VN Ren'Py Mila AI [v1.5.3public] [aDDont]

[88stanford88]

I wish this guy would stop yapping and clogging up my notifications

just use the ignore function clicking on my name and you will no longer receive notification about my posts

 

[hardcoretangkhulgamer]

nice

 

[aDDont]

88stanford88
I’ve only ever asked to ban someone in this thread once — other than that, I’m all for constructive criticism and free speech. If your posts are being deleted, it’s not by me — as far as I know, the mods only remove spam and insults. People are free to say and think whatever they want. I just ask everyone to do it respectfully — there’s already enough crap in the world without us fighting online over a game.

The earlier posts were referring to the original The Witcher from 2013, the one based on Sapkowski’s books — not the series (the show is trash). I meant the game by CD Projekt Red. It’s a masterpiece, but you probably wouldn’t like it since the player’s choices affect the environment, the world, and Geralt himself (the main character).

And yeah, I’m really not an expert — I just happened to win a couple of local writing contests and made it to the finals in a light novel competition a few times in the Russian-speaking segment (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc.). I’m not an expert — but what you’re suggesting is a mess, not a “well-written character.”
On top of that, your approach would make the game meaningless, since your choices wouldn’t affect anything. But we’ve already talked about this — my opinion hasn’t changed, and we agreed to disagree.

 

[Princess Groundhog]

Isn’t it the point of choice-based games to offer meaningful decision points that alter the story and change the characters? Look at Life Is Strange too for an example.

 

[Reieux3]

Someone interested in the storywriting aspect of games (and very vocal about that) pretends not to know "The Witcher". Give me a break. He's a troll.

 

[88stanford88]

@88stanford88
I’ve only ever asked to ban someone in this thread once — other than that, I’m all for constructive criticism and free speech. If your posts are being deleted, it’s not by me — as far as I know, the mods only remove spam and insults. People are free to say and think whatever they want. I just ask everyone to do it respectfully — there’s already enough crap in the world without us fighting online over a game.

Thank for replay to me... your game is not that bad and the sex scenes are hot... What's missing is a path that allows Bob and Dick to be combined in the same path.but you are the boss and I saved the start of the game (so I can watch Dick and Bob even there is not a consistent connection betwee the 2 path... it is a pity.

I never thought it was you who had three of my previous posts deleted... the reason for deleting said “Clean up from argument / deleted comments” and in fact the comments I was replying to were also deleted...
and the moderators are doing their job well. (Some commented on the fact that NTS and NTR are incompatible, and I replied that this site uses “netorare” as a single tag that groups together the different subgenres of NTR, NTS, and Netori.)
But I found a post that allowed me to clarify what I meant when I said that Mila seems like a person with multiple personalities depending on the path chosen by the player

The earlier posts were referring to the original The Witcher from 2013, the one based on Sapkowski’s books — not the series (the show is trash). I meant the game by CD Projekt Red. It’s a masterpiece, but you probably wouldn’t like it since the player’s choices affect the environment, the world, and Geralt himself (the main character).

I really never played The Witcher" game I also tryed to search for download... is this game in F95?
please if you have the link I will be happy to play... and i think with the addiction info you gave me it will be easy for me to find this masterpiece that obviously is inspiring you

And yeah, I’m really not an expert — I just happened to win a couple of local writing contests and made it to the finals in a light novel competition a few times in the Russian-speaking segment (Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, etc.). I’m not an expert — but what you’re suggesting is a mess, not a “well-written character.”
On top of that, your approach would make the game meaningless, since your choices wouldn’t affect anything. But we’ve already talked about this — my opinion hasn’t changed, and we agreed to disagree.

So i was wrong you are a great writer.. I'm happy to be wrong about this point.

I don't want to change your mind, and I appreciate authors who are convinced of what they have chosen to do. I really hope that in a few years, when there is an evolution in the main paths, I might change my mind...
But regarding this, I wanted to make it clear to you where my opinion comes from...
In the spoiler, you will find the very beginning of the story.

Spoiler: The start of the story is perfect!!

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The start of the story is perfect!! It is clear since the start that this is a NTR story! (with the term NTR i include all sub genre like in all games and JAV.

Spoiler: Up to this point there are no choices and Dick is the first character for the player

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Up to this point, there are no choices for the player to make, and if we want to see Mila without her clothes on, we have to comply with Dick's requests. (I hate the harem genre, so OK)

To do this, I follow the Cheating Sharing path, which up to now has been correctly included in a single path.

But here we come to the point where we have to save if we want to continue with Dick without losing the NTS path... but above all, here is the first inconsistency in the plot that we will carry with us forever.

Mila completely loses all her desires by choosing the sharing path, which includes having sex with Bob without her husband being present... this is NTR+NTS mixed together.
Sharing route is meaningless! with the true desires of Mila at the start of the game!

Why is it that when choosing the sharing route, Mila is never tempted to check the forum on the “Blacks just as my desires?” page?
I repeat, I don't want to change your mind, and you have to write your game the way you want...
But I would simply like to know what happens to Mila's desire to have sex with a black man?
Up to this point, Cheating and Sharing were rightly on the same path... but if I choose sharing, do I also choose to kill Dick? He is the first to contact Mila and there is no warning in the choice;
It should say, “Warning: if you choose the Sharing path, Dick dies in an accident while training for a boxing match.”

In my opinion, this makes the story meaningless... because Dick isn't dead and could come back if Mila, in a moment of dissatisfaction caused by always going to Bob's for her desire to be submissive, one day wanted to check the messages on the forum she joined at the beginning... this is up the the writing skill that you habe for sure.

I think I've given you a detailed summary of my opinion... and frankly, I don't see any problem with allowing a player to have both the Sharing and Cheating paths at the same time.
And I don't see any meaningless in Mila wanting to go back to the first day when Dick makes her take her clothes off while chatting with her during her exploration... I think it's a mess that the character who appears first in her life choice makes her desire to have sex with black men disappear forever... sorry, but I find that a racist choice!

Dick is the first "antagonist" that Mila meets by her own choice without the player being able to prevent it.

Thanks to be interested in my opinion

 

[repgarent]

I really never played The Witcher" game I also tryed to search for download... is this game in F95?
please if you have the link I will be happy to play... and i think with the addiction info you gave me it will be easy for me to find this masterpiece that obviously is inspiring you

I'm pretty sure The Witcher isn't on F95... Just Google it — it's probably one of the most famous games of the last decade.

Why is it that when choosing the sharing route, Mila is never tempted to check the forum on the “Blacks just as my desires?” page?
I repeat, I don't want to change your mind, and you have to write your game the way you want...
But I would simply like to know what happens to Mila's desire to have sex with a black man?

I don't remember her having a particular desire for black men in the game. Rather, it was a desire to break the monotony of her (sex)life. The fact that Dick is black doesn't change much.

Up to this point, Cheating and Sharing were rightly on the same path... but if I choose sharing, do I also choose to kill Dick? He is the first to contact Mila and there is no warning in the choice;
It should say, “Warning: if you choose the Sharing path, Dick dies in an accident while training for a boxing match.”

Like in real life, choices matter. She chose to stop chatting with Dick, so he lost interest in her. He doesn’t “die”; he’s just not part of Mila’s story anymore.

I agree with aDDont . If you want to make choices without any consequences, you’re not looking for a game, but for a book or a movie. Maybe a kinetic novel would suit you better.


For my opinion on this game, I found it refreshing to see real changes between routes, not the usual “I see this scene if I have X points in X characteristic, otherwise I don't see it” I’m just disappointed by the quality of some scenes — sometimes it’s ultra-realistic and lasts for a pretty long sequence, other times it’s more drawn, or just a loop like in many other games. I hope the dev focuses on scene quality in the future rather than quantity, though I suppose it’s necessary to move faster.

And please, I beg you, don’t mix NTR and NTS as some suggest — they’re not compatible. In fact, they’re opposites. In reality, if you sleep with a woman in a NTS relationship, you could probably share a beer with her man afterward. Same situation, but NTR? He'll probably kill you.

 

[Joshy92]

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I love this scene. A woman who talks dirty like this really turns me on.

 

[Deleted Member 69]

I love this scene. A woman who talks dirty like this really turns me on.

...And doing as much at the mic, no less

 

[88stanford88]

I don't remember her having a particular desire for black men in the game. Rather, it was a desire to break the monotony of her (sex)life. The fact that Dick is black doesn't change much.

I am referring to the script.rpy file, which you can easily find in the game folder.

    #Intro
    Mila "How long ago did we meet? {w}Back in school, fifteen years ago."
    Mila "Remembering those times is so pleasant... {w}Everything was so exciting and vibrant back then."
    Mila "My life with Paul started like a fairytale that I always dreamed of living."
    Mila "\“They lived happily ever after\” - a story I dreamed of as a child. {w}My prince on a white horse gave me happiness."
    Mila "My life was full of fun and joy. {w}And it seemed like everything was just perfect. {w}Paul really is a prince. {w}He's handsome, smart, and can take care of me."
    Mila  "But something has changed recently. {w}Everything is so good and sweet that there's nothing to gossip about with my friends. {w}Everything is so good... {w}That is the only thought that remains in my head..."
    Mila "Happiness...{w} is boring."
    Mila "Not that I want any drama or trouble... {w}But this level of care and love that Paul gives me... {w}This trust he shows me... {w}Makes me want...{w} things..."

This is the perfect start for a NTR story focused on a female MC
Let's jump to the point where Mila tells us her most hidden thoughts... how you see everything happening before the player can choose the path.

#Before choices chapter

    Mila "I jumped, coming out of my thoughts."
    Paul "How are you, sunshine?"
    Mila "..."
    show mila camisole_and_shorts_irritated
    Mila"Haaaa..."
    show mila camisole_and_shorts_sad_looking_aside
    Mila "I don't want to answer. If I tell the truth, he'll start squawking and whining.{w}
  He'll probably suggest me to see a therapist."
    Mila"I don't want to solve my problems.{w} I don't want to solve anything at all."
    Mila "My interests are drifting further and further away from normal."
    Mila "At first, I read romance novels and imagined myself as the heroine, caught up in a whirlwind of events."
    Mila "But over time, the stories that interested me became more and more twisted and erotic."
    Mila"Then I read a famous fanfic and tried to imagine myself as a submissive.{w} A slave."
    Mila"And this idea fascinated me so much that I registered on a dating site for like-minded people."
    Mila"It turned out there were many like me.
{w} It was harder to find someone who could and knew how to dominate than those who wanted to submit."
    Paul "Are you busy?
    Mila "I never dared to tell Paul about this. Our sex life was sickly vanilla."
    Mila "He didn't want to experiment, and I was afraid to show him the wrong side of me,
                the one he married. Afraid of seeming perverted."
    Mila"How do I tell him about this?"
    Mila"Especially because he is always busy...
    Paul "I'll be working late today."
    Mila "*Sigh*"

As soon as Mila stops responding to her husband's messages... this is when she talks about revealing her true self in a forum with pages, black is just as my desire.
Please read well the first line of the script...
The whole chat in the introduction is already like as games in the new style of NTR phone chat

    Mila "So that's why I opened up my true self \"there\". On a forum with pages, black just as my desires."
    Dick "Write your measurements and weight."
    show mila camisole_and_shorts_irritated_2
    Mila "That was the first thing
   Dick wrote to me. No \"hello\", no \"what's your name\", no \"what are you looking for on this site\"."
    Mila "I don't know what made me answer this arrogant and impudent message. But something in his tone made me answer."
    Dick "Why?"
    Dick "I want to know."
    Dick "And I want a million dollars and a helicopter."
    Dick "You won't get them on this site."
    Dick "No?"
    Dick"No. And you came here not for that."
    Mila "Something hit my heart. I stared at the screen and waited. Waited for him to say what I didn't want to hear."
    Dick "You came here because you want someone to see the real you."
    Mila "My heart was pounding like crazy.
A stranger on the other side of the screen knew more about me than my husband, who had known me for over ten years."
    Dick "I want to know. I want to see you. The real you. In all your beauty and ugliness, dirtiness and purity."
    Mila "..."

Mila is saying that she has joined a forum with pages discussing girls' desire to have sex with black men, and... up to this point, the player has not made any choices... it's not my fault if players skip the dialogue to get to the sex scenes quickly... but it's only by reading the dialogue that you understand the consistency of the female protagonist's desires.

The player makes choices for the protagonist (this is the basis of every game) and here Mila has clearly stated her desire to have sex with a black man... so as a player, I have to indulge Mila's primary desire...

But if the first important choice is between sharing or cheating, both of these paths must indulge Mila's first desire... and this desire of hers has a name. Mila wants Dick!!!

The inconsistency lies in the fact that the sharing path is with Bob... wait, who is Bob? Mila wants Dick, and the Sharing path takes away the BBC she wanted?
What is the point of an introduction if not to give the protagonist the opportunity to present her true and most hidden desires to the player?
Okay, her husband prefers Bob, but Mila could occasionally visit the forum of her "black" dreams... and instead, what does she do? She obeys the wishes of her husband, whom she seems unable to tolerate since the introduction.

If you read the introduction, Mila is tired of her vanilla marriage to Paul, and the first contact she agrees to talk to after talking to her husband is a black man named Dick... it doesn't take long to figure out that he's a BBC, right?

This is how i read the script of this game.
I believe that the author made the mistake of listening to some racist fans who didn't want to share Mila with a black man, ruining the perfect plot he had written in the introduction... but I repeat, NTR and NTS are compatible narrative styles that can remain on a single path.

 

[Sladixom]

"On a forum with pages, black just as my desires."

Did you really think it means she desires to have sex with black men?
It’s a mistake to read 'black' literally here. The dark theme of the forum's pages represent her moral ambiguity. The darkness is moral, not racial, as a reflection of Mila’s inner turmoil. The forum’s visual design mirrors that psychological state.

I thought you were a fan of good writing. But I guess we all approach art with our own biases.

 

[Sladixom]

I agree that the game is not realistic.
Mila has a mother, and mothers call their daughters on a regular basis.
What's missing is a path that allows Mila's mom to seduce and have sex with Paul. Naturally, when Mila's mom will see her well endowed neighbor, she will ask him to join as well.
I don't want to change your mind, and you have to write your game the way you want...
But I would simply like to know what happens to Mila's mom's desire to have sex with Paul?
It should say, “Warning: if you choose the Sharing path, Mila's mom dies in an accident while training for an anal gaping match.”
As long as you don't create the path that I want, the game is bad and I'll keep explaining it with long meaningless posts.
Maybe in a few years, when there is an evolution in the main paths, I might change my mind...

 

[TheresiaW]

I'm surprised that so many posts are suddenly asking whether the story is realistic. Fortunately, it isn't.

(Porn) stories are meant to stimulate and cater the imagination, not to simulate real life one-to-one.

The same applies to the question of whether Mila should only have "one" personality, or whether it's realistic for Mila to adapt according to the chosen path.

There are story-driven games where it makes sense to have only one overarching narrative and for the decisions made to be aligned with it.

But in the case of MilaAI, I think it's right that Mila adapts to the decisions made in the game and the routes taken. Otherwise, there would be so many dead ends where the game would come to a halt. For example, you prefer the BBC route and take it, only to find out that Mila doesn't like it and suddenly that route is over. That would be awful.

My understanding of the MilaAI concept is that it caters to the player's desired fantasy, rather than restricting the player to moving only along the main route. And I think that's a good thing.
For example, those who like BBC can go this route, but those who don't can easily go another route and still enjoy a great game instead of being forced to watch BBC.
The beauty of this game is that there are so many different paths, catering to a variety of sexual preferences.

 

[88stanford88]

A plot must be coherent IMO, and I have already mentioned a game Succubus Contract that, although unrealistic, has a coherent plot. Otherwise, it just becomes a comedy of episodes unrelated to what the protagonist says she want and desire when introduced herself to the player.

Of course, this is just my opinion, but the fact that my opinion has generated so many posts might suggest that I've touched a raw nerve... I apologize if I've disturbed you.

You should just ignore me, and the thread will stop sending so many notifications.

 

[88stanford88]

Just for trying to change the subject.... Mila is very cute and i love her

 

[repgarent]

It’s a mistake to read 'black' literally here. The dark theme of the forum's pages represent her moral ambiguity. The darkness is moral, not racial, as a reflection of Mila’s inner turmoil. The forum’s visual design mirrors that psychological state.

I thought it was just the name of the site when I read this. Thanks for the explanation! I'm French, I sometimes miss some subtleties of Shakespeare's language.

 

[repgarent]

Just for trying to change the subject.... Mila is very cute and i love her

We all agree . Did you finally find The Witcher?

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[Thisguy01]

omg here we go again...

 

[oykuwifey]

Really nice game

 

[Saerwen]

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I love this scene. A woman who talks dirty like this really turns me on.

Agreed. I see what aDDont did there. Naughty, naughty dev. Remembered that the best porn for women is watching them at the gym working out. Mila have a taste of muscled sweaty guys. O M G, panties ruined!