In 10 years it'll degrade without proper training material made by real artists. And it needs hell lot of material coz it already consumed and shitted out everything that internet stockpiled up to date.
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I'll make a bigger announcement about it later (need to work now). I deleted all "old" CGs and sprites that could be considered sexual because I don't want to be reported as a PDF by some righteous warrior. ~400 pictures were deleted. NTR and Loyal paths is now under construction.
If someone sees in remaining pictures loli content - please report missing tags. If the Loli tag will be added to the game I'll delete it from every marketplace.
Thank you.
If someone sees in remaining pictures loli content - please report missing tags. If the Loli tag will be added to the game I'll delete it from every marketplace.
Thank you.
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A bit of overreaction imo. In some cgs the model can look younger but there is no cg in which she looks like a loli.
Small tits =/= lolicon
The older version looks hotter anyway so go on
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Well regarding the on-going H-scenes now, I want to wait until they're done to play them all together, so when should they be fully finished ?
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Don't do that man, you will mess with good content of your game.
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wtf? she is married, much over 18 as said in game. where did you come on that idea? you did not do anything illegal. i find underage content (animated or pretendig rl) disgusting but you don't have it here. she just llook youngish.
removing sexual from game? man this is adult porn game. without sexual it is piece of shitty vanilla about marriage issues. i guess attacks came from anti-ntr sect. same time games with schoolboys fucking their mothers are not sanctioned because devs are having statment that all charachters are 18+ (although boys looks like 12-15). so nobody can accuse you. beng report by someone? fine, let patreon check game. there is nothing to fear. if you are destroying game because of internet bigot warrior with complains, you better cancel game, dress your female friends and family in handmaiden outfits and close your profile. we are not living in midlle age or at gilead.
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Why are you writing this to me? I said that I like how he makes Netorase content and I want more.
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This guy really shows the world how an AI game should be made
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you said: Do only Netorase content please --- what about other content? why he should abandon it? and how this is connected to dev message about problems you quoted?
and yes, my comment on your post was not how it should look. it was mixed with content of my comment to other post
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In his defense, marriage doesn't mean you're an adult of at least 18. In the US, Republicans/Conservatives continue their fight AGAINST the banning of child marriage and have successfully done so in some states. This allows PDFs to legally marry children with parental consent. So marriage alone isn't enough to back any age claims.
Meanwhile companies steer clear of any PDF content, so I'm guessing the move to delete content that can be confused as PDF is more to remain on whatever company site he's on and not an artistic change for the sake of art. I hope the people commenting in anger over his changes will eventually understand the position he's in.
Well first of all thank you everyone for warm words.
I may overreacted a bit, but anyway - I decided to delete almost all CGs and sprites, that was made with 1.5 model, because some people find them disturbing and I want to have a bare minimum problems with the laws as possible in our shady bussines. This so called "Great Purge" should also help with the repetitive questions about inconsistency of AI and so on. Everything that was deleted will be reworked in new style (the one you can see in previews).
The "arts" still won't have a "soul", but I don't know how to add it to a picture, sorry.
Why overreacting?
I already had a dispute about similar stuff with civitai. That time I lost some of my models (wet hair for example), which had nothing to do with the examples, that some people found disturbing. Some honorable citizen came to my page and started bombing it with reports, and that lead to a ban. The same thing could happen on patreon and that made me realize my position.
If so happen, that my ID somehow get leaked, and I will be caught redhanded making adult content - The court (in my country especialy) won't listen to my explanation about anime style and stuff. I can live with the risk being caught doing adult game. But being caught doing adult game with kids? No, thank you.
I have some strange perception of underage aparently. I may be wrong, but I believe that there is no way a person could determine with certantity another person's age if the second person is after the puberty. I already told that, but there are porn stars who look like they are 15, and there are 13 yo girls, who look like your mom. The only way to know is to put this person into their context. But again, court won't listen to my explanation.
That's why the Great Purge happen. Everything that looks at least slightly like "too much" should be gone.
With the new style I have much more control of the model, so I'm trying to "count heads" to set the right ratio, and make Mila about 1:7.5 which is considered adult ratio for women in drawing. So it should be "safe" by all means. But if it won't be enough and some people still will be so hurt that they start pushing some buttons here and there - I'll better drop this stuff out, strip my name from it and do something else. I have my family to feed, game making is just a hobby for me after all.
I can deal with hate about AI and sharing/swinging. But this? This is too much to ignore.
What'll happen next?
I probably will continue working on the ending of netorase route. But something is telling me, that the next update will be filled with questions about missing pictures and sprites. So maybe it will worth it to turn back and redo all of the missing stuff. But the problem is - it's 400 images. It's at least 2 sprints with no "new" content. Should I, or should not do it - I'll let my patrons decide.
Is it playable?
Yep. I'll add a link to the menu to jump over the "hole" after the great purge. But everything after the 1.2.5 version is still in the game (it's about 900 images, which is more than twice more then amount that was deleted), and it's the most juicy content. For those who don't like reading - you can literaly just start from the main action. If you encounter an error saying that there is some pictures missing just press ignore. Eventually you'll come to the 1.2.5 content and then everything should be fine.
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In Mila dom route Bob will remain himself.
So Bob and Mila are in superposition. Who they are depends on the player's choice
I'll come again after I write a bit more content - don't want to bother with just a couple words
That was an "old" CGs and sprites. My plan was to redo it bit by bit, by now all of it is gone, and I'll remake it in one style later.
But yeah we will be able to make clips eventually. The big question is about control, so I would say it's may be more than 10 years. And it will still need a lot of work from the human side.
The main advantage of the AI technology is that it will give a whole new experience to the player and the creators. First of all (for now) one person can make a lot of stuff according for their and their alone vision. I worked with amazing artist in the past who was making a complete garbage for me and my ideas, because it's always a perspective a view. And his perspective was far away from mine.
Next layer is to give a freedom to player, that we haven't exerienced yet - like the story will have borders, characters and plot. But player will be able to change it by his actions. Almost any action. I think this stuff will come soon (2-3 years).
Complete freedom won't work in my opinion - we have it in real life. But it's kinda boring isn't it?
AI is not a killer for artists. There is no "make something cool" button. it's a tool as any other, like computer, a brush, a camera or photoshop, for example. Artists will learn to use it, tweak it and control it. As a tool. And arts will grow in quantity and quality as a result. As it was after the first digital images were drawn. Or first digital photo was made.
Progress can't be stopped.
And it's wonderful.
Or you like "old" anime style more?
But I will be slowly reworking missing pictures and CGs too. Loyal and NTR paths will be reworked last though - looks like that was my patrons want, but voting is still in process.
I may overreacted a bit, but anyway - I decided to delete almost all CGs and sprites, that was made with 1.5 model, because some people find them disturbing and I want to have a bare minimum problems with the laws as possible in our shady bussines. This so called "Great Purge" should also help with the repetitive questions about inconsistency of AI and so on. Everything that was deleted will be reworked in new style (the one you can see in previews).
The "arts" still won't have a "soul", but I don't know how to add it to a picture, sorry.
Why overreacting?
I already had a dispute about similar stuff with civitai. That time I lost some of my models (wet hair for example), which had nothing to do with the examples, that some people found disturbing. Some honorable citizen came to my page and started bombing it with reports, and that lead to a ban. The same thing could happen on patreon and that made me realize my position.
If so happen, that my ID somehow get leaked, and I will be caught redhanded making adult content - The court (in my country especialy) won't listen to my explanation about anime style and stuff. I can live with the risk being caught doing adult game. But being caught doing adult game with kids? No, thank you.
I have some strange perception of underage aparently. I may be wrong, but I believe that there is no way a person could determine with certantity another person's age if the second person is after the puberty. I already told that, but there are porn stars who look like they are 15, and there are 13 yo girls, who look like your mom. The only way to know is to put this person into their context. But again, court won't listen to my explanation.
That's why the Great Purge happen. Everything that looks at least slightly like "too much" should be gone.
With the new style I have much more control of the model, so I'm trying to "count heads" to set the right ratio, and make Mila about 1:7.5 which is considered adult ratio for women in drawing. So it should be "safe" by all means. But if it won't be enough and some people still will be so hurt that they start pushing some buttons here and there - I'll better drop this stuff out, strip my name from it and do something else. I have my family to feed, game making is just a hobby for me after all.
I can deal with hate about AI and sharing/swinging. But this? This is too much to ignore.
What'll happen next?
I probably will continue working on the ending of netorase route. But something is telling me, that the next update will be filled with questions about missing pictures and sprites. So maybe it will worth it to turn back and redo all of the missing stuff. But the problem is - it's 400 images. It's at least 2 sprints with no "new" content. Should I, or should not do it - I'll let my patrons decide.
Is it playable?
Yep. I'll add a link to the menu to jump over the "hole" after the great purge. But everything after the 1.2.5 version is still in the game (it's about 900 images, which is more than twice more then amount that was deleted), and it's the most juicy content. For those who don't like reading - you can literaly just start from the main action. If you encounter an error saying that there is some pictures missing just press ignore. Eventually you'll come to the 1.2.5 content and then everything should be fine.
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Well... I think I need at least a couple months more to finish it. But it depends on what my patrons will like more - expanding this story or making another one. Plus now I have more work with redoing all of the deleted pictures. Probably even more.
Yeah, my initial plan was to make Bob slowly grow as a dom in their relationship with Mila. But then I understood, that people start to feel bored - the pace is too slow. So I made a split with dom|sub routes for a change. And it's kinda hard to develop dom\sub relationship between two subs. That's why I dropped a bunch of hints on Bob's split personality, for example when Mila feel like she will be raped soon when teasing is went too far. And Bob is struggling to control himself being teased, because when he is aroused he behaves differently. Like an inner self of sorts or a "Shadow" personality by Jung. Half assed explanation - yeah, but I needed it for a good pace.
In Mila dom route Bob will remain himself.
So Bob and Mila are in superposition. Who they are depends on the player's choice
No - I tried once to translate it from my native language, and it was shitty too. So I dropped the idea. Characters, plot, dialogs - all of it is originally my idea. Well, as far as in principle it is possible to consider something "your" idea in this industry. It is difficult to think of something completely new
There are some 2-framed animations. Originaly I thought of using
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to make 9-frames animations, but they are too unstable to use and affect style too much. Another way is using the aftereffect (as in scene with Mila making HJ for Paul) but my patrons voted against it.Thanks, I'll fix that in the next release
Thank you again
I'll come again after I write a bit more content - don't want to bother with just a couple wordsWe don't anymore
That was an "old" CGs and sprites. My plan was to redo it bit by bit, by now all of it is gone, and I'll remake it in one style later.I like still images. There are more details in that, and they have their own appeal, I think.
But yeah we will be able to make clips eventually. The big question is about control, so I would say it's may be more than 10 years. And it will still need a lot of work from the human side.
The main advantage of the AI technology is that it will give a whole new experience to the player and the creators. First of all (for now) one person can make a lot of stuff according for their and their alone vision. I worked with amazing artist in the past who was making a complete garbage for me and my ideas, because it's always a perspective a view. And his perspective was far away from mine.
Next layer is to give a freedom to player, that we haven't exerienced yet - like the story will have borders, characters and plot. But player will be able to change it by his actions. Almost any action. I think this stuff will come soon (2-3 years).
Complete freedom won't work in my opinion - we have it in real life. But it's kinda boring isn't it?
It won't degrade bellow current level (it's impossible). After ten years, you can create exactly the same picture using the same models, prompt and seed. They don't learn on prompting, their training is a different process. And for now they only getting better, and generated pictures don't make it any worse.
AI is not a killer for artists. There is no "make something cool" button. it's a tool as any other, like computer, a brush, a camera or photoshop, for example. Artists will learn to use it, tweak it and control it. As a tool. And arts will grow in quantity and quality as a result. As it was after the first digital images were drawn. Or first digital photo was made.
Progress can't be stopped.
And it's wonderful.
You mean new version looks hotter than older one?A bit of overreaction imo. In some cgs the model can look younger but there is no cg in which she looks like a loli.
Small tits =/= lolicon
The older version looks hoter anyway so go on
Or you like "old" anime style more?I deleted less than third of all images in game. The best stuff still there. I'll make a quick jump to the new content with a brief explanation of what happened inbetween, and fill the gap with new CGs eventually. It's not ruined. But it's damaged yeah)
I'll make it better, in new style)
Looks like it's still will be my first priority. Maybe a part of the old NTR route will drift to the netorase as an option, but I'm not sure yet. Rest assured
But I will be slowly reworking missing pictures and CGs too. Loyal and NTR paths will be reworked last though - looks like that was my patrons want, but voting is still in process.
How did you make her feet look so good?
Every time I try SDXL I can never get feet that look normal (7 toes deformed monstrosities are the norm for me at this point), let alone perfect looking ones like that and from so many angles.
Every time I try SDXL I can never get feet that look normal (7 toes deformed monstrosities are the norm for me at this point), let alone perfect looking ones like that and from so many angles.
I use the same technic as for hands
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- it should be available for everyone already. In short - photoshop and inpainting)
How was my comment off topic and kink shaming? the one I was replying to was the one kink shaming people for liking lolis. Was it the one who made that comment who reported it? Talk about a bad actor. He wants to shame others for their kinks but can't get clapped back. The guy who stole from the bank went to the cops and told the cops the bank stole his money. Shameless
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So this VN is over before it really got started it seems. It was going so well but as usual a few idiot eggs spoil a promising VN.