Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v25.4.0b] [Andrealphus]

[Feofan Grek]

I meant its not a one tap gain all,
You can add little or add it all.

In my opinion, cheats are evil, they destroy the whole game.
To beat Danny you need to go to the gym and work out there to a certain level. For a gym to appear, you need to buy sportswear, it is also advisable to buy a fitness car for which you need to earn money. To earn money you need to go to work and work there, while in order to earn more you need to go to university and study there. It takes time, but it's part of the game.
But you can get into your phone, press a few buttons - and you become a superman with a huge amount of money. You don't need to go to the gym, you don't need to go to work, you don't need to go to the university, you don't need to buy anything. A gym, work, university, by and large, are also unnecessary. That is, most of the game is not needed.
This is just one example, and there are plenty of such examples.
When using cheats, a huge part of the gameplay is lost. What is the point of playing at all then?

 

[plm0901]

It still annoys me that it looks like whoever drew the sprites and whoever drew the cgs are different artists. And it's weird Alexis looks pissed to be with you, even with her stats capped.

Plus I still hate the Kleio redesign.

True. It kinda feels weird that some of your favorite waifus looks so weird and differnet while you're having sex. But I can understand that because the dev is trying to make some content for every month. Even though the update might not be your taste, but at least it has something. Which includes a lot of cg scenes.

But yeah, the Kleio redesign seems really weird.

 

[Cartageno]

In my opinion, cheats are evil, they destroy the whole game.
To beat Danny you need to go to the gym and work out there to a certain level. For a gym to appear, you need to buy sportswear, it is also advisable to buy a fitness car for which you need to earn money. To earn money you need to go to work and work there, while in order to earn more you need to go to university and study there. It takes time, but it's part of the game.
But you can get into your phone, press a few buttons - and you become a superman with a huge amount of money. You don't need to go to the gym, you don't need to go to work, you don't need to go to the university, you don't need to buy anything. A gym, work, university, by and large, are also unnecessary. That is, most of the game is not needed.
This is just one example, and there are plenty of such examples.
When using cheats, a huge part of the gameplay is lost. What is the point of playing at all then?

While I agree with you here personally, many people are more interested in the story than the actual gameplay - not only here, some AAA games do include "story modes". It would not feel like a real story for me, too, because the "from rags to riches" advancement is cut out - "Yeah, finally, I made it so I can afford to invite that girl" - if you're starting as a Scrooge McDuck/Superman combo, but different people prefer it differently. Again, personally I like me some grind, I like raising stats and work for my success to feel an accomplishment instead of just getting everything thrown at me, but just like kinks, others think differently.

 

[acowasto]

In my opinion, cheats are evil, they destroy the whole game.
To beat Danny you need to go to the gym and work out there to a certain level. For a gym to appear, you need to buy sportswear, it is also advisable to buy a fitness car for which you need to earn money. To earn money you need to go to work and work there, while in order to earn more you need to go to university and study there. It takes time, but it's part of the game.

I disagree with your opinion.
You're assuming everyone is going to have fun by playing the game the way it was meant to be played and by using cheats they destroy the whole experience. But not everyone has your tastes.
For some people, like me, repeating the same few set of actions for long period of time, without seeing meaningful progress in a plot or not being rewarded for doing it, is not only boring, it's also a waste of my time.

But you can get into your phone, press a few buttons - and you become a superman with a huge amount of money. You don't need to go to the gym, you don't need to go to work, you don't need to go to the university, you don't need to buy anything. A gym, work, university, by and large, are also unnecessary. That is, most of the game is not needed.
This is just one example, and there are plenty of such examples.

You're also assuming some locations suddenly become unnecessary if you remove the grindy and boring part of the game, because they lost thier purpose. "Well yes, but actually no."
The most simple purpose of these locations is to just be. Yes, that's all, just to be there for you, so you can visit and look at them.
Second one is to build a world. Even, for exmple, if you don't drink coffee it doesn't mean coffee shop does't exist and other people in game don't drink it.
Another other is to be a background for your actions. If not for the grind, then for meeting and dating girls. Sure, if you want you can ask your waifu to marry you in a bathroom or you can ask her in the restaurant full of people during your perfect date.

When using cheats, a huge part of the gameplay is lost. What is the point of playing at all then?

When using cheats, at least in this game, you're skipping the grind, the most annoying and boring part of the gameplay. And it's not huge part. To be honest, it's somewhat about 1/5 of it.
The other parts of gameplay are the purpose, point, reason why people are playing the game. Basically, the whole "dating sim" experience. From simple meeting girls, through developing relationships with them, solving thier problems, to love making and even marrying them.

 

[the-mess]

But yeah, the Kleio redesign seems really weird.

Totally! Ruined the char for me.

 

[dendyelo]

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[charlesin]

How I get kink point for Kleio

 

[dendyelo]

How I get kink point for Kleio

Give "A sex slave's story" from Book Store

 

[charlesin]

Give "A sex slave's story" from Book Store

It's the only way to get kink points with her??

 

[dendyelo]

It's the only way to get kink points with her??

So far that's all.
Or use a cheat to increase Kleio KP.

 

[Limited20]

+How do I get my $ 500 back from these assholes?
Or is it just not worth following this girl?

50 strength + NO martial arts perk
25 strength + martial arts perk

If you have any of those you can beat him and you wont get robbed.
Lexi is personally my favourite girl in the game, even to she starts off super horrible with her slutty/bitchy attittude.
And this is comming from someone who hates sex workers/whores in such games.

She is totally worth it.
Btw as a side note, you can pair her with Sasha. Sadly no actual wedding ending with both of them .... yet

Here is how I got it:
1. Completely ignore Sasha at the start of the game (other female characters too)
2. Work and Gym should be your priority in the 1st week of the game (Lexi shows up after 7 days)
3. Only watch TV with Sasha (Music,SciFi) and try to each with Sasha every morning, to build passively LovePoints
4. Buy a lot of SexSlave Books and gift them to Sasha every day to build KinkPoints
5. DO NOT GIVE THE SLAVE COLLAR TO SASHA WHEN SHE IS AT 50 KINKPOINTS or it will bug her later on
6. Go on your 1st date with Sasha, doesnt matter where you take her, just have sex at the end of the date
7. When you get over 70 KinkPoints there will be an event where Sasha will willingly become your slave
8. Second Date with Sasha
9. Meet Lexi (the even where she tries to steal your money with that dude)
10. Start flirting with her to build Love Points, spank her ass to build KinkPoints
11. Proggress her story and events (You will have to buy a car to find her later on her story)
12. Before taking Lexi on dates, be sure to have Sasha at 100% Kink Points and Love Points
13. Take her on a date and meet Sasha during the date in the mall (best done Saturday)
14. Later when you meet Sasha again and she is your slave, and you are with Lexi, Sasha will NOT get mad for you cheating on her but she will ask you if Lexi is pleasing you.
15. Done for now, untill we get a wedding with them xD

Some notes: You have to have Sasha be your slave before going on a date with lexi and meeting Sasha during it.
Lexi will ask you later if she can become your sex slave.
DO NOT PIMP HER OUT. Come on man xd

Some people have mentioned in old comments that you can add Audry to the mix, but I have not managed to achieve this.
Currently im trying to add Samantha to the mix (with Sasha and Lexi) as a sex slave too. If you go down Samanthas REVENGE Path, you can make her your sex slave, but currently it bugged out on me, so im not doing something right her and will try again in a new playthrough

 

[jimmyjoo]

It's the only way to get kink points with her??

You can also take her on dates to the pub. She gets +2KP every time she plays pool.

 

[jimmyjoo]

So is the only way to really progress with Emma by courting her first before going after Sasha/Bree? How far do I need to take it before I can start moving on others?

 

[Konstantinus]

I disagree with your opinion.
You're assuming everyone is going to have fun by playing the game the way it was meant to be played and by using cheats they destroy the whole experience. But not everyone has your tastes.
For some people, like me, repeating the same few set of actions for long period of time, without seeing meaningful progress in a plot or not being rewarded for doing it, is not only boring, it's also a waste of my time.



You're also assuming some locations suddenly become unnecessary if you remove the grindy and boring part of the game, because they lost thier purpose. "Well yes, but actually no."
The most simple purpose of these locations is to just be. Yes, that's all, just to be there for you, so you can visit and look at them.
Second one is to build a world. Even, for exmple, if you don't drink coffee it doesn't mean coffee shop does't exist and other people in game don't drink it.
Another other is to be a background for your actions. If not for the grind, then for meeting and dating girls. Sure, if you want you can ask your waifu to marry you in a bathroom or you can ask her in the restaurant full of people during your perfect date.


When using cheats, at least in this game, you're skipping the grind, the most annoying and boring part of the gameplay. And it's not huge part. To be honest, it's somewhat about 1/5 of it.
The other parts of gameplay are the purpose, point, reason why people are playing the game. Basically, the whole "dating sim" experience. From simple meeting girls, through developing relationships with them, solving thier problems, to love making and even marrying them.

About it, some part of grind, specially in MMORPGs is needed but yeah, having the grind one time like here is enough. If for a savewipe or because of a later change a choice turned out wrong you do not want to have the whole grind again.

 

[bboyflashy]

The grind in this game is a little too real, and everything in between, HOLY $HIT.

 

[Feofan Grek]

So is the only way to really progress with Emma by courting her first before going after Sasha/Bree? How far do I need to take it before I can start moving on others?

Maybe there is another way, but I haven't found it. 60 hearts with Emma can be obtained by playing at any time, but at 60 she does not kiss or go on love dates. And then with her you need to get 3 Lovepoints, which you can get when going to the cinema with her, on a picnic in the park and overhearing her conversation with Bree at the university. It is imperative to get all 3 Lovepoints, otherwise nothing will happen. The simplest thing is a date at the cinema. There, in response to a question, you say that you like a kiss, and everything is OK. Then you go with her to a picnic in the park, and there she asks if you have someone? And she somehow already knows whether you have someone or not. If you have someone by this time (for some reason Samantha, Palla, Audrey and Lexi are not considered), if someone is already pregnant, if you deceived Emma by saying that there is no one, you will not get Lovepoint. And by the middle of the game, there are usually a lot of girlfriends with whom you have sex, and some of them may already be pregnant.
Next, you need to eavesdrop on the conversation between Emma and Bree at the university. There Emma asks what kind of relationship Bree has with you. And Bree honestly tells her: "Yes, we fuck with him like cats in March, and not only me, but Sasha and his sister fuck with him, and we have a harem there, and we are all pregnant with him." And that’s the end, you don’t get another Lovepoint either.
Then you meet with Emma, and she says to you: "You got fucked up with everyone here, but I can't do that, we'll just be friends." Or maybe not even friends.
I tried in various ways to get the maximum currently 80 hearts with her from the middle of the game, but nothing came of it. And since I really like her, I had to start the whole game all over again, and not meet with anyone all summer and autumn, until I scored maximum points with Emma.

 

[Feofan Grek]

In theory, you can try to do the following:
raise Emma to a certain level, if there are pregnant girls - remove all pregnancies from them through cheats, send everyone to Frendzone through the broken heart icon, and then try to raise Emma's level to the maximum, during this time without meeting anyone else. Then, to her question, it will be possible to give an honest answer that I have met with someone before, but this is all in the past, and Bree will say that now they do not meet.
Only I myself did not do that, so I cannot say if something good will turn out, and then whether it will be possible to return everything to the previous relationship with other girls.

 

[Discontented]

You know, I think Samantha has the best (marriage) ending. Her narration about life hit me right in the feels.

On a side note, does she only have the one sex position (doggy) outside her drunken visit after telling her about Ryan? Can't seem to unlock anything else.

 

[jimmyjoo]

In theory, you can try to do the following:
raise Emma to a certain level, if there are pregnant girls - remove all pregnancies from them through cheats, send everyone to Frendzone through the broken heart icon, and then try to raise Emma's level to the maximum, during this time without meeting anyone else. Then, to her question, it will be possible to give an honest answer that I have met with someone before, but this is all in the past, and Bree will say that now they do not meet.
Only I myself did not do that, so I cannot say if something good will turn out, and then whether it will be possible to return everything to the previous relationship with other girls.

Couldn't you just advance Samantha's story sufficiently to meet Emma and move forward and then go back to everyone else?

 

[Feofan Grek]

That's exactly what I did. Emma cannot appear in the game until Samanta is married. Samanta appears in the game a week after the start, not before. After that, there is a moment when Samanta needs to help with homework in the park, and she goes there on weekends, so another week. After that, you need to see Ryan at the nightclub, and from that moment another week until Samanta's wedding. In total, whatever you do, at least three weeks should pass from the start of the game. After that, Emma appears, which also has its own time intervals, therefore, with the fastest game, in order to score maximum points with her, you need at least three weeks, that is, it will already be the end of autumn.
All this time, naturally, as much as possible, I developed relationships with other girls, but I started dating them only after I got the maximum of Emma. Once Emma gets the most, she doesn't care who you date, how many slaves you have, who is pregnant or not.