VN Ren'Py Mila AI [v1.4.5public] [aDDont]

[Lagunavii]

My biggest gripe with the game and its not exactly a gripe that makes me say "nope not playing that" But I hate when scenes have xrays/internal shots. I do hope we get an option to turn that shit off in future.

 

[88stanford88]

don’t quite understand what the debate is about,

The dabate was about having a path where NTR and NTS can coexist

When I wrote about a site with black pages, it wasn’t the name of a site—

Yes but this is not my point... I'm using your game writing just to prove you what I don't like the way you decided to write your game:
This is Mila thought from the scripd "So that's why I opened up my true self \"there\". On a forum with pages, black just as my desires."
By writing in the same sentence the word forum with pages and after the comma you write, “black just like my desires”... I understand that her desires are to fuck black dicks (is this a porn game?)... especially because right after that Mila gets a text in her phone from Dick82 where her husband texted her just a second earlyto which Mila reacts by getting angry. Dick82 definitely has a black dick
but this is not the only point... Dick82 appears before the choice for NTS/NTR route... and as you said to me in this post:

I’m not quite sure how you came to that conclusion—no, Mila will only be with Black guys in the BBC route. However, in the NTR.Camgirl and NTR.SugarDaddy routes, I don’t plan to include Black men at all. There might be some random characters with dark skin, but it won’t be a preference.

As you said the BBC route is only in the NTR route... I understood and found the way to have the two/three or more paths without having to have 2/3 or more different sets of saves
so I think you have to rewrite

But as I said now I know how to play this game
This game needs a mod to open all paths!
I will wait ... because this game will requires many many years to progress

Cheating is not swinging.

Exactly.

But "cheating" can coexist with swinging like in the best games of the adult game world
....
But even in real life when a woman puts her marriage in crisis in this case after 15 years of fidelity... she starts thinking about cheating on her husband because he neglects her but, there is no way she knows from the beginning whether to go down an NTS path... because she is not sure how her husband might react and a single choice is not enough to decide whether to go down an NTR or NTS path...

dear dev, you are basically writing endings and then taking away all possibile choices from the players based on the husband's reactions
Your game has no choices that can lead to second thoughts....
in the first 5 minutes you are the one forcing the players' choices
here you are forcing to choice the Loyal or the Cheating Ending (cheating is good for both NTR and NTS.. /bc here husband is not presente when she fucks with BOB.. so she is cheating Paul also with BOB.. and in the dialoge this is clear

"No harm if nobody knows...":
jump NTR_Netorase
From now on there is no way to back in the loyal route

and here another choice for 2 different endings after only 10 seconds... is this a joke? for sure it is not a game!
"I should talk to Paul before I made more mistakes...":
jump Netorase
From now on there is no way to back in the NTR route
"I do what I want, and no one will stop me":
jump NTR
From now on there is no way to back in the NTS route
BUT NTR AND NTS CAN COEXIST !!!! These are endings that comes in the first 5 minutes of the game! NO STORY!

And is this the way of writing of a truly great writer?

 

[88stanford88]

I liked this game so much in the first release... but after understanding the inconsistence in writing style... It is with sadness that I say that I don't like this game and I explain to you.

Let me give you an example.
Do you like murder mystery stories?...I like the ones where the murderer is known only at the end....
In the plots you are putting in this game the player knows from the beginning what to expect...these kinds of predictable plots are just as stupid as knowing the murderer at the beginning of a murder mystery book

There is no more mystery in your story It is ALL PREDICTABLE;
the player will select choices and he knows that there will be only a single route up to the next choice that excludes the previous one!

you are writing 3/4 separate "childish" stories for "adults" that are very stupid and predictable (just make one choice and I'll lose all other paths) it's a game for losers... where fate is sealed with every choice you make... because you make one and you lose everything else... totally unrealistic

….and after the "web-cam-girl" vs "BBC" route what do you make up? For sure the player loses the BBC one!
I already know everything about this senseless game..

So Mila becomes a cam girl and doesn't fuck real dicks anymore? No more NTR?
This becomes in ending where she hates men and has sex only Dildos of various shapes and sizes.... And then what do you do?. There will be a new forced choice where she only fucks horses with huge dicks and by doing this NO NTR because black dicks are no longer enough for her??? Ridiculous!

I'm sorry but this type of game is not for me... I will back when the story will progress a lot just to verify and check the advancement and there will be a good mod that open all paths.

 

[Lagunavii]

The dabate was about having a path where NTR and NTS can coexist

No, Don't change the goalposts now. a lot of the debate was your misunderstanding of the phrase "on a forum with pages, as black as my desires" You were told on no less than 3 occasions you were interpreting that sentence wrong and doubled down each time in your responses even calling us dumb. The debate may have started with why cant we have both NTR and NTS (the simple answer is cause the dev says no)

This is Mila thought from the scripd "So that's why I opened up my true self \"there\". On a forum with pages, black just as my desires."
By writing in the same sentence the word forum with pages and after the comma you write, “black just like my desires”... I understand that her desires are to fuck black dicks (is this a porn game?)... especially because right after that Mila gets a text in her phone from Dick82 where her husband texted her just a second earlyto which Mila reacts by getting angry. Dick82 definitely has a black dick

As I have said and as others have said this was your misunderstanding of the term black here. aDDont has already gone into what they meant when they wrote that. But as I told you previously. the fact that Dick82 was black was just a coincidence, the quote could have been "On a forum with pages, dirty just as my desires." and everything could have happened the same. The quote could have stayed the same and then a white man texts her and everything would have remained the same - the point is the word black in that quote is irrelevant. it was just an adjective used to describe the pages on the forum. Is it bad writing on the devs side, maybe, but I'm going to say maybe not as it seems you are the only one who took it like that.

As you said the BBC route is only in the NTR route... I understood and found the way to have the two/three or more paths without having to have 2/3 or more different sets of saves
so I think you have to rewrite

But "cheating" can coexist with swinging like in the best games of the adult game world

No one saying it cant - its just in this game it doesn't make sense too. She is either too scared to talk to her husband and therefore doesn't get what she wants from him and therefore cheats or she is brave, tells him everything and then gets what she wants from him and therefore has no reason to cheat.


But as I said now I know how to play this game
This game needs a mod to open all paths!
I will wait ... because this game will requires many many years to progress

So because you would rather play all paths at once in a way that won't make sense the dev should rewrite his entire game? Highly selfish of you. Ive told you elsewhere people are more than happy to play multiple paths at once and get more out of a game than just scenes. the dev wants the paths to be separate so its the way it is. As you once told me in another games forum "if you don't like it, maybe this game is not for you"

dear dev, you are basically writing endings and then taking away all possibile choices from the players based on the husband's reactions

How is he taking away choices when you actually are presented with them in the game? Youre not mad about the choices, you're mad that you get locked to one path rather than being able to flip flop between them

Its not hard to understand the logic behind the choices

"I should stop here/ she knows these thoughts she is having are dangerous and she should stop here for the sake of her marriage, even in the text running up to this shes questions these thoughts, she knows she has a happy life. it's not a massive leap to understand why she would do this. Obviously we don't have a loyal path yet, but once she understand her thoughts are dangerous, why would she ever act on them?

"No harm if no body knows" - this is a justification a lot of people use when they are doing something bad. "ah its okay if I do bad, nobody will find out" but even the strongest of people give in to their desires, even if they are wrong and the fact she justifies it this way tells us she knows its wrong. - this choice doesn't really put you on any path, it just keeps you off the loyal path, because clearly you are not, so if you are not loyal how could you ever get back on it? it also gets the set up ready for the next choice.

"I should talk to Paul before I make more mistakes..." She obviously knows cheating is wrong, she calls what she has done a mistake, she tells Paul and he becomes the man she wanted - why would she go back to cheating, when she clearly loves Paul and she knew the events with Dick82 up to this point were a mistake and now shes getting what she wanted?

"I do what I want, and no one will stop me" She has made her choice, she doesn't care about Paul now, she is being selfish, her happiness, her needs her wants! They are what matters now and she will get them any way she can, not caring about the people she hurts along the way. She is a cheater now and there is no way back.

And is this the way of writing of a truly great writer?

Yes it is, because the paths are written in a way they are mutually exclusive - the writer of the game wants you to experience each of the paths separately - I've said it before to you, choices have consequences, and we get to see the consequences of the choices Mila makes thereafter.

 

[aDDont]

No, Don't change the goalposts now. a lot of the debate was your misunderstanding of the phrase "on a forum with pages, as black as my desires" You were told on no less than 3 occasions you were interpreting that sentence wrong and doubled down each time in your responses even calling us dumb. The debate may have started with why cant we have both NTR and NTS (the simple answer is cause the dev says no)


As I have said and as others have said this was your misunderstanding of the term black here. aDDont has already gone into what they meant when they wrote that. But as I told you previously. the fact that Dick82 was black was just a coincidence, the quote could have been "On a forum with pages, dirty just as my desires." and everything could have happened the same. The quote could have stayed the same and then a white man texts her and everything would have remained the same - the point is the word black in that quote is irrelevant. it was just an adjective used to describe the pages on the forum. Is it bad writing on the devs side, maybe, but I'm going to say maybe not as it seems you are the only one who took it like that.


So because you would rather play all paths at once in a way that won't make sense the dev should rewrite his entire game? Highly selfish of you. Ive told you elsewhere people are more than happy to play multiple paths at once and get more out of a game than just scenes. the dev wants the paths to be separate so its the way it is. As you once told me in another games forum "if you don't like it, maybe this game is not for you"


How is he taking away choices when you actually are presented with them in the game? Youre not mad about the choices, you're mad that you get locked to one path rather than being able to flip flop between them

Its not hard to understand the logic behind the choices

"I should stop here/ she knows these thoughts she is having are dangerous and she should stop here for the sake of her marriage, even in the text running up to this shes questions these thoughts, she knows she has a happy life. it's not a massive leap to understand why she would do this. Obviously we don't have a loyal path yet, but once she understand her thoughts are dangerous, why would she ever act on them?

"No harm if no body knows" - this is a justification a lot of people use when they are doing something bad. "ah its okay if I do bad, nobody will find out" but even the strongest of people give in to their desires, even if they are wrong and the fact she justifies it this way tells us she knows its wrong. - this choice doesn't really put you on any path, it just keeps you off the loyal path, because clearly you are not, so if you are not loyal how could you ever get back on it? it also gets the set up ready for the next choice.

"I should talk to Paul before I make more mistakes..." She obviously knows cheating is wrong, she calls what she has done a mistake, she tells Paul and he becomes the man she wanted - why would she go back to cheating, when she clearly loves Paul and she knew the events with Dick82 up to this point were a mistake and now shes getting what she wanted?

"I do what I want, and no one will stop me" She has made her choice, she doesn't care about Paul now, she is being selfish, her happiness, her needs her wants! They are what matters now and she will get them any way she can, not caring about the people she hurts along the way. She is a cheater now and there is no way back.



Yes it is, because the paths are written in a way they are mutually exclusive - the writer of the game wants you to experience each of the paths separately - I've said it before to you, choices have consequences, and we get to see the consequences of the choices Mila makes thereafter.

I completely agree with that.

 

[88stanford88]

He agrees with a wall if text that repeat again and again the seme non sense
you are writing ENDINGS! And you will have problem to progress in the story... BC your paths are ENDINGS!
And NTS is compatible with NTR... if not they are ENDINGS AFTER JUST 5 MINUTES OF GAME

 

[Rehwyn]

... but it seems the issue is that my English is shaky enough for the same phrases to be interpreted in multiple ways.

I'm a native English speaker. Your English is fine and I understood exactly what you were trying to communicate with Mila's thoughts in that scene.

 

[Lagunavii]

I'm a native English speaker. Your English is fine and I understood exactly what you were trying to communicate with Mila's thoughts in that scene.

We only really have evidence that one person, didn't understand what was meant by that phrase. Well, I guess I didn't, I thought it was referring to the actual content on the pages as being similar to her desires. But still I knew it wasn't the title of the forum. So id say the English was fine too.

 

[88stanford88]

Yes it is, because the paths are written in a way they are mutually exclusive

So they are endings!
As you see I understand exactly how the game works and that's why I don't like to play it.... so instead of repeating the same things over and over again as you often do
I asked questions... Addont answered me... and I understood that it is not the kind of game that tells about a realistic story
as I said as soon as there is a mod that opens all the paths I will come back to play it but it is not a story...it is all episodes separated by choices that once made, they become endings!

Thanks for you kindness in reading my posts ... don't forget to take your pills

 

[Rehwyn]

...a wall if text that repeat again and again the seme non sense

The sheer irony of this statement is killing me.

 

[Lagunavii]

So they are endings!
As you see I understand exactly how the game works and that's why I don't like to play it.... so instead of repeating the same things over and over again as you often do
I asked questions... Addont answered me... and I understood that it is not the kind of game that tells about a realistic story
as I said as soon as there is a mod that opens all the paths I will come back to play it but it is not a story...it is all episodes separated by choices that once made, they become endings!

Thanks for you kindness in reading my posts ... don't forget to take your pills

Well no, they are choices to get to an ending. These are AVNs at the end of the day. every novel has an ending. we may be locked into getting a certain kind of ending but its still fun to get there. If you don't want to play it, fine move on.

I fail to see how it is not realistic. Shes either a cheater and we follow her through the cheating path or shes not and we follow her through the Non cheating path whether that be loyal or the hotwife path. Many people in real life are faithful, many people in real life walk a cheaters path and many people walk only the Hotwife path "oh but NTR and NTS can work together." not in this game. its not the story the dev wants to tell. get over it.

the mods available for you pal! you dont want a coherent story, you just want the scenes. here you are use this mod, it'll unlock any gallery for a game with one. Youre welcome.

You can say take your pills to me as much as you like, it doesn't make you funny or clever. it just makes you look like a troll, esp considering you were ready to die on that hill about a website name and you were wrong about it and I was right,

 

[88stanford88]

The sheer irony of this statement is killing me.

I have to put a lot of irony and I understand very well what you mean....
but it is what follows the ironic sentence that is important and that is not repetitive at all....
it reveals the writing style of this game...

I always wondered what the game was trying to tell from the very first time...the sentence you avoided posting is exactly how MIla's story will be from now on (if the dev do not rework it again)

Now I know how the game will be so I can start to ignore again the repetitive guys that need pills for his brain! (I was ignoring him since the end of November)

Thanks ... Now I discovered everything about Mila's AI and this case is closed for me!

 

[Joshy92]

The game is awesome let's just enjoy it instead of arguing imo. Now I only play the NTS route because I don't like cheating but even so it was an enjoyable experience that I'll keep coming back to.

Now I just imagine Mila getting her pussy resized by some big dicks and then coming back to me for cuddles and emotional support.

 

[Rehwyn]

The game is awesome let's just enjoy it instead of arguing imo. Now I only play the NTS route because I don't like cheating but even so it was an enjoyable experience that I'll keep coming back to.

Now I just imagine Mila getting her pussy resized by some big dicks and then coming back to me for cuddles and emotional support.

I agree. Cheating isn't really my thing either. Definitely looking forward to future updates on the NTS and loyal branches though!

 

[Lagunavii]

The game is awesome let's just enjoy it instead of arguing imo. Now I only play the NTS route because I don't like cheating but even so it was an enjoyable experience that I'll keep coming back to.

Oh there is only one person who is denying the game is awesome, that's where the disagreements are coming from. I think its done now though I dont like cheating either, mainly because its jut a means to an end in these kinda games. but I am happy to walk the path in this game, as our good friend Stanford said, it seems that since paths arent crossing the ending is already written and Im a firm believer of actions having consequences. So am all for where that path will lead.

 

[Joshy92]

Oh there is only one person who is denying the game is awesome, that's where the disagreements are coming from. I think its done now though I dont like cheating either, mainly because its jut a means to an end in these kinda games. but I am happy to walk the path in this game, as our good friend Stanford said, it seems that since paths arent crossing the ending is already written and Im a firm believer of actions having consequences. So am all for where that path will lead.

I just feel if I do multiple paths in a game it waters down the importance of choices. It's a me thing really. That and I really don't like ntr tbh.

 

[Lagunavii]

I just feel if I do multiple paths in a game it waters down the importance of choices. It's a me thing really. That and I really don't like ntr tbh.

Ive made that argument in another thread... in that if all paths are going to lead to Rome so to speak, what is the point in the choices anyway? Im all for one pah locking out another, it give meaning to them choices. I don't mind NTR as long as its done right, there are few games that seem to get it. (this one does)

 

[Joshy92]

I have a scene idea for the NTS path. What if Mila is riding Bob in the cowgirl position and Paul comes up from behind and gently nibbles on her ear and kisses her neck?

And maybe as Bob climaxes inside Mila Paul can whisper 'I love you honey' in her ear.

 

[Lagunavii]

I have a scene idea for the NTS path. What if Mila is riding Bob in the cowgirl position and Paul comes up from behind and gently nibbles on her ear and kisses her neck?

And maybe as Bob climaxes inside Mila Paul can whisper 'I love you honey' in her ear.

What about Mila rides Bob until he climaxes inside her, then tells her husband to lie down before sitting on his face and feeding him

 

[Joshy92]

What about Mila rides Bob until he climaxes inside her, then tells her husband to lie down before sitting on his face and feeding him

I like that I'm just a big fan of the MC in NTS stuff showing his love for his partner in sort of a romantic way. One of the hottest things for me is when he emotionally and verbally encourages her to have fun.