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VN Ren'Py Lust Haven Island! Forbidden Shores [v0.1] [Roze]

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SpyderArachnid

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As much as I enjoy a love path in an NTR/NTS game (it's fun dodging everything lol), I'm glad the dev went this direction instead. The game is already set up as an NTS game, even before the new changes, so having a love path would feel out of place and tacked on just for the sake of having it.
 
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dduck7929

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I'd rather have one route than more than 20.
Then you have to wait 8 months for an update per route.
Well, unless they prefer to squeeze their Patreons.
They did well, hahahahaha
8 months for each 20-minute update.
They have to squeeze those 13,000 Patreons.
:D
That's the new formula for these ai slop games. Squeeze the supporters for every dime, rework past scenes. Eventually restart the game from scratch or just abandon.
 

RozeGamez

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Between the looks of the guys and shots of them shirtless all up on each other, I'm guessing a gay tag is on the way.
no hate to people who enjoy that content, but no gay content will be made for this game.

I'd rather have one route than more than 20.
Then you have to wait 8 months for an update per route.
Well, unless they prefer to squeeze their Patreons.
They did well, hahahahaha
8 months for each 20-minute update.
They have to squeeze those 13,000 Patreons.
:D
This is exactly why I decided to cut the love path. If I had kept all three paths, each one would’ve taken around 3–4 months to update since I’d have to keep cycling through the others.

I want to be as fair as possible to the people supporting me, and honestly, around 90% of you are here for the NTR/NTS paths anyway. So far, updates have been coming out every 3 weeks, but that’s only because they were essentially “half-day” updates.

From now on, updates may take about a month (maybe a little over), since I’ll be producing full day’s worth of content each time.
 
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There was going to be a vanilla love path, but the dev decided to pare that down to just NTR and NTS.

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This is good. Love routes in NTS/NTR focused games are almost always barebones and offer very little unique content other than dialogue changes and skipping a ton of stuff. Best to focus on what makes the game what it is and save a lot of time in development.
 
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This is good. Love routes in NTS/NTR focused games are almost always barebones and offer very little unique content other than dialogue changes and skipping a ton of stuff. Best to focus on what makes the game what it is and save a lot of time in development.
Yep. The love path is almost always the "would you like to miss 90% of the content in this game?" option. And also just makes following the NTS/NTR paths confusing as hell without built in choice tags because you'll select an option like "I'm not comfortable with this" thinking it will be the NTR route, only to find out the female lead is actually going to be a decent person and respect your wishes.

Actually had that problem a lot with Netorase Phone despite most choices being tagged, because half the time I'll select a minor option like that hoping to get a hard NTS/humiliation response from the FMC, only to realize the dev likes to use those choices to directly ask you whether you want to see certain content, and the love interests almost always do whatever the MC asks, even on the submissive cuckold route :LOL:
 

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no hate to people who enjoy that content, but no gay content will be made for this game.



This is exactly why I decided to cut the love path. If I had kept all three paths, each one would’ve taken around 3–4 months to update since I’d have to keep cycling through the others.

I want to be as fair as possible to the people supporting me, and honestly, around 90% of you are here for the NTR/NTS paths anyway. So far, updates have been coming out every 3 weeks, but that’s only because they were essentially “half-day” updates.

From now on, updates may take about a month (maybe a little over), since I’ll be producing full day’s worth of content each time.
This is my last comment. I'm no one to tell you what to do.
It's your game, no one can tell you what to do.
Positive or negative consequences define your actions, bro.
But if you're consistent, you'll win over people like me who, despite being on a pirate page, support several Patreon projects.
If you're consistent and don't lie, I'll even spam you so more people can see the project.
But if you lie and deceive the people who put their trust in you, bro.
They'll never forget it.
If you see that you don't like the direction of the game or are having personal problems, let the people who are supporting you know, don't disappear.
Don't make them lose money.
Because they'll never forget it.
That's all my last comment. Good luck with your project.
 

moozoo

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I played the NTR path, not bad at all, it is written actually quite well. My only frustration was about the kiss from Poppy and how he got caught, it looked a bit too cheesy and forced. I'd enhance a bit that portion in some way because that is a turning point in the story, it can't be that flat.

And hopefully, the NTR path will explore the mystery side of things, so that the MC doesn't have the full picture.
 
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herrderr75

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no hate to people who enjoy that content, but no gay content will be made for this game.
You're afraid that not creating explicitly gay content will be taken as a evidence of hate? Yes, the world has gone crazy, but is it really that level of crazy?
 

RozeGamez

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You're afraid that not creating explicitly gay content will be taken as a evidence of hate? Yes, the world has gone crazy, but is it really that level of crazy?
not afraid. was just covering my words being taken out of context that I'm opposed to them ideas in a hateful way. don't see the issue.
 

RozeGamez

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I played the NTR path, not bad at all, it is written actually quite well. My only frustration was about the kiss from Poppy and how he got caught, it looked a bit too cheesy and forced. I'd enhance a bit that portion in some way because that is a turning point in the story, it can't be that flat.

And hopefully, the NTR path will explore the mystery side of things, so that the MC doesn't have the full picture.
so there are future plot points for why poppy was so quick to hop in on kai. that's all i will say to avoid spoilers. but thanks for the feedback I'm glad you're enjoying it so far :)
 

moozoo

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so there are future plot points for why poppy was so quick to hop in on kai. that's all i will say to avoid spoilers. but thanks for the feedback I'm glad you're enjoying it so far :)
As for me, everything seems to be on the surface, Poppy was sent by Leon to set a trap, at least this is how it looks so far. My only wish is to make this important moment more natural. For example, it doesn't make sense MC getting nvited to the pub by his friend, and then that same friend leaving him alone by going to sauna. Given how well the other portions are written, this event deserves a more intelligent twist.

On the positive side, I'd like to note how well MC's emotions are emphasized when his girlfriend left the room right after the fight. The way he questions his own behavior and all, are just perfect.
 
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Hentai_Desu-ka?

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Well, I haven't completed either path NTS/ NTR in this new update yet, but I notice that the pacing of as soon as they get on the island it's still already automatically clothes off like it's nothing, so that hasn't changed. If Site B is supposed to be the Nudist side of the island then this is just merely breaking immersion, we're not even clear on whether or not the group are located within Site B yet and here they are already just embracing non-nonchalantly to being exposed.

I don't want to be too critical or criticize this choice in decision too early but I gotta say, again, that still feels way too extremely fast for the pacing. As I mentioned the last time I spoke about it, the group KNOWS (or am I mistaken somehow?) that they are all going to an Island Resort that has a Nudist side right? 1. They (much less Kai) should not be shocked by that fact. And 2. If they are not on Site B yet, then Leon is in direct violation of the Island Resorts policy which is normally a very strict & heavily enforced thing in real life that if violated, not just customers on the island but staff members as well would be severely punished by being banned and in this case immediately find themselves on the next plane out off the island -- not saying that Kai would rat out his brother, but that could be a plot development later for an ending where Kai gets his brother fired from his job on the island as a sort of "revenge", so who knows.

But, this is a game I understand, it's completely fiction, I just thought that this part specifically would've been reworked since the Dev said he was gonna look into it. I don't know, maybe I'm making too big of a deal out of it. The games development is still very early so I'm gonna give it a chance. The pacing to just going from 0 to 100 being okay with being completely embracing the Nudist thing is too fast. Are they or are they not on Site B? That's the big thing I'd like to know, because if the group are assigned pods (housing) on Site A then the Nudist policy would be very strictly and heavily enforced to kick them out as some other customers would complain that they feel uncomfortable by being exposed to that as they may have children there present on a vacation that should hopefully exclude that sort of exposure on that side of the island.

I feel like I'm making too big of a deal out of that so I feel like an asshole for saying as much, so I apologize ahead of time.
 

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Well, I haven't completed either path NTS/ NTR in this new update yet, but I notice that the pacing of as soon as they get on the island it's still already automatically clothes off like it's nothing, so that hasn't changed. If Site B is supposed to be the Nudist side of the island then this is just merely breaking immersion, we're not even clear on whether or not the group are located within Site B yet and here they are already just embracing non-nonchalantly to being exposed.

I don't want to be too critical or criticize this choice in decision too early but I gotta say, again, that still feels way too extremely fast for the pacing. As I mentioned the last time I spoke about it, the group KNOWS (or am I mistaken somehow?) that they are all going to an Island Resort that has a Nudist side right? 1. They (much less Kai) should not be shocked by that fact. And 2. If they are not on Site B yet, then Leon is in direct violation of the Island Resorts policy which is normally a very strict & heavily enforced thing in real life that if violated, not just customers on the island but staff members as well would be severely punished by being banned and in this case immediately find themselves on the next plane out off the island -- not saying that Kai would rat out his brother, but that could be a plot development later for an ending where Kai gets his brother fired from his job on the island as a sort of "revenge", so who knows.

But, this is a game I understand, it's completely fiction, I just thought that this part specifically would've been reworked since the Dev said he was gonna look into it. I don't know, maybe I'm making too big of a deal out of it. The games development is still very early so I'm gonna give it a chance. The pacing to just going from 0 to 100 being okay with being completely embracing the Nudist thing is too fast. Are they or are they not on Site B? That's the big thing I'd like to know, because if the group are assigned pods (housing) on Site A then the Nudist policy would be very strictly and heavily enforced to kick them out as some other customers would complain that they feel uncomfortable by being exposed to that as they may have children there present on a vacation that should hopefully exclude that sort of exposure on that side of the island.

I feel like I'm making too big of a deal out of that so I feel like an asshole for saying as much, so I apologize ahead of time.
Thanks for the comment, I will try to clear some of this up for you hopefully.

The characters aren’t aware that part of the island is a nudist resort. They were offered tickets by Nick and expected a normal holiday resort. It’s only when they arrive and talk with Leon that they discover they are staying at Site B, the nudist side of the resort. This surprise amplifies the awkwardness and helps set up the comedic and erotic tension.

The reason nudity on the island is almost immediate and shocking is intentional—it’s a great way to thrust the characters (and players) into awkward, high-tension situations right from the start. Since the holiday is only a week long, this approach helps the story flow naturally without long delays before the first “spicy” interactions.

On the NTS route (the only fully reworked route so far), Izzy and Nick strip quickly because they’re free-spirited and carefree, comfortable with nudity and eager to push boundaries. Leon intervenes, reminding them they’re technically still on Site A, creating a funny “oops” moment.


On the NTR route, the dynamics are different. Leon has lived on the island for years and is completely desensitized to nudity—he’s unfazed by anything the characters do. This contrast emphasizes the characters’ personalities and reactions depending on the route, while keeping the island’s nudist setting consistent and believable.
 

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Thanks for the comment, I will try to clear some of this up for you hopefully.

The characters aren’t aware that part of the island is a nudist resort. They were offered tickets by Nick and expected a normal holiday resort. It’s only when they arrive and talk with Leon that they discover they are staying at Site B, the nudist side of the resort. This surprise amplifies the awkwardness and helps set up the comedic and erotic tension.

The reason nudity on the island is almost immediate and shocking is intentional—it’s a great way to thrust the characters (and players) into awkward, high-tension situations right from the start. Since the holiday is only a week long, this approach helps the story flow naturally without long delays before the first “spicy” interactions.

On the NTS route (the only fully reworked route so far), Izzy and Nick strip quickly because they’re free-spirited and carefree, comfortable with nudity and eager to push boundaries. Leon intervenes, reminding them they’re technically still on Site A, creating a funny “oops” moment.


On the NTR route, the dynamics are different. Leon has lived on the island for years and is completely desensitized to nudity—he’s unfazed by anything the characters do. This contrast emphasizes the characters’ personalities and reactions depending on the route, while keeping the island’s nudist setting consistent and believable.
I'm just gonna hang back for a few updates, at this rate I'm not sure what direction you're going with it. My opinion hopefully I don't want you to feel discouraged I would love it if you continued making the game you want. My feedback should be nothing more than background noise.

My opinion so far still stands.

- The pace is way too fast. When I say too fast, I mean literally it's like driving 120mph in a 10mph school zone. The full-on embrace of nudity makes it feel like the game we're playing is literally starting near the middle of the game, closer to the end of end-game content, especially for not just the first fight, but most definitely for the second fight in the NTR path.

- A nude beach resort plot device doesn't necessarily do what you want it to do for me. I can't quite explain it without sounding rude as if rejecting the idea entirely, it just feels like it's trying to force that tension instead of happening naturally. Part of this problem is asking the audience to assume that Kai is stupid & dense, but he comes off as being at least competent if that makes sense, so it makes no sense why he reacts the way he does meanwhile the rest of the group are just okay with it, (even IF Iris and Nick are explained away as just being "Wild"). Kai and Nick supposedly have been best buddies for this supposedly long time, yet he comes off as if he acts like he doesn't even know Kai at all even as Kai expresses concerns and for some reason comes off as a prude, and that's without mentioning how fast and nonchalant Yumi reacts as if she knew it was a Nudist resort this entire time and is just blaming Kai as if he's the stupid weird one who didn't know making it seem like she was prepared for it the entire time.

- In regards to the fights that Kai & Yumi have. They feel forced. The first fight, Yumi is offended that Kai calls her "stupid" and somehow she's at the same time feels offended that Kai feels betrayed. Kai caves near instantly and starts blaming himself -- why? It was explained before that both Kai and Yumi have had many ups & downs having been in many arguments before, yet we're to assume that this time was different? Again, talking about the first fight they have. So Yumi storms off, and takes her sweet time to calm down taking a shower while Kai sits there in the pod blaming himself. This makes it feel like Kai has no backbone while at the same time we're supposed to assume that he's at least not the typical cuck stereo-type who is dense and isn't the least bit suspicious about something.

- The second fight also feels forced and it happens like from what I can tell in the same day as the first fight, and somehow it makes sense that Yumi is okay with running to Kai's brother Leon -- as if this decision is going to make things better with Kai as "revenge" to "get back" at Kai for kissing Poppy. Now, I've been in a situation before where a girl kissed me while I was dating someone, and word got to her before I could explain anything to her -- my then girlfriend overreacted and didn't even want to hear my explanation because for some reason all of her friends decided it was a good idea to go running their mouths saying that this other girl and I had shared a kiss. The other girl, forced that kiss on me, I didn't kiss back and I also didn't put any moves on her, it was literally her trying to shoot her shot and her getting rejected immediately which my then-girlfriend did not know that side of the story. Once my then-girlfriend finally did get my side of the story, she tried begging me to get back with her trying to apologize -- I rejected her and decide I wasn't going to date anybody because at that point not only did one girl seem to intentionally sabotage a relationship I wanted to build, my reputation around the school started floating around about how I was now a "player", I got attention from a lot of girls who were curious and of course many of them wanted to get with me, but every one of them I just rejected and moved on till I dropped out.

The moral of that story is that the scene where Poppy kisses Kai kinda hits home for me only a slight difference. Sure, my then-girlfriend was mad at me and didn't want to listen to me, but after a while the girl who tried to sabotage our relationship came clean and confessed to her that she was the one that kissed me and that I had flat-out rejected her advances, she literally ambushed me with a kiss that I had no time at all to react otherwise if I had saw her or realized her intentions, I would've shut that down before it ever happened. Therefore for the second fight to make sense, give players the option where we control Kais actions there where we let him get close enough to Poppy for the kiss to take place, or to decide that he's not going to let her get close enough to do that. I know that we want a second fight here to take place but, it can happen a little more naturally given the fact that Yumi supposedly walks in on and witnesses the kiss that she should've known right away that it was Poppy making the moves, not Kai.

That situation should've been utilized to where Yumi finally understands why Kai reacted the way he did during the first fight, and would have taken that moment as a learning experience. But again, as she did before, she stormed out without hearing what Kai had to say. If I was able to reach out to my then-girlfriend back then way before any of her friends could run their mouths to her, she wouldn't have reacted the way she did and we might have still continued dating. Not only was there any trust between us anymore, she couldn't trust me that I wouldn't cheat on her and I couldn't trust her that she would hear me out when someone else came on to me, it just had to end there and I ended it because it was the perfect convenient excuse to end the relationship because I decided if we can't even trust each other then we were not right for each other.

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Now, having said all that I just hope the game proceeds smoothly and you keep up the good work (seriously don't change the entire game just because of me, the games development is way too early for me to finalize my opinion). I will however wait until like 5 or 6 more updates before I demo this game again. I'll become a member of your Patreon in the mean time because the current development shows promise.

Have a nice day.
 
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moozoo

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But again, as she did before, she stormed out without hearing what Kai had to say.
Well, this scene looks plausible, I would expect a girl to storm out without hearing anything. I just miss the details that led to this point - she went to some abstract sauna, Nick suddenly left to sauna as well, the MC not questioning about sauna at all, no single picture of that sauna. Too quick and too superficial.

Kai caves near instantly and starts blaming himself -- why?
I didn't find that forced. On the contrary, that's a very typical reaction after the fight, questioning yourself whether you overreacted, especially when the loved one storms out.

how fast and nonchalant Yumi reacts as if she knew it was a Nudist resort this entire time and is just blaming Kai as if he's the stupid weird one
Agree on this one, Yumi took off her clothes too quickly, especially if we recall her reaction when she witnessed Nick in the bathroom. A story with proper NTR requires a love interest that is seen as a pious woman, not a depraved one.
 
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