Ren'Py Love & Sex Second Base [v25.12.0c] [Andrealphus]

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Waveshaper

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Cartageno said:
So far the cause is not known.
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Well, in most cases it's just RenPy - it's not really the most performant engine imaginable. If you then add some devs using unoptimized assets on top of it, I would say you already cover at least 80% of cases suffering from poor performance. Sure - the systems the games are run on are relevant to a degree as well - but RenPy isn't that great of a engine when it comes to performance - similar to Unity. And the reasons are usually known - but fixing them is not exactly the main focus of development.

In the particular case of L&S:SB the problems are also tied to the development practices as well - there are multiple aspects of the game that could be vastly improved on a conceptual level, that would reduce performance-impact further. It's nothing that solely have to be done on a technical level of the framework - it's often also tied to HOW devs code/develop on such engines.

L&S:SB suffers from a pretty poorly approach to navigating 'the world' that could be highly improved and/or streamlined to reduce asset-loading - at the same time such changes would improve the overall feel of the game and reduce the 'felt' grindiness many people regularily mention.

Unfortunately that's pretty much standard - what you can expect from non-professional coder/developer - and you can't really blame them, because you have to know one or two things about it to improve your own game/programs accordingly. Especially in this 'genre' of games it's usual that you deal with artists who learned enough to make things work - L&S:SB is even a rather elaborate project compared to the state of the scene. Still - even with RenPy getting more and more optimized - without elaborate structural changes games like this one will suffer from performance-issues. Devs could counter that problem with proper design-choices - but unfortunately that's usually not something they are mainly concerned with...
 
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Waveshaper said:
Well, in most cases it's just RenPy - it's not really the most performant engine imaginable. If you then add some devs using unoptimized assets on top of it, I would say you already cover at least 80% of cases suffering from poor performance. Sure - the systems the games are run on are relevant to a degree as well - but RenPy isn't that great of a engine when it comes to performance - similar to Unity. And the reasons are usually known - but fixing them is not exactly the main focus of development.

In the particular case of L&S:SB the problems are also tied to the development practices as well - there are multiple aspects of the game that could be vastly improved on a conceptual level, that would reduce performance-impact further. It's nothing that solely have to be done on a technical level of the framework - it's often also tied to HOW devs code/develop on such engines.

L&S:SB suffers from a pretty poorly approach to navigating 'the world' that could be highly improved and/or streamlined to reduce asset-loading - at the same time such changes would improve the overall feel of the game and reduce the 'felt' grindiness many people regularily mention.

Unfortunately that's pretty much standard - what you can expect from non-professional coder/developer - and you can't really blame them, because you have to know one or two things about it to improve your own game/programs accordingly. Especially in this 'genre' of games it's usual that you deal with artists who learned enough to make things work - L&S:SB is even a rather elaborate project compared to the state of the scene. Still - even with RenPy getting more and more optimized - without elaborate structural changes games like this one will suffer from performance-issues. Devs could counter that problem with proper design-choices - but unfortunately that's usually not something they are mainly concerned with...
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While all that may be true, it doesn't really explain why specifically LSSB shows this erratic behavior of running smoothly on some systems and having incredible lags on others without any discernible correlation between performance and system specifications.
 
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IceNeo2

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is anyone having trouble with the archive.rpa of the latest version? Whenever I try to unpack it that is the only file that gives me an error...
 
gnadudu

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IceNeo2 said:
is anyone having trouble with the archive.rpa of the latest version? Whenever I try to unpack it that is the only file that gives me an error...
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No issues here, just tested it with unren.bat:
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Which tool did you use?
 
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PREGCHAD

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What's the best mods to skip through the grind? I love the events, but doing a playthrough again because the updates have broken some of the dates unfortunately.
 
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IceNeo2 said:
I think that I wasn't very clear with my comment. I meant when trying to unpack it from the compressed zip archive file when you finish downloading from one of the links from the original post.
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Hmm, downloaded from NOPY and tested the archive with no errors:
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Deane9850

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PREGCHAD said:
What's the best mods to skip through the grind? I love the events, but doing a playthrough again because the updates have broken some of the dates unfortunately.
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Search for flowershop in this thread... There should be a flowershop.rpy code that you can copy and put it in the folder. Still work, altho some newer girls will not be included. Also the yuri pill is broken.
 
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HighGrove

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Can you only marry Lexi/Minami as part of the Home Harem? I proposed to Lexi solo but her wedding never procced. And I don't think I even saw the option for proposing to Minami individually.
 
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DRAKEE97

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HighGrove said:
Can you only marry Lexi/Minami as part of the Home Harem? I proposed to Lexi solo but her wedding never procced. And I don't think I even saw the option for proposing to Minami individually.
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It seems like it, I also tried but only could marry them in harem.
 
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IceNeo2

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How do you get the nightclub as an option for the date? Do I have to get the girl to a certain percentage before leaving so the date continues there or can I start there?
 
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PREGCHAD

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Deane9850 said:
Search for flowershop in this thread... There should be a flowershop.rpy code that you can copy and put it in the folder. Still work, altho some newer girls will not be included. Also the yuri pill is broken.
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Genuinely could not find anything.
 
ElMatadorDelMar

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Hey guys,

Does anyone of you know wich file contains the charater description like age, name and so on?
I saw that there is a character.py file but didnt find anything in there.
i like to change some things to make the game more personal ;)
 
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