RPGM May's Summer Vacation [v0.04.3] [Otchakun]

[Otchakun]

please just don't go overboard, or make the pee optional.

I don't want to step on other peoples' kinks, but urine is one of those things that immediately deflates my own boner. Like dog dick. I don't mind it as an option but if every scene has one in it then I can't enjoy anything else, even if I like the other kinks.

Ah yes, the eternal dilemma. Add pee everywhere or show some restraint xD

I totally get you tho. The game is meant to explore a wide variety of kinks, but the rule of thumb I'm going for is "if I can justify adding it, I'll add it". Whenever possible I'm also adding ways of avoiding content too, and having each route more or less stick to a set of kinks is a good way of keeping them thematically consistent and letting the player know what they're getting into.

So while it's possible I'll end up sprinkling my personal favorite kinks everywhere, if they're showing up halfway through a questline that never had anything to do with it, I'll probably make it optional as you said. Like the "wanna do it? Yes/no" questions or contextualizing it like the pepper spray on the Gropers, since they surprise a player that may not want to see their scenes.

I hope that's a good alternative. At the end of the day, if you don't like lolis or ENF, you shouldn't play the game in the first place, but pretty much everything else is extra sauce for those who do!

Edit: Another option could be having one character show up in another's questline, so Ember could be subjected to the same kinks as Jun if she showing up in one of his quests, for example.

 

[Frurose]

please just don't go overboard, or make the pee optional.

I don't want to step on other peoples' kinks, but urine is one of those things that immediately deflates my own boner. Like dog dick. I don't mind it as an option but if every scene has one in it then I can't enjoy anything else, even if I like the other kinks.

I get you, I can usually ignore the urine stuff if it isn't too often or if it is done well, but a scat tag is a no go for me.
We all have our limits.

 

[Karnewarrior]

I don't do H-games (yet? I am trying to get into game dev... Although porn is probably a bad way to enter, so likely no H from me), but I do write H stories on occasion.

Some fetishes are kind of assumed. Most people can at least handle impregnation content. Very few people hear a girl going "cum inside! I want your babies!" and drop the work out of disgust the way they might if a turd slips out her bumhole on-screen. Foot fetish stuff tends to be a light turn-off to anyone who doesn't like feet, but not so bad as loli stuff. Etc.

Urine is surprisingly more often in the second tier, which is weird to me since scat is SOLIDLY in the deepest tier. But in both cases the response is mostly the same - warn the audience, and either focus the entire work on it, or avoid making it a major component.

I always start my stories with an idea of what's going to be happening in the story and I think the same should apply to game design. When I wrote Puella Magi Madoka Rapebait over on Akun I started it with an explicit mention of Madoka's age, and a scene where she's raped by monsters (in a dream). No sane person reads the title, then the rape scene, and goes "Why are you letting monsters rape lolis in my wholesome christian story?!"

May's does a good job of establishing this as a lightly bisexual loli story. You got that lesbian sister, the twink ass in the bushes, and May herself is naked on the opening splash screen. So it gets across pretty firmly that the story will include both lesbian loli, straight loli, and shota ass/dick. It's important, since it means basically nobody who loathes loli is gonna pick the game up and get slapped by their anti-fetish.


I don't really have somewhere to go with this though. The piss stuff isn't advertised as heavily but from the sound of it it's also not a central component of the game as a whole, and it does come early enough that it's not a massive piss-bending slap to the face. Just observing some stuff about creative smut writing, I guess, and how it interacts with different peoples' fetishes and anti-fetishes.

 

[Otchakun]

I don't do H-games (yet? I am trying to get into game dev... Although porn is probably a bad way to enter, so likely no H from me), but I do write H stories on occasion.

Some fetishes are kind of assumed. Most people can at least handle impregnation content. Very few people hear a girl going "cum inside! I want your babies!" and drop the work out of disgust the way they might if a turd slips out her bumhole on-screen. Foot fetish stuff tends to be a light turn-off to anyone who doesn't like feet, but not so bad as loli stuff. Etc.

Urine is surprisingly more often in the second tier, which is weird to me since scat is SOLIDLY in the deepest tier. But in both cases the response is mostly the same - warn the audience, and either focus the entire work on it, or avoid making it a major component.

I always start my stories with an idea of what's going to be happening in the story and I think the same should apply to game design. When I wrote Puella Magi Madoka Rapebait over on Akun I started it with an explicit mention of Madoka's age, and a scene where she's raped by monsters (in a dream). No sane person reads the title, then the rape scene, and goes "Why are you letting monsters rape lolis in my wholesome christian story?!"

May's does a good job of establishing this as a lightly bisexual loli story. You got that lesbian sister, the twink ass in the bushes, and May herself is naked on the opening splash screen. So it gets across pretty firmly that the story will include both lesbian loli, straight loli, and shota ass/dick. It's important, since it means basically nobody who loathes loli is gonna pick the game up and get slapped by their anti-fetish.


I don't really have somewhere to go with this though. The piss stuff isn't advertised as heavily but from the sound of it it's also not a central component of the game as a whole, and it does come early enough that it's not a massive piss-bending slap to the face. Just observing some stuff about creative smut writing, I guess, and how it interacts with different peoples' fetishes and anti-fetishes.

Wow thanks for the thoughts!

Yeah I think you have a very firm grasp on how content is communicated to the player/reader/etc. I don't know the right word to describe it, but you got it very right when you mentioned how the game frontloads all its major themes. Tho not something I'm intentionally exploring too much in this project, I think there's value in not just using the content to introduce itself instead of just listing the content beforehand (tho the tags are here and play their role), but also in having it as a surprise later. The reason I say this is because I only enjoy many of the things I like today because the story didn't warn me, and so I had no choice but to give it the benefit of the doubt and, before I knew it, it wasn't as bad as I thought. Though, of course, there's a spectrum to it, and I'd probably close any game that tries to surprise me with scat, even if I've grown to enjoy pee over time xD

At least with this game I'm not planning to challenge anyone's worldview on porn or anything, so every kink is introduced in a soft version of itself. This is partially so the player knows what they're getting into by just getting a small taste of it, and because I just like softcore and having things grow in intensity very slowly.

I am trying to get into game dev... Although porn is probably a bad way to enter, so likely no H from me

Funny enough, but I've published quite a few projects online, and pretty much everything always flopped (you know how algorithms work, you either pay, abuse search engine optimization or it will simply never show up on smbd's timeline), but my first attempt at an eroge has been the most successful so far. I guess the meme "sex sells" is real xD (Not that this game has sex per se, but... I love eroges and don't feel bad about it, but I've seen artists feel pretty dejected by this reality)
But don't let that dissuade you from making the art you want! If anything, when you get into game development, I'd be happy to have a look at it!

Anyway, I've started rambling too now. At the end of the, thanks for sharing your input! And dw, the game probably won't turn into smth it already isn't. It's just gonna branch out a little, explore a few new kinks, and slowly get a bit more extreme on the stuff we already have. This is my first time doing an eroge too, so this kind of feedback really helps me get an idea of what's the best way to add new content in a way that doesn't harm anyone's experience.

 

[minn-tan]

I myself highly enjoy urination as a fetish and I hope Otchakun adds more to the game, although I can understand why you don't. But really, it's not that hard to skip. For example I don't like futa/traps but they appear in a lot of good games. The content doesn't interest me, so I just skip it. Never bothers me as long as the game doesn't prohibit skipping.

Also, Karnewarrior if you're interested in trying to get into game dev, I highly recommend using C# as opposed to languages like Java and Python. I've never made an RPG because my art skills make a five year old look Michelangelo-tier in comparison. However, I have done work in C# to make CRUD GUIs and found it to be very straightforward and had fast program runtimes.

 

[Otchakun]

But really, it's not that hard to skip

Amidst all the complicated talk, I forgot you can just spam click and get through the scenes you don't like lol. It kinda breaks the immersion and I'd rather give the player more engaging alternatives, but I do it a lot too. So many great stories out there with scenes that I'm forced to get through despite not having any interest, so instead of enduring it I can just skip.

Also, Karnewarrior if you're interested in trying to get into game dev, I highly recommend using C# as opposed to languages like Java and Python. I've never made an RPG because my art skills make a five year old look Michelangelo-tier in comparison. However, I have done work in C# to make CRUD GUIs and found it to be very straightforward and had fast program runtimes.

I second this. RPGM is great if you want to make a game its tools allow in record speed and without all the headaches of proper coding, but it's also very limiting. My experience with a modified version of C++ has been great, tho it's a little painful to learn lol. I literally learned 90% of what I ever needed to do on RPGM in one week, while months in C# still had me stratching my head, but with a degree of freedom that never failed to amaze.

 

[Karnewarrior]

Also, Karnewarrior if you're interested in trying to get into game dev, I highly recommend using C# as opposed to languages like Java and Python. I've never made an RPG because my art skills make a five year old look Michelangelo-tier in comparison. However, I have done work in C# to make CRUD GUIs and found it to be very straightforward and had fast program runtimes.

Oh, don't you worry about that. I'm college educated in C++ and C, and I do have some experience with python, MIPS, and to a lesser extent BASIC. I don't really have an issue when it comes to language - I've never used Java but I could probably pick it up quickly enough.

My current project is half dead is made in Unreal Engine. Free-roam blobber in the vein of Might and Magic. I've actually got most of the components assembled, I think, but I'm having some difficulty getting the game in actual working order; attacks refusing to deal actual damage, the inventory system breaking the UI, early build stuff. I'd put more work into it but I've been busy getting my footing in my part-time job so I haven't spared the time.

 

[tacosnap123]

Ah yes, the eternal dilemma. Add pee everywhere or show some restraint xD

I totally get you tho. The game is meant to explore a wide variety of kinks, but the rule of thumb I'm going for is "if I can justify adding it, I'll add it". Whenever possible I'm also adding ways of avoiding content too, and having each route more or less stick to a set of kinks is a good way of keeping them thematically consistent and letting the player know what they're getting into.

So while it's possible I'll end up sprinkling my personal favorite kinks everywhere, if they're showing up halfway through a questline that never had anything to do with it, I'll probably make it optional as you said. Like the "wanna do it? Yes/no" questions or contextualizing it like the pepper spray on the Gropers, since they surprise a player that may not want to see their scenes.

I hope that's a good alternative. At the end of the day, if you don't like lolis or ENF, you shouldn't play the game in the first place, but pretty much everything else is extra sauce for those who do!

Edit: Another option could be having one character show up in another's questline, so Ember could be subjected to the same kinks as Jun if she showing up in one of his quests, for example.

ENF?

 

[Otchakun]

ENF?

Elephants never forget Embarrassed nude female. Tho I'd consider my game closer to EUF (embarrassed undressed female) since May is rarely fully nude, but the name ENF is more widely known. Also not exhibitionism (yet) because May isn't doing it on her own volition xD

 

[minn-tan]

Oh, don't you worry about that. I'm college educated in C++ and C, and I do have some experience with python, MIPS, and to a lesser extent BASIC. I don't really have an issue when it comes to language - I've never used Java but I could probably pick it up quickly enough.

With C/C++, all the pointers and dereferencing to be done is too tedious for my liking. I was able to do really cool things with C, like use the CPU registers to store certain memory values, which made everything nicely optimized and fast. But at the end of the day, things that might take a hundred lines in C may take a dozen lines in C#. And Java is just fugly.

 

[gruu]

had an idea about an introductory scene for the school clubs. when you go in to explore the area your told you need to have a health assessment done by the school nurse to participate. you are new after all. the various clubs heads show up mid evaluation to fill you in about what each club is about, and watch as the nurse inspects you. offering semi lewd comments to the evaluation. the coach tells you to touch your toes, then offers to help stretch you out. art teacher asks about you art skill, then have you hold a pose while poking and smacking you with a pointer. focus is important for models after all. the janitor shows up and tells you about the hard work of the service club, then start squeezing your "muscles" to see how strong you are. the nurse will need to do a basic health check, take your temperature and such. bonus points if they talk you into using a rectal thermometer while the teachers are still in the room. while checking your teeth you get poked with the tongue depressor and they comment on your gag reflex.

 

[Otchakun]

had an idea about an introductory scene for the school clubs. when you go in to explore the area your told you need to have a health assessment done by the school nurse to participate. you are new after all. the various clubs heads show up mid evaluation to fill you in about what each club is about, and watch as the nurse inspects you. offering semi lewd comments to the evaluation. the coach tells you to touch your toes, then offers to help stretch you out. art teacher asks about you art skill, then have you hold a pose while poking and smacking you with a pointer. focus is important for models after all. the janitor shows up and tells you about the hard work of the service club, then start squeezing your "muscles" to see how strong you are. the nurse will need to do a basic health check, take your temperature and such. bonus points if they talk you into using a rectal thermometer while the teachers are still in the room. while checking your teeth you get poked with the tongue depressor and they comment on your gag reflex.

Hmmmm... I'll be adding more clubs over time across multiple updates, so the part of doing different things for different club-related skills probably won't work (I also don't know what every single club will be yet). Making the inspection a requirement for entering school in the first place also wouldn't work that well. That said, I still love the setup xD

This is a lot for just one scene, so I could make it several different evaluations done over time. They could either be necessary for a P.E. related club, or just an optional thing they try to convince you is mandatory so you keep coming back for more checks if you want!

Stretching, the thermometer and the gag reflex (good excuse to get May to show her tongue) parts are my favorites! I really need to find a way to add those in!

All the teachers probably won't be there, but even if just a couple, or maybe one of them walks in while May is naked in a compromising pose but everywhere acts super naturally about it while she's dying of embarrassment... That's something I'd like to see!

 

[saddg22]

anyone got a full save file i finished all of it last update but it reset everything when i opened the new update

 

[Otchakun]

anyone got a full save file i finished all of it last update but it reset everything when i opened the new update

Just copy the "save" folder from the previous version into the new one. All your progress is there!

 

[DetectiveGirl]

Just tried to play the latest update...the first message I got was: That I saw everything and shoud wait till the next update....

 

[Otchakun]

Just tried to play the latest update...the first message I got was: That I saw everything and shoud wait till the next update....

Yes, that's because that message only tracks non-repeatable content. There IS new content (the 2 new Baobao scenes are the highlight), but they're RNG-triggered repeatable scenes, like everything else in the restaurant. Sorry for the confusion!

I'm probably removing that message in the next update since May's diary will be a better alternative (it'll let you see how much stuff is left for each questline).

 

[Kondr1w]

Thx for the game. Looks very promising so far.
Any plans for the rimjob content?
Anyway will be looking forward to the next updates.

 

[Otchakun]

Thx for the game. Looks very promising so far.
Any plans for the rimjob content?
Anyway will be looking forward to the next updates.

Glad you're enjoying it!

Sex isn't the focus so that kind of stuff probably isn't showing up super soon, but non-penetrative sex will most likely be the first kind to be added. Especially if it's contextualized in a comedic scene or smth (like when the werewolf started licking May) xD

The next update is gonna be beach! To avoid the same issue as the city update, I'll try to break it up in 2 parts more evenly, so it should come out sooner. Probably next month!

I hope not to disappoint (^^)/

 

[Bllyat]

How to exit from "reccal events" ?

 

[Otchakun]

How to exit from "reccal events" ?

You can't. There's a warning before you enter the recollection room telling you to save before as you won't be able to return to normal play afterwards.
I made it that way because cutscenes change game variables and some stuff would definitively break if you were able to leave after reviewing a scene.