VN Ren'Py Mila AI [v1.5.3public] [aDDont]

[Kateterpeter]

Is there any content on the Webcam girl route yet?

 

[Aspili]

Yes and no what I am saying is that since the NTR and NTS routes are compatible with the ability for the player to choose which scenes to see it would be good to avoid having the losing husband only in the BBC route
and of course I'm not interesting in following other paths because I fully understand the game that ADDont is playing.

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If here your choice is for Sugar Daddy path you will lose forever the BBC path
While what I would like to have is to be able to go through both the "SUGAR DADDY" path and the "WEBCAM" path by still playing the NTR path that is compatible with both of them!

The same happens with the web-cam choice
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if you select webcam you will never see Mila fucking with Dick!


and this is the same shit thing that happens at the beginning when the player is forced to choose between BOB/NTS and DICK/NTR
...AND.... as I consider NTS and NTR paths compatible I also consider it compatible to choose Sugar Daddy who can be compatible with NTR/BBC and WEBCAM...
So this dev does not allow ne to plath that i like and i hate to save one path that will only work for future updates!

IN SUM what I hate about aDDont's writing style is that these choices immediately cause the loss of a path...
so they are choices that lead directly to endings... as i said in December in this link
https://f95zone.to/threads/mila-ai-v1-4-3public-addont.188775/post-15633381

They are not choices to continue the path you like...they are choices made to force you to wait years before getting a linear story that would have today already reached the ending!

As you can see I realized from the first time the problem this game had is that to complete the main path that the DICK/BBC one the developer is doing everything to delay a story that could already be completed today...
Addon't is creating fairly linear and moderately-short VNs only that to lengthen the broth will make us wait for years for something that could have already been completed

in short What I don't like is the fact that he is taking a short story to the long run by adding unnecessary and meaningless paths just to hide the fact that it contains only short linear novels that are different from each other.

I am not quite sure if I understand you properly, but you expect that all paths are available all the time and that you can switch between them?

Because that is not how it works, I think.

With every route we have a slightly different Mila.

Because, and honestly I hate this about several other games, no "person" has all kinks and fetishes at once and mashed together.

I for one am more "fan" of a "real life" approach if you will. I personally have my fetishes in RL and not all of them are met by my wife. So has she (and some desires I am definitely not able or willing to fullfill)
D/s, Cuck, bodily fluid, BDSM in it's varieties, vanilla etc.
My wife and I share some but some we meet outside. The only one we both don't like is the HW/Cuck kink. I'd never watch her and if any of her partners disrespect me there will be consequences from both me and my wife. Same goes for my "sidepiece(s)". My GF expects monogamy from me (exception is my wife) and I can respect that.

You seem to miss the point if you expect the all-in-one approach. Just my 2 cents

 

[Princess Groundhog]

OnlyFans planned for NTS route, yep) I am not sure on which routes, but yeah it will be there)

I really hope you can figure out a way to really roleplay that, I think it would be very fun to have OnlyFans mechanics that I’m surprised very few games do. Letting you live out your camgirl fantasies.

 

[Silken on Demand]

Okay so.. I have a question for everyone. And yes this is a totally serious question.

Would you all be willing to start the story over from the beginning if certain changes where
made with the overall story and pathing? I'm not talking about major changes but restructuring
of events to be more consistent and paced. Not an overhaul or redo. Nothing like that.
Just adding more to Mila's life to better set up and explain her motivations?

Some areas are a bit rough. But just expanding on them is all that's really necessary.

So I'm curious to know what you all think. Would you be willing to start over if the story
was expanded to fill in some of the spaces and smooth out some of the bumps?

 

[Princess Groundhog]

Okay so.. I have a question for everyone. And yes this is a totally serious question.

Would you all be willing to start the story over from the beginning if certain changes where
made with the overall story and pathing? I'm not talking about major changes but restructuring
of events to be more consistent and paced. Not an overhaul or redo. Nothing like that.
Just adding more to Mila's life to better set up and explain her motivations?

Some areas are a bit rough. But just expanding on them is all that's really necessary.

So I'm curious to know what you all think. Would you be willing to start over if the story
was expanded to fill in some of the spaces and smooth out some of the bumps?

I think aDDont mentioned wanting to rework the beginning so I would be down for that to give Mila’s character more depth.

 

[MightbeSomeone]

Okay so.. I have a question for everyone. And yes this is a totally serious question.

Would you all be willing to start the story over from the beginning if certain changes where
made with the overall story and pathing? I'm not talking about major changes but restructuring
of events to be more consistent and paced. Not an overhaul or redo. Nothing like that.
Just adding more to Mila's life to better set up and explain her motivations?

Some areas are a bit rough. But just expanding on them is all that's really necessary.

So I'm curious to know what you all think. Would you be willing to start over if the story
was expanded to fill in some of the spaces and smooth out some of the bumps?

Im happy to see a revamp with more background

 

[Essta]

Doing sex with another man is cheating!

I dont fucking know about you but im really enjoying the throuple NTS route and i dont see where any of that is cheating since depending on choices its initiated by Paul to begin with and all parties involved enthusiastically consent. Funny enough its Bob who was the most apprehensive about it.


Quite frankly your whole attitude here reeks of insecurity which is deeply unattractive. Touch grass and reflect.

 

[X|Mortis]

Just adding more to Mila's life to better set up and explain her motivations?

Some background character context would be helpful to better level set character aspirations, motivations, and hidden desires leading up to the current state in the story.

A good precursor build-up would help us as the players, be more invested in the gameplay narrative experience.

Would you be willing to start over if the story
was expanded to fill in some of the spaces and smooth out some of the bumps?

I would, so long as it is done sparingly. What I mean is that Mila's motivations are not drastically different from how she is portrayed in the start of the game. If things are kept consistent in her backstory leading into the prologue and beyond, it would make for a more compelling (yet pragmatic) narrative experience.

 

[Silken on Demand]

So it is just a fantasy story?
As I said this kind of story telling is not my cup of tea View attachment 4877635
and if you wade through the result of the poll above I think the majority agrees with me
This is just a fantasy tale for children who don't know what it is like to live in a marriage in real life-

I prefer stories with a more realistic approach!
and fortunately there are other games here that are written by more talented authors

In any case i never said that the BBC path must include the NTS
I just said that it would be great if the author add an additional path that includes a MIX of NTR and NTS
and all actual paths included in the game must remain the same!
bc netorase is another way for your wife to cheat on her husband!

Doing sex with another man is cheating!

Wait.
A mix of NTR and NTS?

Neither are cheating. In fact one doesn't even exist.
Let me ask you. What's the difference between "Wakaru" and "Wakari"?
I'll tell you. Nothing. Wakaru means to understand. Wakaru and Wakari are
the same word in two different forms. It is a verb. You are doing something.
"Understanding" - I hope.

Netoru and Netori are the same thing. Different forms of the same verb. "To steal".
In this case a special verb. Meaning to STEAL someone's husband, wife or lover.
Not to cheat. Not infidelity. To steal. Literally take away from.
If I'm moaning "take me! take me!" I am saying "Netoru! Netoru!"
I'm Japanese and a girl. So I know this for a fact.

"Uwakisuru" is cheating in Japanese. "Futei" is infidelity.

If you mix water and water.. you get water.
If you like water and water... you are very hydrated.

"Nomeru" is to drink in Japanese. "Nomi" is still to drink in Japanese hahaha

 

[Saerwen]

Wait.
A mix of NTR and NTS?

Neither are cheating. In fact one doesn't even exist.
Let me ask you. What's the difference between "Wakaru" and "Wakari"?
I'll tell you. Nothing. Wakaru means to understand. Wakaru and Wakari are
the same word in two different forms. It is a verb. You are doing something.
"Understanding" - I hope.

Netoru and Netori are the same thing. Different forms of the same verb. "To steal".
In this case a special verb. Meaning to STEAL someone's husband, wife or lover.
Not to cheat. Not infidelity. To steal. Literally take away from.
If I'm moaning "take me! take me!" I am saying "Netoru! Netoru!"
I'm Japanese and a girl. So I know this for a fact.

"Uwakisuru" is cheating in Japanese. "Futei" is infidelity.

If you mix water and water.. you get water.
If you like water and water... you are very hydrated.

"Nomeru" is to drink in Japanese. "Nomi" is still to drink in Japanese hahaha

Unfortunately, the majority of users think that it's the same. Believe it or not but Japanese NTR and western isn't the same. Japanese is to steal but western is to cheat. There's even different types of NTR on vndb,

You must be registered to see the links

The obsession with NTR is... I don't have the words. There are so many threads about NTR and users fighting over it like some petty children. One half love it and the other hate it and idk why it's worse than any other hardcore disturbing kinks.

 

[Adhdclassic]

Unfortunately, the majority of users think that it's the same. Believe it or not but Japanese NTR and western isn't the same. Japanese is to steal but western is to cheat. There's even different types of NTR on vndb,

You must be registered to see the links

The obsession with NTR is... I don't have the words. There are so many threads about NTR and users fighting over it like some petty children. One half love it and the other hate it and idk why it's worse than any other hardcore disturbing kinks.

I agree with you. Incest beastiality I always thought those would be like topic breakers but NTR is on a whole different level.

 

[Saerwen]

I agree with you. Incest beastiality I always thought those would be like topic breakers but NTR is on a whole different level.

Yes and I figured it out that to people is worse than everything else because most people either cheat and have been cheated on.

 

[Joshy92]

I do personally think that the start could use more polishing if the game is to go on steam some day. First impressions are so important.

 

[DeviantFun]

Unfortunately, the majority of users think that it's the same. Believe it or not but Japanese NTR and western isn't the same. Japanese is to steal but western is to cheat. There's even different types of NTR on vndb,

You must be registered to see the links

The obsession with NTR is... I don't have the words. There are so many threads about NTR and users fighting over it like some petty children. One half love it and the other hate it and idk why it's worse than any other hardcore disturbing kinks.

Probably it is because cheating is more relatable than actual incest or bestiality, so people are more invested and opinionated.

I personally dislike the usual NTR portrayal more than the NTR concept itself, even if it a kink I am very far away from I can appreciate a good story (and sex).
But it is the same as incest, not interesting to me but I can get on with it if there is a good story behind.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I do personally think that the start could use more polishing if the game is to go on steam some day. First impressions are so important.

The evolution of the art work is not bad reminds me of a couple's duet of love and lust. That shit looked like a child did it now wow. Same with this game alot of room to grow.

 

[88stanford88]

Not neccessarily.

right... not always but in NTS and NTR path the husband is for sure a cuck in all cases

... and in the real world when you start an open relationship with your wife you can't be sure if she is not cheating...

and talking about this game, in the NTS route of this game she is cheating on her husband... because her hubby is not present when Mila fucks with the fat BOB... and in my opinion s totally unrealistic that her husband push her to have sex wih other men and he doesn't even try to be present while she is having sex with the fat guy....
I just don't see any chance of that happening in the real world ... because when I share my wife with someone else I want to be there to participate in the sex or at least to be a loser voyeur

in any case as I said the ,amy scenes in the NTR/BBC can be shared with the NTS just changing the dialogues.
I'll simply give you a few example to make it clearer my opinion.
I think the developer is throwing away a lot of time creating different scenes and outfits that he only uses for that particular path...
This lengthens the release time of updates and does not help the story and be better...
She doesn't know how to plan a multitasking job using the same settings for multiple paths....
Good thing at least the house setting is always the same
But check this out:

This path can be good also for the NTS path

All it would take is for the guy behind Mila to be her husband who sends Mila ahead to find a stranger to give a blowjob to in the public restroom in the park!

And in this case (when Mila is at the Mall with Dick)
It would be enough that instead of Dick suggesting which dress Mila have to wear
it would be enough to change Dick's name to Paul
By doing this simple changes you can have the same scene that fit with NTS and maybe with all paths also in Loyal path this scene is good just changing the name of the man that is talking with Mila.

And to have an additional mixed path NTS/NTR (as i would like to see) it would be enough that at the Mall there was Paul and Dick together suggesting to Mila which dress to buy

Remember that this is just a little example of many scenes in this game that can be shared through the various paths.

It seems to me that this developer is wasting a lot of time at creating different scenes for each path....
Basically aDDont is creating different games for each path and it is really a waste of time and resources that do not help the consistency of this VN

I would like to be clear that I really like the story the author is creating...
I don't like those who criticize to destroy an artist's creativity...but I am trying to point out some flaws that in my opinion could be solved with a better organization of his work...
Mine is constructive criticism, and I really like Mila both in the first version where she looked like a Japanese cartoon and in the version where she became a 3D sex bomb.

I hope Addont will be able to use some of my suggestions to speed-up the furure update of his great game...
Maybe in the beginning he will lose some time to change his workflow and there will be a delay...but once he organizes the setting...he may be able to release updates more quickly without changing the meaning of the paths as he wants to write them

But i really hope he will add a new additional path that includes NTS and NTR without changing what is already done!

I will back in the next BBC/NTR update

Thanks

 

[Essta]

Netoru and Netori are the same thing.

Netoru? This genre im really not a expert (not really my thing) but i heard theres billion terms describing exactly who is and isnt getting stolen, wheter its consentually, and by whom. But i can only name Netorare and Netori. I think theres Netorase?

 

[Essta]

... and in the real world when you start an open relationship with your wife you can't be sure if she is not cheating...

Not every open relationship is the same, there'll be rules and limits set, but typically sex with people outside of the relationship is explicitly permissed so if we take sex as the measure of cheating then there can be no cheating in a open relationship. Cheating is defined by the violation of boundaries of a relationship and so a permissive relationship can not be cheated on in this way.
If you dont trust your partner you cannot be sure if the're cheating, ever, no matter the relationship.

By my perspective my SO cheated on me once because my expectation was that erotic roleplay online via text with others is off limits in a exclusive relationship. He thought it was okay, and so do many people, but i wasnt one of them. It was one of the things i overlooked when we were discussing what we expect from our relationship... No problem, i asked him to stop and he complied. But i definitely felt very hurt at the time.



Personally i would be unhappy if there were scene reuse. At least scene reuse that blatant. Please dont just paste scenes and change the names of the guy. Yknow how AI stuff has this low effort reputation? This project demonstrates its not low effort, but this kind of scene reuse definitely would be. Im not against putting Mila into the same and similar situations with Paul instead of Dick, but use them as a inspiration not as a template.

 

[Aspili]

right... not always but in NTS and NTR path the husband is for sure a cuck in all cases

Ok, for games, most likely

... and in the real world when you start an open relationship with your wife you can't be sure if she is not cheating...

You can never be sure if someone cheats, open or not. Believe me, I have seen more sordid things from monogamous people in closed relationships than from my ENM folks. Or to quote my wife: yikes. *add some choice words here and me being in the doghouse for a bit*

The cool thing about ENM is that you sort of "eliminate" the biggest triggers to cheat for men and women alike. Plus, if you dive into the community you nearly even out the odds.

I don't want to derail too much, but I live poly for years now. Actually since we started dating more or less. We dabbled into a lot of stuff over time and found out what we like and what is off the table entirely or for one of us. There are certain hard boundaries in place we agreed upon and funnily enough most of them came from my wife, not me. I don't think this forum is the place to discuss it, though.

I think there are very common misconceptions about ENM that are projected into these games, unfortunately.

If someone likes to discuss the whole topic more, we might take it elsewhere, though. This is a game thread and not an ENM/affair thread after all.

But I can agree with you that addont can reduce his workload a bit by reusing some images and changing the writing accordingly.

The question for me is always another one: Would it be wiser to focus on one pathe at a time. Like from start to finish and then add the other paths accordingly. Because what I have found in several games (My hotwife is a glaring example) is that choices made by the player get negated by the storytelling later on which is a major dealbreaker for me.

 

[88stanford88]

Not every open relationship is the same, there'll be rules and limits set

open relationship means NO LIMITS for me... when you put limits that relationship will not last for long!

the word OPEN means everything is accessible
If the open relationship you are talking about has limitation is not an real open relationship
(this means that there is one of the partners who puts himself in charge of the other).
And again you will never be able to know what your wife is doing when you are not present...

By my perspective my SO cheated on me once because my expectation was that erotic roleplay online via text with others is off limits in a exclusive relationship. He thought it was okay, and so do many people, but i wasnt one of them. It was one of the things i overlooked when we were discussing what we expect from our relationship... No problem, i asked him to stop and he complied. But i definitely felt very hurt at the time.

Are you talking about your relationship?
if he has adapted sooner or later he will treat you the same way in another situation....
The relationship between two people, especially if it is a man and a woman, should be equal and balanced, and the right to break the rules is part of the relationship precisely because it helps to establish the fact that my woman has exactly the same rights as I do...
in any case, your little story confirms that your partner had not asked your permission

- And indeed, this point only is like a cheating

Personally i would be unhappy if there were scene reuse. At least scene reuse that blatant. Please dont just paste scenes and change the names of the guy. Yknow how AI stuff has this low effort reputation? This project demonstrates its not low effort, but this kind of scene reuse definitely would be. Im not against putting Mila into the same and similar situations with Paul instead of Dick, but use them as a inspiration not as a template.

I respect your opinion but creating different scenes is just a waste of time and adds nothing to the plot of the game
instead by adapting the scenes to the different paths we could all have faster updates of all the paths without changing the sense of the various path!!

The scenes with BOB are really horrible compared to the scenes where Mila is with Dick-the-BBC...
and that says that Mila would rather go out with BBC than BOB... because when a girl puts on makeup and dresses well to go out with someone this is a sign that she cares a lot about the person she is dating...
In deed, if her husband were in the scene where she picks out clothes to go on the date it would highlight the fact that her husband cares a lot about Mila's appearance... and that is always a sign of love for one's wife!

It seems obvious to me that the developer is not married otherwise he would be very careful about this.
I personally, being married to a very sexy and hot woman, have learned that taking care of my wife's appearance has always led us to end up with a satisfying evening of sex for both of us.

You are free to do not agree with me but thanks to be interested in my opinion

Cheers