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[Drakal]

realy happy only for Youkoso! Sukebe Elf no Mori e!

very good shit! after sayori art design of nekopara and tropical liquor, is this artist that i love his well made girls.

is on 7 position, so no today, not tomorow but some day this nibba of manga gamer are going to do this VN.

and FUCK!!! we talking about a MOTHER FUCKING VN WITH HAPPY ELF SEX!


HAPPY!


you read this?

HAPPY

the chaos demons are scared about this discovery, in the world of hentai and VN the elfs can do some fuk with not rape by monsters and evil mans? THAT INSANE, i never tough about this idea.

vanilla elf H-scene, took the fucking 2017 for coming to this idea!

 

[n0b0dy]

I feel betrayed :FeelsBadMan:

I have a theory: those people who buy the vanilla stuff right now are new into this world and later on they gonna ask for more, but will be tired of the same thing and start looking for some "weird tag" after another and whem they realize the casual stuff will not please them anymore and whem you hit this point there is no turnback. And then the VN maket in this side of the world gonna be filled with only with hardcore stuffs.

 

[Drakal]

I feel betrayed :FeelsBadMan:


Damn, the VN market on this side of the world is really into casual stuff right now, i wonder when it will change. People really buy this stuff? okerFace:


I have a theory: those people who buy the vanilla stuff right now are new into this world and later on they gonna ask for more, but will be tired of the same thing and start looking for some "weird tag" after another and whem they realize the casual stuff will not please them anymore and whem you hit this point there is no turnback. And then the VN maket in this side of the world gonna be filled with only with hardcore stuffs.


Thanks steam for make Visual novels popular.
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Oh Irony! for me is the exact opposite

watching all this damn fetish that the hentai and VN world bring i got tired of creepy stuff.

Ntr-rape and all that horrible fetish stuff.

so now i get excited when they create story WITH NORMAL STUFF!!!

is insane that a VN with happy elfs sex is the exception in ocean of mainstream elf rape! oh the irony!

in the last 2-3 year the VN and erotic fetish japan world is starting to get popularity on west.
i toke 10 years for me for get tired of fetish stuff, but now young fap BOIS are starting to discover the magic of ntr-rape and why not? SCAT PORN
im sad for this poor souls when are going to discover Empress VN like starless, so hot girls design, BUT FULL OF CRAP (and cutting penis)

 

[mesoru]

Oh Irony! for me is the exact opposite

watching all this damn fetish that the hentai and VN world bring i got tired of creepy stuff.

Ntr-rape and all that horrible fetish stuff.

so now i get excited when they create story WITH NORMAL STUFF!!!

is insane that a VN with happy elfs sex is the exception in ocean of mainstream elf rape! oh the irony!

Guess it goes differently for some...
I started with vanilla (respectfulandmonogamousrelationship+onlyvirginheroines+handholding+purelovestory+missionary), but now it just bores me, bleh!
I can still enjoy if it's high quality and the girls are hot, see Youkoso! for example, it's good not because it is vanilla (imo), but because it has one of my favorite artists and some sweet oppai dark elfs.

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You weirdos and your non-rape elf porn win this one. :confounded: *runs away*

 

[ponyguy]

I started with vanilla (handholding)

Vanilla, my ass. You sick bastard. I knew you were depraved, but this is too much even for me.

 

[Drakal]

Guess it goes differently for some...
I started with vanilla (respectfulandmonogamousrelationship+onlyvirginheroines+handholding+purelovestory+missionary), but now it just bores me, bleh!
I can still enjoy if it's high quality and the girls are hot, see Youkoso! for example, it's good not because it is vanilla (imo), but because it has one of my favorite artists and some sweet oppai dark elfs.

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You weirdos and your non-rape elf porn win this one. :confounded: *runs away*

hell mannn, black lilith is totaly not my spirit animal, 2 o 3 VN i check of VNDB, all raped elfs ahah!

is not like i love only the TOTAL vanilla stuff (stuff like, so sweet that you get diabetes)
im good with some fetish and stuff, at LAST until is still happy sex and girl is into.
in this case that why is great this elfs VN, happy sex, and the girls are totaly sluts plus some cool fetish (some bdsm, or cosplay---cosplay cause the MC give the girls some real world dress)

 

[n0b0dy]

im sad for this poor souls when are going to discover Empress VN like starless, so hot girls design, BUT FULL OF CRAP (and cutting penis)

I feel sad for the folks who are going to discover games like Dating my Daughter and Princess Evangile. (I was tricked by my penis in playing both so I know what I'm talking about.)
I saw they where both very popular adult games that get a lot of praise so as an adult myself I was like "let's play these games with an open mind, everybody says they are good so there must be something there right?"

Boy was I wrong. The woman in both games did resemble talking dolls more than human beings and it creeped me the fuck out. They all acted super "sweet" and "gleefull" all the time and it hurt my soul. Every time a girl giggled or declared her uncoditional love for the MC i felt like I imagine a vampire must feel like when they are exposed to sunlight. Just pure torture.

I know this is a bit of topic so please forgive me for that, this is just my way of dealing with the trauma I suffered playing those kind of games. Princess Evangile was my Vietnam ensive:

Most vanilla porn comes from a place of pure evil is all I am trying to say. I guess if other people want to try and enjoy that kind of abominations it's not my place to judge them for it, we all have our faults. Luckily Mangagamer does publish some super sweet stuff that is focused on non-con now and then even though those games will never appear on these kinds of lists since mankind just has not evolved to that level of contentiousness yet where they can see the hardcore stuff is infinitely more beautiful that the vanilla stuff :winkytongue:

 

[brynhildr]

Guess I'm the only one who still enjoys both vanilla & non-vanilla games here (even though lately I struggle in completing even a single VN. Too little time. And that's why I end up playing RPG games that are somehow "short") :test:



(and Princess Evangile along with If My Heart Had Wings, were - and still are - my favorite VN's)

 

[Drakal]

I feel sad for the folks who are going to discover games like Dating my Daughter and Princess Evangile. (I was tricked by my penis in playing both so I know what I'm talking about.)
I saw they where both very popular adult games that get a lot of praise so as an adult myself I was like "let's play these games with an open mind, everybody says they are good so there must be something there right?"

Boy was I wrong. The woman in both games did resemble talking dolls more than human beings and it creeped me the fuck out. They all acted super "sweet" and "gleefull" all the time and it hurt my soul. Every time a girl giggled or declared her uncoditional love for the MC i felt like I imagine a vampire must feel like when they are exposed to sunlight. Just pure torture.

I know this is a bit of topic so please forgive me for that, this is just my way of dealing with the trauma I suffered playing those kind of games. Princess Evangile was my Vietnam ensive:

Most vanilla porn comes from a place of pure evil is all I am trying to say. I guess if other people want to try and enjoy that kind of abominations it's not my place to judge them for it, we all have our faults. Luckily Mangagamer does publish some super sweet stuff that is focused on non-con now and then even though those games will never appear on these kinds of lists since mankind just has not evolved to that level of contentiousness yet where they can see the hardcore stuff is infinitely more beautiful that the vanilla stuff :winkytongue:

im never played princess evangelie, like i said i go for happy sex but not for the free sweet diabetes.
i dont like the art style, to much cute and childish (this is another story, NOPE totaly not into loli, just super ultra omega alfa exception like Marie Rose of DoA, must have black magic that evil bitch)

and usualy this cute and childish art style is done for the 90% vanilla VN and hentai.

so is realy rare that i find a VN good for my taste

the perfect deal for me is stuff like this elf VN, cute sexy sluts.
the body of this girl almost go close to my type (my avatar imm)

 

[mesoru]

hell mannn, black lilith is totaly not my spirit animal, 2 o 3 VN i check of VNDB, all raped elfs ahah!

is not like i love only the TOTAL vanilla stuff (stuff like, so sweet that you get diabetes)
im good with some fetish and stuff, at LAST until is still happy sex and girl is into.
in this case that why is great this elfs VN, happy sex, and the girls are totaly sluts plus some cool fetish (some bdsm, or cosplay---cosplay cause the MC give the girls some real world dress)

Haha, yeah, Black Lilith's thing is rape porn.
The vanilla side of Lilith nowadays is Lilith Soft. It's good that at least their games have rough sex, instead of lovey dovey only. From Aoi Nagisa too,

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is a good example.
There actually are some other games with consentual (or at least semi) elf porn. They are not "full elf heroines" like Youkoso!, but iirc Lune, Miel and Waffle have games with vanilla elf sexual content.

I know this is a bit of topic so please forgive me for that, this is just my way of dealing with the trauma I suffered playing those kind of games. Princess Evangile was my Vietnam ensive:

So you dropped PE too? good to hear i'm not alone in this one. I barely made through the prologue and finished Chiho route. My main grip wasn't even the heroines archetypes (i think i got used to it in these games), but how they made the protagonist some jesus christ and the shitty drama that builds up only to be resolved by some deus ex machina.
PE is average moege at best, don't know why it's so popular. But, i remember speaking to someone who loves these games. It happens that the lovey dovey thing was some kind of therapy and escapism for him, so it's kinda hard for me to get mad at people who love these games (or at least that person whom i spoke with), even if i hate its tropes (pure love story, only virgin heroines, bland protagonists, heroines only existing for the mc's cock, etc..)

(and Princess Evangile along with If My Heart Had Wings, were - and still are - my favorite VN's)

Dropped both (though IMHHW was better). And now i'm worried, why do keep playing these games? i almost always drop them, what am i doing with my life?
The only "moe" vns i still manage to finish are the "half-moe" ones like grisaia, majikoi, tsujidou, etc
The only "half-moe" i look forward these days is

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. It is not set in highschool and has an adult protagonist, not to forget there's a office lady heroine.

 

[Drakal]

Haha, yeah, Black Lilith's thing is rape porn.
The vanilla side of Lilith nowadays is Lilith Soft. It's good that at least their games have rough sex, instead of lovey dovey only. From Aoi Nagisa too,

You must be registered to see the links

is a good example.
There actually are some other games with consentual (or at least semi) elf porn. They are not "full elf heroines" like Youkoso!, but iirc Lune, Miel and Waffle have games with vanilla elf sexual content.

So you dropped PE too? good to hear i'm not alone in this one. I barely made through the prologue and finished Chiho route. My main grip wasn't even the heroines archetypes (i think i got used to it in these games), but how they made the protagonist some jesus christ and the shitty drama that builds up only to be resolved by some deus ex machina.
PE is average moege at best, don't know why it's so popular. But, i remember speaking to someone who loves these games. It happens that the lovey dovey thing was some kind of therapy and escapism for him, so it's kinda hard for me to get mad at people who love these games (or at least that person whom i talked with), even if i hate its tropes (pure love story, only virgin heroines, bland protagonists, heroines only existing for the mcs cock, etc..)

Dropped both. And now i'm worried, why do keep playing these games? i almost always drop them, what am i doing with my life?

(watch the elf VN that you linked)

Oh cool stuff, dark elfs!

(Open Vndb se the info of the story)

YES! fuck this 2 elfs sluts!

but then...


(From description

The protagonist asks for the body of the two heroines under the spell wherever they are in the academy! An ordinary sexual moves don't satisfy him, he who loves the butt focuses on the anal!)


ANAL??? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

from all the fetish this is the worst for me, no cause i found disgusting anal, is just after all this years i found this fetish just stupid, even in real life poeple do anal just for the curiosity and cause is transgressive.

 

[n0b0dy]

im never played princess evangelie, like i said i go for happy sex but not for the free sweet diabetes.
i dont like the art style, to much cute and childish (this is another story, NOPE totaly not into loli, just super ultra omega alfa exception like Marie Rose of DoA, must have black magic that evil bitch)

and usualy this cute and childish art style is done for the 90% vanilla VN and hentai.

so is realy rare that i find a VN good for my taste

Now I am curious, what are some adult games you do enjoy? I wonder if we can find find some common ground here. There are actually some vanilla-ish games I do enjoy (like the Kathy path in 'Daughter for Desert'' and 'urban voyeur'), although I will never enjoy them as much as I do some of the games with non-con.

My gripe with most softcore games is really that often the woman are clearly designed to only exist for the pleasure of the MC and could not act more gleeful if thy were on xtc for the first time and they just are not relateable at all. If I can relate to the girls in the games somewhat the softcore content becomes a lot less annoying and I can even enjoy it but in more than 90% of the vanilla games I just can't see the characters like real people instead of just exaggerated stereotypes. I have not really looked at most games in this list but I fear this will be the case for me for the majority or all of these games also. Softcore games need good writing to draw me in and hardcore games just need the right fetishes (although good writing still helps obviously.)

So you dropped PE too? good to hear i'm not alone in this one. I barely made through the prologue and finished Chiho route. My main grip wasn't even the heroines archetypes (i think i got used to it in these games), but how they made the protagonist some jesus christ and the shitty drama that builds up only to be resolved by some deus ex machina.
PE is average moege at best, don't know why it's so popular. But, i remember speaking to someone who loves these games. It happens that the lovey dovey thing was some kind of therapy and escapism for him, so it's kinda hard for me to get mad at people who love these games (or at least that person whom i spoke with), even if i hate its tropes (pure love story, only virgin heroines, bland protagonists, heroines only existing for the mc's cock, etc..)

I did not finish PE but I came very close. I bought the game on a whim and therefore I decided to keep playing even though I did not enjoy the game very much. I falsely convinced myself the $40 somehow would not be a waste if I suffered through it. So I played the route of the petite dark-haired girl (don't even remember her name) until I arrived at the sexual content which I hoped I could enjoy. But I couldn't for exactly the reasons you articulately stated in your comment so I stopped playing not far before I assume the ending would be.

from all the fetish this is the worst for me, no cause i found disgusting anal, is just after all this years i found this fetish just stupid, even in real life poeple do anal just for the curiosity and cause is transgressive.

Actually the rectum is a erogenous zone in both men and women and therefore stimulating it can feel really good. It is not for everyone but many people do genuinely enjoy stimulation of the rectum as much or more as they do stimulation of their vagina/penis.

 

[Drakal]

Now I am curious, what are some adult games you do enjoy? I wonder if we can find find some common ground here. There are actually some vanilla-ish games I do enjoy (like the Kathy path in 'Daughter for Desert'' and 'urban voyeur'), although I will never enjoy them as much as I do some of the games with non-con.

My gripe with most softcore games is really that often the woman are clearly designed to only exist for the pleasure of the MC and could not act more gleeful if thy were on xtc for the first time and they just are not relateable at all. If I can relate to the girls in the games somewhat the softcore content becomes a lot less annoying and I can even enjoy it but in more than 90% of the vanilla games I just can't see the characters like real people instead of just exaggerated stereotypes. I have not really looked at most games in this list but I fear this will be the case for me for the majority or all of these games also. Softcore games need good writing to draw me in and hardcore games just need the right fetishes (although good writing still helps obviously.)



I did not finish PE but I came very close. I bought the game on a whim and therefore I decided to keep playing even though I did not enjoy the game very much. I falsely convinced myself the $40 somehow would not be a waste if I suffered through it. So I played the route of the petite dark-haired girl (don't even remember her name) until I arrived at the sexual content which I hoped I could enjoy. But I couldn't for exactly the reasons you articulately stated in your comment so I stopped playing not far before I assume the ending would be.



Actually the rectum is a erogenous zone in both men and women and therefore stimulating it can feel really good. It is not for everyone but many people do genuinely enjoy stimulation of the rectum as much or more as they do stimulation of their vagina/penis.

yeah try ass sometimes could be interessing, but i hate it when in some VN they just go for the ass, oh lee sheeeit man go for other stuff to! you only focus on that damn butt (and i notice i get a lot annoyed even when they focus to much over other fetish, like now is come out VN Funbag Fantasy, sexy girls but i get bored after the first 2-3 scene, cause... MC stop focus in this fucking tits man!!!)


yeah in the end i look in VN happy sex with variety, tropical liquor had realy great h-scene and girls (but the game is to DAMN SHORT)
and last i like even more the VN if have sexy girls with athletic thicc bodys, the elf VN have almost
girls with a body like that, to bad happen few times in VN to find this girls.

(lol years ago, the firsts VN i found with girls with this bodys is stuff coming from Empress artist Sei Shoujo, like the legendary bible black, TO BAD we know how is the story of bible black right? god damn!)

yeah i see that you not like all this VN when the girls are made only for jump on MC dick, with almost 0 characterization.
but some of my favorite VN are Koihime Mosou and Majikoi when you have a big harem of girls,
and i not looking for big plot, so im good on this elf VN with only a lot of ignorant happy sex.
but damn japanese, in this 2 fucking games the girls FIGHT AND TRAIN, why they have 0 abs and muscle? damn it! (and majokoi that damn MC is a butt man to! but lucky he try other stuff)

well if i look some plot and waifu with great characterization
i just leave VN and hentai, i go watch some well made anime o play a great game.
like xenoblade

the girls coming from xenoblade 2 are fucking amazing.

 

[Gomly1980]

even in real life poeple do anal just for the curiosity and cause is transgressive.

You do know there are women that love anal.

My wife is one of them.

 

[Drakal]

You do know there are women that love anal.

My wife is one of them.

i say why i think poeple go so much in to anal, cause is transgressive and restricted area, humans love try prohibited stuff.
but then if you try it and you like it... well good!
but i know a lot of poeple ask for anal to partner like drug addict, then after the first time....... they found out is not big deal, and they get bored about it.

 

[brynhildr]

yeah try ass sometimes could be interessing, but i hate it when in some VN they just go for the ass, oh lee sheeeit man go for other stuff to! you only focus on that damn butt (and i notice i get a lot annoyed even when they focus to much over other fetish, like now is come out VN Funbag Fantasy, sexy girls but i get bored after the first 2-3 scene, cause... MC stop focus in this fucking tits man!!!)


yeah in the end i look in VN happy sex with variety, tropical liquor had realy great h-scene and girls (but the game is to DAMN SHORT)
and last i like even more the VN if have sexy girls with athletic thicc bodys, the elf VN have almost
girls with a body like that, to bad happen few times in VN to find this girls.

(lol years ago, the firsts VN i found with girls with this bodys is stuff coming from Empress artist Sei Shoujo, like the legendary bible black, TO BAD we know how is the story of bible black right? god damn!)

yeah i see that you not like all this VN when the girls are made only for jump on MC dick, with almost 0 characterization.
but some of my favorite VN are Koihime Mosou and Majikoi when you have a big harem of girls,
and i not looking for big plot, so im good on this elf VN with only a lot of ignorant happy sex.
but damn japanese, in this 2 fucking games the girls FIGHT AND TRAIN, why they have 0 abs and muscle? damn it! (and majokoi that damn MC is a butt man to! but lucky he try other stuff)

well if i look some plot and waifu with great characterization
i just leave VN and hentai, i go watch some well made anime o play a great game.
like xenoblade

the girls coming from xenoblade 2 are fucking amazing.

I mean, if you want to see girls with abs (few, or lot of abs here and there), if you've an Android or an Iphone you can easily make an account for their store and then download their games. Sad thing is that they aren't hentai because you know, Android. And iOS (even though some games - namely more japanese and korean for example Destiny Child - are more uncensored on Android than iOS), buuuut... there are lot of games that.. well... shows some very interesting char with lots of abs here and there. Also if you don't care at all for the story, that is, since in the end it's the same for every title.

(but again, the sad thing is that most of them sometimes are legendary, or super rare so you need to spend quite some time to grind crystals and such for obtaining them - and lots of luck. Otherwise go for the easy route and use some yen - which they will surely be converted on dollars)