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HTML - Love & Vice [R13] [MakinWaves]

  1. 4.00 star(s)

    iron4doves

    Short Review: I have avoided html games like the plague for the past... few years. I associate them with low quality and being a waste of time. Has this game changed my mind about that?... No. However, it is fapable, but probably only once. Also there is a lot of reading to do, and quite a bit of grinding without cheats (but it is manageable without). For fans of the genre, I recommend. For those who typically shy away from html games... it's a toss up. I'd put this at the bottom of your play list.

    Full Review:
    Recently I've found myself in a position where I seem to have tried most of the good stuff available, so I figured I'd try something different. I searched for "real porn" games and found one with high ratings that matched my kink preferences (trying to give the genre the best chance of success). Overall I did enjoy the experience, but I likely won't be coming back.

    Firstly, this game very much leans into the "novel" side of "visual novel". There is so much text, and realistically it is necessary because when you are using real porn, you can't make the actress do what you want or have the facial expression you want. You have to select clips and write the story around them. However, real porn doesn't really have a ton in the way of story, so you have to make up for that in writing. It's okay. It just BARELY works, imo, and that's not a great default starting place.

    Then, the gameplay mechanics are.... tolerable. There is a lot of repetitive actions, and a lot of gameplay choices that don't make sense. Example: later in the game you can go out for public sex anytime in a ~6 hour window, but early game you can only go shopping at a specific time of day (8:50AM), and clothes shopping is the way the game progresses. To get from clothes level to clothes level, you have to seduce (lewdly or lovingly) your woman (mom, tenant, aunt, whatever you want her to be), and you do so by making dialog choices that vary by time of day. Usually it takes a week or so to get from one level to the next so you repeat a LOT of dialog.

    Then, the H content itself. It's porn, right? And the dev chose an actress that has had a very active career, so there is plenty of source material. Again, "it works". I find the actress to be attractive, and the dialog written during H scenes is good quality, there is just a part of my brain that keeps reminding me that these are clips taken from something else.

    Anyways, that's sort of the theme of my experience: "it works". I'd give this 3.5 stars if I could. I understand I'm out of my element, and I suppose I would technically recommend it under certain circumstances, so I'll round up to 4. It feels like "a good html/real porn game", I just don't know if I would often recommend that genre to anyone in the first place.
  2. 5.00 star(s)

    LordCorwin

    Writing: 8/10
    Imagery: 8/10
    Gameplay: 8/10
    Kinks: 7/10
    Overall: 8/10

    Competent writing, a good supply of imagery, and choices that matter.

    A refreshing break from the abundance of hypnosis, mind control, and corruption via drugs/potions. This is a game where you use words to corrupt, but, the challenge is this mother isn't a blond bimbo so it's gonna take some work.

    You get two main paths to take in corrupting your MILF, love or lust. In love you can make her your mommy and in lust you make her your slut, or if you're a fan of both, you can walk the line and make her your slutty mommy. (guess which I went with)

    You also get to decide her career path, going from a waitress to a office lady, a stripper, or a model. You can ever have her work double for extra content, being your office assistant during the week and a model during the weekend.

    Be advised however, this game does include the option to share. The modeling gig can lead to porn if you choose, never the less, the option is there. Same for the office, you can send your mother off to "inspire" the employees to work harder, faster, and better. I imagine the stripper job has similar options, though I did not figure out how to get her said gig.

    Overall this is a fantastic real porn HTML game, highly reccomended.
  3. 5.00 star(s)

    AHD

    This should serve as a role model for html games.

    This was thoroughly tested, i only saw a single non-breaking bug.

    The grindy elements are stream-lined, always rewarded and don't require many clicks.

    Well sourced movie and picture material.

    Really great job!
  4. 2.00 star(s)

    popabear

    [Release 3.5] Review

    What it is:
    A mother-son (landlady-tenant) corruption game with questionable coding and quite a lot of grind and time wasting mechanics. The art is all clipped from real life porn. There are 2 mini management games in this game, office and strip club, but they don't really add much besides being a huge time sink.

    Pros: The porn bits are quite nice sometimes. Scene descriptions can be quite hot.

    Cons:
    Very inconsistent coding. Menus appear in different places.
    Confusing progression. You can only go buy clothes at exactly 8.50 Saturday morning. If you happen to miss this timeslot then you have to wait a week to progress, since buying clothes is central to progressing for some reason.
    Time wasting grind. There's too much of it. I got really bored.
    The management game is unnecessarily complicated and wastes a lot of time.
    Game breaking bug (or I'm retarded). At one point I needed level 9 clothing but there was no way for me to unlock it. I tried all the usual stuff and maxed out corruption. Maybe there's some other trigger i need to progress but I couldn't be bothered to look very hard for it.

    I don't recommend this game.
  5. 5.00 star(s)

    silentmonkpk

    Alot of content even though it's early. I thought it would be something more like an hour at max but it took me nearly 4 hours to get through the content. Worth a try. It only has two characters you can interact with but I prefer that kind of game. If you're looking for a harem it might come in the future but not right now in version 3.5
  6. 5.00 star(s)

    Deleted member 1112850

    nice story it captures some of the sexual tension between the characters which I really like, UI is one of the best html has to offer . Props to the dev for amount of content he has released in each update
  7. 5.00 star(s)

    sfxsfx

    Really, really excellent One of These. You probably already know what this game entails (there have been a million of these HTML corruption games), but the execution is fantastic.

    Large amount of content that already feels near-complete (even though I'm sure it's nowhere close to being done), satisfying progression, well-written storyline, well-balanced grind. Great. I expect it to be straight-up the best One of These out there in a couple of updates.
  8. 5.00 star(s)

    br0nt

    Solid way to kill time. There is coherent if fantastical progression. Enough to create some semblance of build-up, but not enough to truly be called grind.

    I second the wish that the female lead was someone else, I'm not the biggest fan of horseface and bolted on tits, but I have trouble thinking of someone with enough range of content or expressions.

    Dev, thanks for sharing, and keep up the fantastic work.

    5/7 across the board.
  9. 5.00 star(s)

    whiskeyrose

    At time of review there is only 1 character, but the writing and gameplay loop is very solid. The game is crisp and well put together even in its early form, would really recommend it!

    Only criticisms I have is that I'm not a huge fan of the mom model, but it's not a dealbreaker. I can see why the developer decided to use her, as she has a lot of intimate scenes and then a lot of lewd scenes/pics to pull from.

    I'm also not as huge as a fan of the love vs lewd system. Seeing as how the path branches right at the start, you end up not so much making choices during events as much as just clicking the hearts or lewd symbols based on your route. Maybe that'll be different when there's more characters.

    Anyway, it's a great project better than most of the shit here. Give it a go!
  10. 5.00 star(s)

    Deleted member 14524

    The best HTML game on this site bar none. Nothing really comes even close. Mark my words, after this game gets more updates it will be THE best game on this site period.

    -For a revision 3 release theres lots of content for both vanilla people and explicit stuff too.
    -The writing is excelent all around.
    -Steps to "Level" up your relationship make sense and are overall very enjoyable.
    -Systems work as they should.
    -Minimal amount of bugs on release.
    -Very helpfull and engaging developer.
  11. 5.00 star(s)

    PHSummoner

    I expected this to be another quick made HTML game with no story/progression whatsoever. I've never been so wrong lol. This is probably one of the best mom trainer game on f95. I highly recommend everyone to give it a try. You won't be dissapointed.
  12. 5.00 star(s)

    Mount Parnassus

    Very good game. Although in early development, it has a vast number of fetishes. It's easy to play and nothing compared to the grinding other HTML games require. Also, it's quite well written and has an interesting story. Again, a very good game.
  13. 3.00 star(s)

    curiouslycruising

    Playing v2.1

    Overall, a solid game. Writing is good, pictures are good, story makes sense.

    The main problem comes with progression and time management. Like many other games, this one allows you to spend time unites to progress the day. Unfortunately, there isn't enough for you to do in a day, so you end up using the "skip time" feature a lot.

    This ties into the second problem; goal progression. Because of the scarcity of activities, I would find myself just skipping to the next day once I'd completed the day's activities. This meant that I was skipping over the activation time to progress the story forward. I finally used the "Goals" guide to understand how to move forward, and understood what was going wrong. But it did take away from my enjoyment of the game.
  14. 5.00 star(s)

    konabwo

    solid datesim RP sandbox

    (review time. v 2.1)
    good build up, progression & immersion.
    no crucial bugs.
    quite polished.
    solid qol.

    traceable story (as there were no walls of text which make not-a-readers like me skip everything)
    no excessive grind. (so i havent even tweaked milf love and lewd. points came with almost a natural flow - as i tweaked cash and energy :] )

    ...
    all that makes this game nice RP m/f sandbox (and my gaming experience - enjoyable)

    there are not many games to compare it premise-wise as mostly RP m/f "datesims" have 3 or more fems to interact. i probably know 3 with only one female to interact (2moms, 1neighbour). but such are left behind due to different reasons
  15. 5.00 star(s)

    Jumbosauce

    (Reviewed v0.2 January 2021)

    Bottom line: Good game! Download and consider supporting the creator!

    Pros:
    Writing is top-notch. One of the best games out there for writing quality.
    UI is top-notch for a real-porn game. Surprisingly good!
    Pacing is slow but steady. Great if you like the build-up phase, like me.

    Cons:
    Just the 1 female to seduce at the moment.
    Job / Money system seems a little underdeveloped and a bit slow.
    The model (Alexis Fawx) is not my type. Not bad, but not my #1 choice.

    Again, play this game, consider supporting (I know I am), and keep an eye on this one, it's gonna be a gooood one!
  16. 5.00 star(s)

    Dareios

    Surprisingly good for a HTML game, even though it is in its early stages - the existing foundation is good, and there is enough content present to make playing through currently worthwhile - the pacing is good, as it very much moves away from the usual HTML trope of "Hey I'm your mother, let's fuck!", and is a lot more realistic in that aspect. The game has a little bit of a grind, but it is not overall bad, the only issue I have with it, is that for certain events (like buying clothes for the female), you have to skip through days or just grind money to be able to do it, though it does get better as you go on - the later developments with the job system also seem to have good potential, but they are not fleshed out enough for me to make a fair judgement yet.

    Some may be disappointed at the fact the game only features one other character (apart from the MC), but with the use of real life porn for the images etc., I think it works a lot better, as the dev can focus on getting good images for a single person that fit, rather than throwing in a ton of random fixed gifs for an event, along with dialogue that can be built well around these images

    I look forward to the future releases, and hope the dev can continue in their good direction.
  17. 5.00 star(s)

    King In Yellow

    Definitely shows potential. Thoroughly enjoyed. Needs more content but since this is a first release it's understandable. Quality over Quantity.

    I only remember encountering 1 bug (though I did not record it's position) and I overall found the dialogue to be engaging and interesting.
  18. 5.00 star(s)

    HoratioTheGreat

    Great for a first release, found it a tiny bit grindy but tolerably so, and I think the overall progression speed is just right. My only recommendation would be to maybe try to have two images for some of the common scenes.
  19. 5.00 star(s)

    Gregk

    This game deserves a 5-star review just for choosing Alexis Fawx as the actress to portray the landlady/m*ther.
    I might be biased on this, but she's superb.
    However, I have to say that the rest of the game is excellent. The system is very well thought, the script doesn't resort to supernatural reasons to explain the character's corruption, and I think that's a plus.
    Also, there's lots of content for a Release 1, that's for sure.
    So, I really recommend this game, and look forward to next releases.
  20. 5.00 star(s)

    lolomat123

    Very strong first release with only a single character but quite a bit of unlockable content for that one. Progression (=corruption) is nice and not too grindy, with obvious and simple tasks. For the amount of content the game size is also fairly optimized.

    If this is kept up with more content for the existing and new characters, this game has potential to be one of the best ones out there.