only like 3 npcs have extra 'bed animation' the mermaid, Rika and Shino.
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Positions are based on form of interaction (rape/consensual) and Character type.
Consensual Female
Adult Natives have 3 "positions", DLC ones only 2 "positions" +1 if Caress is considered a "position"... but since they are only slight variations of the same initial position this might be why you think it's only one
Rape depends on wether they are sleeping on the ground or got defeated by grapple.
Honestly I'd rather say animations at this point... but as far as I recall you can initiate some more positions by useing grapple on a consenting Character (standing doggy and stuff)
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Wait is it better to capture low level natives than high level ones?
Are you saying we can customize and scale up low level ones faster than high level ones?
Cause from what I can see the higher level natives start with higher base attack and HP / Stun values, but all their skills only cost 1 point to upgrade (between 1-10 level), 2 points upgrade (between 20-30), etc.... cause they start with 0 unallocated skill points. Cause if a high level native starts with 25 attack, it would only take them 10 skill points to get to 35 attack? While low level natives start with like 10 attack, which means to get to 35 attack you would need allocate like 45 skill point? Though I am not sure how the supposed +100 exp per level factors in.
Am I confused or missing something?
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But it takes much longer to Level them up as they are not at Level 1.
Level up a level 0 Character (offspring of any Character) and they increase their Level within minutes... have one with Level 50 and you might notice a Level up after several hours of playing.
Sure their base values are higher, but you can't improve those unless you Level them up... and if you assign them to mundane gathering tasks this will take extremly long... so not sure wether Low Level character you individually Leveled are better or not than widely spread NPCs you captured in villages or raids.
For example a gatherer doesn't need HP, Speed would be the most important stat... maybe strength as secondary.
Speed improves movement speed.
And gathering speed and ability is normally dependend on used tools
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There is only one DLC.
DLC contains 2 new types of generic native, 1 unique NPC, and crafting recipes related to the generic natives.
I did a quick experiment on this by capturing an extremely high level female large native (lvl 552) and a low level one (lvl 32) and raising the latter to lvl 552, by cheating myself an ungodly amount of the largest wonder berries. I also allocated points the same way the game does (50% hp 50% attack). The result was
Starts at 552: HP: 6975; Attack: 1420
Lvl up to 552: HP: 9925; Attack: 1965
So the one I raised became considerably stronger that the one I got as is. The upside is that without cheating or grinding to an ungogly degree, you're never gonna get a character that high up. Also the stun bar doest seem to go up as you lvl up at all: 6824 for the starter one, 572 for the one I leveld up.
That said, and putting aside all the arcane math that is probably too much effort to figure out for a fairly easy game like this, I think the main takeway is that if you want fighters for raids, it's best to get them from the raids themselves. Get Yona's chaos heart wand and the chaos totem, summon a really high level raid with only a couple people in it, and use the wand's heavy attack to knock them out - new fighters acquired. For workers, anyone will do.
I was talking more about like Native NPCs near the starting beach that are like level 8 vs the level 47 Natives next to the entrance of the Cyborg lab.
But yeah I think your experiment pretty conclusively answered the question of scaling per level that capturing low level NPC is better in the long run.
My question is does stun value on NPCs even matter after you capture them? Cause no enemies do stun damage right? It only matters to the player because the player / companion has to bash them over the head with clubs / grapple them down?
Also an interesting thing I noticed was that level 47 male natives have 50 starting attack while the level 47 female ones only have 25 despite having the same stats in everything else.
The lizards in the chaos cave do stun damage, also the dlc villager males, who have a club.
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Though it doesn't matter on wether you are K.O. by physical or stun damage.
It's not like a stuned Character gets treated any other way to a defeated one.
Well kinda, HP you recover when not drawing aggro, stun damage you have to go to bed (inside a building) to recover. That alone makes the lizards the most annoying enemy in the game.
Also,
Any examples you can link? That got me curious.
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Most recent I have found was this one
https://f95zone.to/threads/mad-island-v0-27-beta-e-made.209671/post-15930889
But I kinda remember someone posting about a platform base being surrounded by purple spikes with a singele liane arc entrance afterwards... couldn't find it anymore though.
Pretty much build some walls like a room, put alot of spikes inside and maybe also place a pillar with a Platform in the middle and get MC upstairs, remove the stair and just wait for the Raid to kill itself while trying to touch MC...
There are other options awell obviously but it's really only a matter of your own time and imagination
1. What
If anything his test proved that capturing higher and higher level npcs is far better than leveling a character from scratch. You are not getting anyone to lvl 500+ without cheating or abusing level geometry to farm kills, but at that point why not just capture said high level characters instead of killing?
In 100+ hours the highest level npc in my settlement is just lvl 58.
I popped some totems down and easily(relatively) got a lvl 200+ Amazon woman, no extra time wasted leveling from 0.
The "long run" strategy is to just capture higher and higher level npcs- you are not catching up to that level in any reasonable time.
2. Stun values matter if your females get captured and you take too long to save them. High stun value means longer time before they go unconscious and get penetrated by the enemy.
3. women are generally weaker than men, more news at 11
Well, I just wanted to prove that there is indeed a stat loss when grabbing an high level npc from the raids, rather than raising one yourself. And for the record I did redo the "test" to a more manageable lvl 50, using a lvl 1 female native.
started at lvl 50: HP: 145 Attack: 26
Raise lvl 1-60: HP: 190 Attack: 36
As for what's better, I guess that's a matter of how you want to have fun. I mean get a chaos totem and a chaos heart wand and you can put a lvl 2000 amazon in your pocket in no time, but it's not like you can use her for much besides fight more raids without being absurdly OP. Hand raising their levels means they grow alonside the rest of your vilagers, including the unique characters and the "animals", rather than just make them obsolete.