Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v24.12.0a] [Andrealphus]

[Tehemai]

It's avoidable following the wiki?

Nope, as the poster above you mentions at best you can kind of just avoid characters entirely.

And even then, avoiding someone like Samantha is basically just giving up MC's primary crush to his rival permanently. As opposed to putting up with her constantly talking to him about Ryan dicking her all over the city until the game gives you a chance to catch him cheating on her. In other words, totally not avoidable.

Moreover, if you do not allow Ryan to also marry her, you get locked out of the only sexual opportunities with one of the shop girls. So the game basically encourages you to hold off on ending the NTR.

 

[JollyRancher69]

It's avoidable following the wiki?

Mostly yes. It also heavily depends on what definition of NTR you're using. There's no instances of a character coming in and stealing a girl away from you. Just a few instances of possible/debatable cheating or the girl being in a prexisting relationship. Theres only one girl who will outright consistently cheat on you, Alexis, and you are given many chances to prevent it from happening and stop it entirely

 

[JollyRancher69]

Nope, as the poster above you mentions at best you can kind of just avoid characters entirely.

And even then, avoiding someone like Samantha is basically just giving up MC's primary crush to his rival permanently. As opposed to putting up with her constantly talking to him about Ryan dicking her all over the city until the game gives you a chance to catch him cheating on her. In other words, totally not avoidable.

Moreover, if you do not allow Ryan to also marry her, you get locked out of the only sexual opportunities with one of the shop girls. So the game basically encourages you to hold off on ending the NTR.

Unless I'm seriously out of touch with the definition I dont see how Sam is NTR. Shes engaged to Ryan at the start of the game and then marries him. Also Natalie, the shop girl, isnt properly implemented yet and based off their patreon poll wont be until the last or second to last dlc. So if anything its her only scene so far.

 

[marnosta]

It's avoidable following the wiki?

Check wiki and don't listen to them. There are very few girls, who have any NTR in their storylines and you can avoid all of them by doing correct choices except for that Reona mentioned before, but it is just matter of time till she will get her second path with no NTR. It is also not much of a NTR since she is introduced as a girl who likes to fuck around and her and MC have no relationship at all (perhaps friends), when you see her with someone else.

That other guy talking about Samantha is very misleading, she is just MC crush from before, who chose his friend over him, there is no scene you seeing them fucking together and little to none mentioning it. If you want her in home harem you need to go through revenge path in which there is actually netori content, which is kinda cuckolding Ryan, no netorare whatsoever.

 

[Tehemai]

Unless I'm seriously out of touch with the definition I dont see how Sam is NTR. Shes engaged to Ryan at the start of the game and then marries him. Also Natalie, the shop girl, isnt properly implemented yet and based off their patreon poll wont be until the last or second to last dlc. So if anything its her only scene so far.

Can't go too much into it, only trying to answer his question. But MC explains it in game. MC did not merely develop feelings for her after the game started nor after they were already in a relationship. He had a huge crush beforehand and was in fact pursuing her. She was fully aware he likes her, he simply loses out to Ryan.

The game starts up in the middle of an ongoing ntr arc. At the part where all the fucking/marrying of his crush by his rival is taking place. To which MC repeatedly expresses nothing but hurt and jealousy. This can be stopped about halfway through her arc. But it certainly cannot be prevented.

If anyone needs further clarification, please refer to f95's tag definition of NTR so we can keep this thread on topic. It definitely meets all three of F95's required criteria for classification as NTR any way you slice it. Debates should be had elsewhere as per mod wishes.

Spoiler: F95's Official NTR Tag Definition

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[KiraJames]

Nope, as the poster above you mentions at best you can kind of just avoid characters entirely.

And even then, avoiding someone like Samantha is basically just giving up MC's primary crush to his rival permanently. As opposed to putting up with her constantly talking to him about Ryan dicking her all over the city until the game gives you a chance to catch him cheating on her. In other words, totally not avoidable.

Moreover, if you do not allow Ryan to also marry her, you get locked out of the only sexual opportunities with one of the shop girls. So the game basically encourages you to hold off on ending the NTR.

How is sam ntr, when you are not with her? In that logic, every mother or most milfs are ntr, because they had a dick in them before the mc meet them.

 

[KiraJames]

Check wiki and don't listen to them. There are very few girls, who have any NTR in their storylines and you can avoid all of them by doing correct choices except for that Reona mentioned before, but it is just matter of time till she will get her second path with no NTR. It is also not much of a NTR since she is introduced as a girl who likes to fuck around and her and MC have no relationship at all (perhaps friends), when you see her with someone else.

That other guy talking about Samantha is very misleading, she is just MC crush from before, who chose his friend over him, there is no scene you seeing them fucking together and little to none mentioning it. If you want her in home harem you need to go through revenge path in which there is actually netori content, which is kinda cuckolding Ryan, no netorare whatsoever.

Exactly, it isn't really ntr, if this counts then half of this sites would be ntr.

 

[KiraJames]

It's avoidable following the wiki?

Yes

 

[Trogdor6969]

- You can avoid it by not dating Reona (which mean losing less than 5% of the game content)
- It's not NTR by F95's rules (as the heroin has to be taken from the MC for it to be NTR)
- It happens BEFORE you get in a relationship with her, she just fucks you casually same as she does others up to that point and you are warned about it before you start bonking her

Spoiler: F95 NTR tag definition

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source for the NTR tag definition

i disagree and believe there are inconsistencies with the logic but at the end of the day its not my game and im getting it for free. and even if i tried to say something i would have my comment removed anyways so it is what it is. i personally dont care that much about it.

 

[Adoringfan]

How is sam ntr, when you are not with her? In that logic, every mother or most milfs are ntr, because they had a dick in them before the mc meet them.

The Fractured But Whole defense! Love to see it. NTR is avoidable afaik, there are a few love interests that do start in relationships with people other than the mc, but you can avoid them getting dicked down if you don't want it to happen. The only one that you can easily stumble in on accidentally is the

Spoiler: Aletta/Lexi one

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, easy solution is to bang Aletta and you won't have to worry about it.

 

[darkstel]

God, what vulnerable people, it's worth the developers to make the games more like real life in terms of relationships and the howls begin. I would still understand this if there was no corresponding warning tag, but here it is. Plus, technically, one way or another, this can be avoided, mentioning that someone was doing something to someone there is not an irreversible graphical demonstration. For me, the biggest stumbling block was Reona, but again, here alternative story her path has not yet been released.

 

[Oscar Baja]

Is there a bug report page? Whenever I do watch TV with someone now it shows the image with the full house harem

 

[Garden_In_Chains]

Check wiki and don't listen to them. There are very few girls, who have any NTR in their storylines and you can avoid all of them by doing correct choices except for that Reona mentioned before, but it is just matter of time till she will get her second path with no NTR. It is also not much of a NTR since she is introduced as a girl who likes to fuck around and her and MC have no relationship at all (perhaps friends), when you see her with someone else.

That other guy talking about Samantha is very misleading, she is just MC crush from before, who chose his friend over him, there is no scene you seeing them fucking together and little to none mentioning it. If you want her in home harem you need to go through revenge path in which there is actually netori content, which is kinda cuckolding Ryan, no netorare whatsoever.

Does Reona become exclusive to the MC once they are in an established relationship? Is there an actual committed romance taking place?

 

[Ilovekatz19]

How is sam ntr, when you are not with her? In that logic, every mother or most milfs are ntr, because they had a dick in them before the mc meet them.

I don't really have a leg to stand on when it comes to if Sam and Ryan hooking up could be called ntr, but

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is ntr, just not

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(which is what most people think of when they hear ntr), instead it's

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.

 

[darkstel]

Does Reona become exclusive to the MC once they are in an established relationship? Is there an actual committed romance taking place?

after Mike talk to her about a relationship, she can be made exclusive, but only after the scene where he caught her with another man. Technically, they didn't have an official real relationship before (not ntr), but the desire to wait to try the Path of Purity after that is strong.

 

[Garden_In_Chains]

after Mike talk to her about a relationship, she can be made exclusive, but only after the scene where he caught her with another man. Technically, they didn't have an official real relationship before (not ntr), but the desire to wait to try the Path of Purity after that is strong.

Oh, is the Purity Path is going to take place before that event? Will find out soon regardless.

 

[marnosta]

Does Reona become exclusive to the MC once they are in an established relationship? Is there an actual committed romance taking place?

after Mike talk to her about a relationship, she can be made exclusive, but only after the scene where he caught her with another man. Technically, they didn't have an official real relationship before (not ntr), but the desire to wait to try the Path of Purity after that is strong.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[marnosta]

Oh, is the Purity Path is going to take place before that event? Will find out soon regardless.

Purity path is not developed yet. So you might want to avoid her in your playthrough till she gets it.

 

[marnosta]

There are 21 girls with more content than Reona, you will have full hands to juggle between them and trying not to screw up, that you will have zero thoughts about Reona. +2 more chicks added in the same DLC as Reona.

 

[Tehemai]

The Fractured But Whole defense! Love to see it. NTR is avoidable afaik, there are a few love interests that do start in relationships with people other than the mc, but you can avoid them getting dicked down if you don't want it to happen. The only one that you can easily stumble in on accidentally is the

Spoiler: Aletta/Lexi one

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, easy solution is to bang Aletta and you won't have to worry about it.

You can avoid watching her get dicked down. Last I checked, Dwayne fucks her behind MC's back regardless. Even after a point in your relationship where she will get mad at you for just kissing another girl. And after a point where she will activate showdowns for cheating that can lead to her leaving the game permanently.

This may have been edited but there was also even a conversation between MC and Aletta where MC point blank asks her if she cheated on him and she confirms it.