Make sure to sign the Petition to stop Payment Processors from dictating what platforms can sell to us.

TeakOxls

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Honestly, I know it's not what they're for, but I'm still half-tempted to ask the mods to make this a pinned post. Anyway, this link also has resources to call/email payment processors the same way Collective Shout did:

 

tuvrelm11

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I've been pretty blackpilled on free speech and artistic freedom recently. Everything gets censored despite literally millions of users not wanting it and complaining about it, and companies losing significant percentages of profits and also not wanting it.

All it takes is a dozen blue-haired-feminists/bible-thumping-nutjobs to complain in a letter with less than a hundred signatures and entire governments or multi-billion multinational companies cave in. Probably because they want the same and are using this shit as a smokescreen.

I'll try to sign it, but I don't see what a billion voices can achieve against a single nutjob with a psychotic ideology. The past week has been a hell of a ride.
 

TeakOxls

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I've been pretty blackpilled on free speech and artistic freedom recently. Everything gets censored despite literally millions of users not wanting it and complaining about it, and companies losing significant percentages of profits and also not wanting it.

All it takes is a dozen blue-haired-feminists/bible-thumping-nutjobs to complain in a letter with less than a hundred signatures and entire governments or multi-billion multinational companies cave in. Probably because they want the same and are using this shit as a smokescreen.

I'll try to sign it, but I don't see what a billion voices can achieve against a single nutjob with a psychotic ideology. The past week has been a hell of a ride.
Yeah, the smokescreen mention is the real accurate part here. I'm often in the same camps as those 'blue-haired feminists', and even when there's tens of thousands of us, nothing actually gets done unless it was something the corpos actually wanted to get done in the first place, or they need good PR to coverup something heinous that they've done. This is really the payment processors pushing their own agenda, and Collective Shout just gave them plausible deniability. (But still, fuck Collective Shout and their agenda of censorship.)

Worst case, if a billion voices and hundreds of thousands of signatures can't do something, maybe a heroic green plumber or two can.
 

Barbfrank

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The petition in the UK was recently ignored with the government barely paying lip service to it and ignoring most of the actual talking points. It's depressing AF.
 
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If Patreon bans all NSFW content (which will happen eventually let's be honest here) then I guess the space will be close to death. It will be at that point where serious considerations are made for the obvious alternative (crypto)
 
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Count Morado

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If Patreon bans all NSFW content (which will happen eventually let's be honest here) then I guess the space will be close to death. It will be at that point where serious considerations are made for the obvious alternative (crypto)
Patreon banned the same content 8 years ago that you are seeing Itch and Steam getting around to banning this month and Patreon still hosts over 9,000 adult game developers today -- and growing from 5,200 in January 2023, 7,500 in January 2024.
 
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DiTo

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I've been pretty blackpilled on free speech and artistic freedom recently. Everything gets censored despite literally millions of users not wanting it and complaining about it, and companies losing significant percentages of profits and also not wanting it.

All it takes is a dozen blue-haired-feminists/bible-thumping-nutjobs to complain in a letter with less than a hundred signatures and entire governments or multi-billion multinational companies cave in. Probably because they want the same and are using this shit as a smokescreen.

I'll try to sign it, but I don't see what a billion voices can achieve against a single nutjob with a psychotic ideology. The past week has been a hell of a ride.
The reason the dozen blue-haired-feminists/bible-thumping-nutjobs get things done is because they don't give up and keep chipping away until they get something, and the reason the majority doesn't get anything is because of defeatist views like this.

The only solution is do something whatever it is you are willing to do. If you are willing to sign an online petition, do that; if you are willing to call Visa/Master card and tell them you don't not appreciate them policing the content you can or can't buy, do that; if you are willing to call your local representative and inform them that you don't approve the actions payment systems are taking, do that, and if you are willing to start/join an organization to counter this, do that. Whatever you are willing/able to do, do it.

If everyone does something then it will get more attention and something will be done, and if everyone says: nothing can be done, nothing will be done.
 

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The action of visa/etc are also in line with things that are happening in a lot of western countries (US, UK, Italy...) to put more barrier to porn consumption, as a test to limit access to contents that the government doesn't like, to create a strong censor to limit internet freedom, so, it's more dangerous than simply "give us back our porn!"
 
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Insanatee

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Do not take the blackpill. That's what they're betting on. It's why CS went private and are in hiding as of now. It's why The Guardian and Polygon are now writing articles about it. Keep working at it, one step at a time, one little bite at a time.
 

DiTo

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Do not take the blackpill. That's what they're betting on. It's why CS went private and are in hiding as of now. It's why The Guardian and Polygon are now writing articles about it. Keep working at it, one step at a time, one little bite at a time.
CS isn't the problem, it's the payment companies that are controlling things they shouldn't that are the problem. You have to go after the payment companies so that CS or any other group doesn't put pressure to block payment against whatever that group doesn't like.
 
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Insanatee

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CS isn't the problem, it's the payment companies that are controlling things they shouldn't that are the problem. You have to go after the payment companies so that CS or any other group doesn't put pressure to block payment against whatever that group doesn't like.
Again, the whole reason those payment companies did this was because of a small group pressuring them to action. We can do the same thing.
 
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