve the speed on navigation, i will for sure wait till that's in place.

Thanks in advance

Well, in a way it is a "your system problem", though not the way you mean it. It happens to some, not to others, it isn't a question of processing power, memory size, what have you - some toasters work well, some $10k gaming rigs won't. So far the cause is not known.

 

[Deleted member 2820232]

Camilla is a police officer you meet through Kylie's...insane fuckin' stalker storyline. Eventually, the MC reports Kylie to the police, specifically Camilla. Soon afterwards, Kylie is arrested and removed from the game and Camilla is available as a romance option.

thanks

 

[Waveshaper]

So far the cause is not known.

Well, in most cases it's just RenPy - it's not really the most performant engine imaginable. If you then add some devs using unoptimized assets on top of it, I would say you already cover at least 80% of cases suffering from poor performance. Sure - the systems the games are run on are relevant to a degree as well - but RenPy isn't that great of a engine when it comes to performance - similar to Unity. And the reasons are usually known - but fixing them is not exactly the main focus of development.

In the particular case of L&S:SB the problems are also tied to the development practices as well - there are multiple aspects of the game that could be vastly improved on a conceptual level, that would reduce performance-impact further. It's nothing that solely have to be done on a technical level of the framework - it's often also tied to HOW devs code/develop on such engines.

L&S:SB suffers from a pretty poorly approach to navigating 'the world' that could be highly improved and/or streamlined to reduce asset-loading - at the same time such changes would improve the overall feel of the game and reduce the 'felt' grindiness many people regularily mention.

Unfortunately that's pretty much standard - what you can expect from non-professional coder/developer - and you can't really blame them, because you have to know one or two things about it to improve your own game/programs accordingly. Especially in this 'genre' of games it's usual that you deal with artists who learned enough to make things work - L&S:SB is even a rather elaborate project compared to the state of the scene. Still - even with RenPy getting more and more optimized - without elaborate structural changes games like this one will suffer from performance-issues. Devs could counter that problem with proper design-choices - but unfortunately that's usually not something they are mainly concerned with...

 

[Cartageno]

Well, in most cases it's just RenPy - it's not really the most performant engine imaginable. If you then add some devs using unoptimized assets on top of it, I would say you already cover at least 80% of cases suffering from poor performance. Sure - the systems the games are run on are relevant to a degree as well - but RenPy isn't that great of a engine when it comes to performance - similar to Unity. And the reasons are usually known - but fixing them is not exactly the main focus of development.

In the particular case of L&S:SB the problems are also tied to the development practices as well - there are multiple aspects of the game that could be vastly improved on a conceptual level, that would reduce performance-impact further. It's nothing that solely have to be done on a technical level of the framework - it's often also tied to HOW devs code/develop on such engines.

L&S:SB suffers from a pretty poorly approach to navigating 'the world' that could be highly improved and/or streamlined to reduce asset-loading - at the same time such changes would improve the overall feel of the game and reduce the 'felt' grindiness many people regularily mention.

Unfortunately that's pretty much standard - what you can expect from non-professional coder/developer - and you can't really blame them, because you have to know one or two things about it to improve your own game/programs accordingly. Especially in this 'genre' of games it's usual that you deal with artists who learned enough to make things work - L&S:SB is even a rather elaborate project compared to the state of the scene. Still - even with RenPy getting more and more optimized - without elaborate structural changes games like this one will suffer from performance-issues. Devs could counter that problem with proper design-choices - but unfortunately that's usually not something they are mainly concerned with...

While all that may be true, it doesn't really explain why specifically LSSB shows this erratic behavior of running smoothly on some systems and having incredible lags on others without any discernible correlation between performance and system specifications.

 

[IceNeo2]

is anyone having trouble with the archive.rpa of the latest version? Whenever I try to unpack it that is the only file that gives me an error...

 

[gnadudu]

is anyone having trouble with the archive.rpa of the latest version? Whenever I try to unpack it that is the only file that gives me an error...

No issues here, just tested it with unren.bat:


Which tool did you use?

 

[PREGCHAD]

What's the best mods to skip through the grind? I love the events, but doing a playthrough again because the updates have broken some of the dates unfortunately.

 

[gnadudu]

I think that I wasn't very clear with my comment. I meant when trying to unpack it from the compressed zip archive file when you finish downloading from one of the links from the original post.

Hmm, downloaded from NOPY and tested the archive with no errors:

 

[Deane9850]

What's the best mods to skip through the grind? I love the events, but doing a playthrough again because the updates have broken some of the dates unfortunately.

Search for flowershop in this thread... There should be a flowershop.rpy code that you can copy and put it in the folder. Still work, altho some newer girls will not be included. Also the yuri pill is broken.

 

[rishafa61]

New Guide or Walkthrought?

 

[Cartageno]

New Guide or Walkthrought?

Wiki is kept up to date. Give it two or three days after a new release. Because of that, nobody is writing a document anymore, it is too unyieldy to use.

 

[HighGrove]

Can you only marry Lexi/Minami as part of the Home Harem? I proposed to Lexi solo but her wedding never procced. And I don't think I even saw the option for proposing to Minami individually.

 

[DRAKEE97]

Can you only marry Lexi/Minami as part of the Home Harem? I proposed to Lexi solo but her wedding never procced. And I don't think I even saw the option for proposing to Minami individually.

It seems like it, I also tried but only could marry them in harem.

 

[IceNeo2]

How do you get the nightclub as an option for the date? Do I have to get the girl to a certain percentage before leaving so the date continues there or can I start there?

 

[PREGCHAD]

Search for flowershop in this thread... There should be a flowershop.rpy code that you can copy and put it in the folder. Still work, altho some newer girls will not be included. Also the yuri pill is broken.

Genuinely could not find anything.

 

[TangoP]

Sex shop at night, it's the item called bondage ropes.

I've got the ropes and her submission is at 60, but I can't get the next scene to trigger...