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Heh, it’s funny how much our opinions can vary sometimes. In my head, Law School doesn't even come close to NGB, - not necessarily in terms of raw production quality, but definitely in terms of pure joy I get from playing it. I only played Law School once (one major playthrough) and haven't even gone back to redo my saves after '"the changes" in S1. There are certain aspects of that game that I find rather frustrating/annoying, and having Elsa around isn't enough to compensate for them.

At the same time, - I’ve played NGB 4 times from scratch already. I like pretty much everything about it: MC is actually decent (not a simp or an idiot), story is engaging (despite me usually hating college setups), and the visuals are solid (not my priority anyway). Most importantly, it has maximum player agency - no forced dates, no MC suddenly drooling over a girl, and no far-fetched drama just for the sake of it. The only negative I can think of is that main menu soundtrack, it's painful to listen to.

I haven't played NSL yet (it's on my list), and Sickimtrack is firmly on my blacklist :). I don't really have any formal AVN ratings, but I keep my favourites in my signature, and NGB definitely earned its spot there. I thiiiiink... it would be in my top-5 (I'm with Milton here).

Also, I'm 100% with you on Tegan - easily the best girl :cool:. Speaking of Tegan, I have a question for "booty experts" here - does her butt look a bit bigger than usual in this shot?
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Yeah it does. I still like Tegan, but Ava overtook her for my #1 spot in latest update.

I'm playing 11 paths (I know someone who's playing 14) and I don't mind playing it over and over, like you, I just enjoy it.

Damn, I feel like I'm not understanding something you guys understand o_O. Ch. 2 is an improvement over Ch. 1, so I'm probably not dropping it, but NGB will for sure stay really low on my rating list. Roughly, for me it's a game that scores many Cs and some Bs, but no As. Also, I think Ch. 1 was bad. Like, really, really bad. Like I told Anker, I'd drop the game right there if he wasn't such a big fan of it.
Also, I'm actually starting to have doubts over Tegan, she's proving to be a bit too wild for my tastes. I'm considering Bonnie instead now.
Life would very boring if people didn't have different tastes. I think anker11 told me, NGB does BaDIK, better than BaDIK. Something like that anyway, I hope I'm not misquoting him.
 

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Damn, I feel like I'm not understanding something you guys understand o_O. Ch. 2 is an improvement over Ch. 1, so I'm probably not dropping it, but NGB will for sure stay really low on my rating list. Roughly, for me it's a game that scores many Cs and some Bs, but no As. Also, I think Ch. 1 was bad. Like, really, really bad. Like I told Anker, I'd drop the game right there if he wasn't such a big fan of it.
Also, I'm actually starting to have doubts over Tegan, she's proving to be a bit too wild for my tastes. I'm considering Bonnie instead now.
honestly just might be one of those cases where it's a game you can't get into as much as you expected. I have played Once in a Life time , Something to Write About: The Author , Game of Hearts I even started Projeckt Passion still need to go back to finish it but I either didn't like them or have a hard time to get into it or just couldn't.

While games like NGB the quality isn't as good as some others but I enjoyed it from the very first chapter and loved it id rank it higher than ones that the quality is better. Like I honestly like it more than Being a Dik , purely because of my enjoyment while playing it. Tho the mini games , free roam , and I find BAD one of the least replayable games because of how annoying it is plus I kind of do dislike the MC a bit doesn't help any haha. Honestly I only even like the LI from BAD but has alot of negatives when it comes to enjoyment for me.

I'm playing 11 paths (I know someone who's playing 14) and I don't mind playing it over and over, like you, I just enjoy it.
wonder if that is me I got 14 saves haha
 

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NGB does have one advantage over BaDIK - no fucking Quinn! :ROFLMAO:
Still need to play the latest chapter but I will say as much as I hate Quinn I kind of like having a character like Quinn to spice things up. She is one of those character I hate but like having them in the story and makes some scenes fun to see. But I wonder if that is gonna change whenever I do play the latest update for it.

PS : I just realized the last chapter came out almost a year ago and I still on S1 on my replay lol
 

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I'm 100% certain it wasn't me but I've also got 14 or 15 saves :)
My saves are such a mess, don't know which is who's, I think I will be going with the flow for now hoping Tegan, Rachel and Ava are there :KEK:. I know that Tegan and Ava are already mutually exclcusive, we get there when we get there hahah
Heh, it’s funny how much our opinions can vary sometimes. In my head, Law School doesn't even come close to NGB, - not necessarily in terms of raw production quality, but definitely in terms of pure joy I get from playing it. I only played Law School once (one major playthrough) and haven't even gone back to redo my saves after '"the changes" in S1. There are certain aspects of that game that I find rather frustrating/annoying, and having Elsa around isn't enough to compensate for them.

At the same time, - I’ve played NGB 4 times from scratch already. I like pretty much everything about it: MC is actually decent (not a simp or an idiot), story is engaging (despite me usually hating college setups), and the visuals are solid (not my priority anyway). Most importantly, it has maximum player agency - no forced dates, no MC suddenly drooling over a girl, and no far-fetched drama just for the sake of it. The only negative I can think of is that main menu soundtrack, it's painful to listen to.

I haven't played NSL yet (it's on my list), and Sickimtrack is firmly on my blacklist :). I don't really have any formal AVN ratings, but I keep my favourites in my signature, and NGB definitely earned its spot there. I thiiiiink... it would be in my top-5 (I'm with Milton here).

Also, I'm 100% with you on Tegan - easily the best girl :cool:. Speaking of Tegan, I have a question for "booty experts" here - does her butt look a bit bigger than usual in this shot?
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It does look bigger than usual. Fan art?
 

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My saves are such a mess, don't know which is who's, I think I will be going with the flow for now hoping Tegan, Rachel and Ava are there :KEK:. I know that Tegan and Ava are already mutually exclcusive, we get there when we get there hahah
My main save I have no idea who's path im on I forgot im probably gonna be a scumbag save at some point
 
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My saves are such a mess, don't know which is who's, I think I will be going with the flow for now hoping Tegan, Rachel and Ava are there :KEK:. I know that Tegan and Ava are already mutually exclcusive, we get there when we get there hahah
I was in a similar situation yesterday: I've downloaded the latest version, booted up the game, checked my saves and thought to myself "what the hell is going on here ?! when was the last time I've played this" :ROFLMAO: Then I've decided to do a fresh start and go with my usual pattern of one girl per save slot.
 

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I'm 100% certain it wasn't me but I've also got 14 or 15 saves :)
I only have the 8 MG paths, a Chloe path (for the drama), a SG path (with just the SG), and a testing path (that jumps all over the place). I've left all the SG together for now (they've just FWB), until I see who is getting endings or not.

The guy I was talking about has set up separate paths for the SG.

 
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Still need to play the latest chapter but I will say as much as I hate Quinn I kind of like having a character like Quinn to spice things up. She is one of those character I hate but like having them in the story and makes some scenes fun to see. But I wonder if that is gonna change whenever I do play the latest update for it.

PS : I just realized the last chapter came out almost a year ago and I still on S1 on my replay lol
I haven't played S3, waiting for it on steam, I heard that Nicole (who is my 2nd fav) might actually get her route / ending.

Yeah it does. I still like Tegan, but Ava overtook her for my #1 spot in latest update.

I'm playing 11 paths (I know someone who's playing 14) and I don't mind playing it over and over, like you, I just enjoy it.
Hmm, yeah, 11 in total - I have these:
8 (1 for each main girl)
1 for a jerk path (fucking Chloe)
1 (man whore - as many MGs and SGs as possible)
1 (only SGs)

It does look bigger than usual. Fan art?
Nope, Cicada made. He thought smth was wrong too and checked it, it's just a perspective and the fact her left leg is lifted up and forward a bit.
 

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I haven't played S3, waiting for it on steam, I heard that Nicole (who is my 2nd fav) might actually get her route / ending.
O really I am excited for that then cause honestly she is high on my list. maybe either tied with Maya for 3rd or 4th. Zoey and Sage are the only others the I like more.
 

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I haven't played S3, waiting for it on steam, I heard that Nicole (who is my 2nd fav) might actually get her route / ending.
As you can see in my sig, I'm with you on Nicole. Judging by what was in S3 so far (and without spoiling anything) I would be shocked if she didn't get at least a somewhat meaningful ending.

On the topic of "which college game does it better"... I'll take a page from Geralt's (from The Witcher) book and try to go the neutral route. I think each of them - BaDIK, Law School, Not Going Back, No Such Luck - does something good, in their own way, and I enjoyed each of them very much, albeit probably in different ways. Hell, BaDIK is my favourite AVN of all time, LS and NGB are in my Top 25 and NSL is very close to being in it.

One particular thing I strongly agree with Milton on - NGB's MC is definitely one of the better ones.
 
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O really I am excited for that then cause honestly she is high on my list. maybe either tied with Maya for 3rd or 4th. Zoey and Sage are the only others the I like more.
Well, it’s been a while, but my top 5 would be: Sage => Nicole => Lily => Bianca => Bella.

Don’t ask me why Bianca is there. I know she is not a LI and we only got a few brief scenes with her in S2. I just find her extremely attractive and got a good vibe from her in general (just a feeling, call it a hunch). In S3, as far as I know, we can only get content with her if we're on either Bella or Jill path. I'm thankful for Bella option, cause I don't even have a save for Jill, I can't stand her. As for Zoey, haven't met her yet obviously, but it’d probably a NO from me, she’s a childhood friend, - not my favourite trope.
 
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Well, it’s been a while, but my top 5 would be: Sage => Nicole => Lily => Bianca => Bella.

Don’t ask me why Bianca is there. I know she is not a LI and we only got a few brief scenes with her in S2. I just find her extremely attractive and got a good vibe from her in general (just a feeling, call it a hunch). In S3, as far as I know, we can only get content with her if we're on either Bella or Jill path. I'm thankful for Bella option, cause I don't even have a save for Jill, I can't stand her. As for Zoey, haven't met her yet obviously, but it’d probably a NO from me, she’s a childhood friend, - not my favourite trope.
Oh wow, our top 5's are almost identical with Zoey taking fourth place for me.

Once again, I'm not going to spoil anything from S3 but it seems like Bianca might also get a path in the future (or at least a partial one).
 
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Well, it’s been a while, but my top 5 would be: Sage => Nicole => Lily => Bianca => Bella.

Don’t ask me why Bianca is there. I know she is not a LI and we only got a few brief scenes with her in S2. I just find her extremely attractive and got a good vibe from her in general (just a feeling, call it a hunch). In S3, as far as I know, we can only get content with her if we're on either Bella or Jill path. I'm thankful for Bella option, cause I don't even have a save for Jill, I can't stand her. As for Zoey, haven't met her yet obviously, but it’d probably a NO from me, she’s a childhood friend, - not my favourite trope.
haha we are the complete opposite when it comes to Jill and Bella I love Jill can't stand Bella. Bella is the reason why I tend to have a negative opinion of LI in other games that are teachers or work for a school if the MC is a student. At the very least im more picky and hesitant because of Bella. I played her path in S2 yet to play it in S3 I could barley stand it as I found it to damn awkward and cringey for me.
 

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Well, it’s been a while, but my top 5 would be: Sage => Nicole => Lily => Bianca => Bella.

Don’t ask me why Bianca is there. I know she is not a LI and we only got a few brief scenes with her in S2. I just find her extremely attractive and got a good vibe from her in general (just a feeling, call it a hunch). In S3, as far as I know, we can only get content with her if we're on either Bella or Jill path. I'm thankful for Bella option, cause I don't even have a save for Jill, I can't stand her. As for Zoey, haven't met her yet obviously, but it’d probably a NO from me, she’s a childhood friend, - not my favourite trope.
Oh wow, our top 5's are almost identical with Zoey taking fourth place for me.

Once again, I'm not going to spoil anything from S3 but it seems like Bianca might also get a path in the future (or at least a partial one).
haha we are the complete opposite when it comes to Jill and Bella I love Jill can't stand Bella. Bella is the reason why I tend to have a negative opinion of LI in other games that are teachers or work for a school if the MC is a student. At the very least im more picky and hesitant because of Bella. I played her path in S2 yet to play it in S3 I could barley stand it as I found it to damn awkward and cringey for me.
Aaaand so the thread is hijacked by BaDIK LIs, why am I not surprised? :ROFLMAO:

In BaDIK, I like all the original MGs, with Jill being my choice (would really prefer Josy and Maya as solo options though), while the vast majority of SGs just don't do it for me, Jade and Camila being the only ones I have any interest in.
 
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As you can see in my sig, I'm with you on Nicole. Judging by what was in S3 so far (and without spoiling anything) I would be shocked if she didn't get at least a somewhat meaningful ending.
I admit, after spending so much time on this forum, banners in SIGs have become a bit of a blind zone for me, heheh. But now that you mention it, I see - we've got another man of culture here :cool:
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On the topic of "which college game does it better"... I'll take a page from Geralt's (from The Witcher) book and try to go the neutral route. I think each of them - BaDIK, Law School, Not Going Back, No Such Luck - does something good, in their own way, and I enjoyed each of them very much, albeit probably in different ways. Hell, BaDIK is my favourite AVN of all time, LS and NGB are in my Top 25 and NSL is very close to being in it.

One particular thing I strongly agree with Milton on - NGB's MC is definitely one of the better ones.
Would be another wall of text from me, I have time, so why not :). Bear with me.

Game ratings discussion actually made me think about how I evaluate and categorise AVNs.

I's say I use term "Theme" as my primary filter to understand the setup and the direction story will likely take. It helps me predict how tags will be handled. Few rough examples: "College + Harem" - instant blacklist, however, "Dystopian + Harem" is something I’d try, "College + Mind control" - black list, while"Sci-fi + Mind control" - I might try. There're exceptions of course.

I have a certain "mandatory" themes that I value above others - Sci-Fi, Dystopian, Undercover/Detective, Cyberpunk, and Vampires (which I separate from general Fantasy). To me, Sci-Fi is essentially more interesting, whereas a College setting starts at a disadvantage cause it’s a more "boring" baseline from my perspective. For a college game to work for me, it has to reach a much higher standards of quality to compensate for this trope "heavy" setting. Most games simply fail to reach that bar, though whether my standards are too high is purely subjective.

When it comes to my final verdict, I separate "theme" from "quality". For me, "quality" is not solely about the technical renders or writing (writing matters though, obviously), it’s about the amount of joy I get while playing it. By "joy" I mean emotional aspect. I want the game to make me feel something - whether that’s excitement (hype to be precise), sadness, anger, or even annoyance. There needs to be a balance of emotions that keeps me immersed in that universe though, if the game constantly makes me feel annoyed that's not good, I have enough burdens in my real life, I don't need it in the game. Does it mean the game is bad though? - Not necessarily, it just means it's not for me.

So, the end goal for me is immersion and escapism - I play to get away from the real world and get immersed into another one. One more example - if I judged games strictly by their themes, I would have deleted Broken Promises from my signature a long time ago, cause as a "cop/undercover" game, it’s technically not very good (mildly saying). Yet, the emotional experience keeps it there. (It only came to my mind cause I finished replaying it yesterday)

Anyway, to put it simply, - "theme" gets me through the door, but emotional aspect (aka joy) is what determines if the game stays on my top list.

Going bak to Law School, I already ranted a bit before (you can read it here), but to summarise what spoiled my experience the most:
1) silly MC - I think Milton has been ranting for both of us in that regard, starting with the silly kiss blackmail and ending with the basketball stealing "incident".
2) to much far fetched drama for my taste.

This is why it’s lower on my list. Where Law School failed, NGB succeeded. That said, I still have it on Steam and think it's a decent game (for a college game, anyway).

Hell, BaDIK is my favourite AVN of all time, LS and NGB are in my Top 25 and NSL is very close to being in it.
I agree, Lost Solace is a great game :rolleyes::sneaky:.

One particular thing I strongly agree with Milton on - NGB's MC is definitely one of the better ones.
Heh, that reminded me of that MC competition posted on Reddit: - .
I’m definitely not judging them based on their attractiveness, but looking at them overall - character wise - I’d say my top 3 are:
1) Valentine (Unbroken)
2) William (WIAB)
3) Rockford (Leaving DNA)

Oh wow, our top 5's are almost identical with Zoey taking fourth place for me.

Once again, I'm not going to spoil anything from S3 but it seems like Bianca might also get a path in the future (or at least a partial one).
I don't mind spoilers, so feel free to write whatever you want - just maybe put it in spoiler tags for the sake of other people here.

Good to know though. Damn, I'd be on cloud 9 if we could actually date Bianca. The real question is - at what cost? Considering we only get to know her if we're on the Bella or Jill paths, I guess I'll just have to take whatever I can get heheh.
 
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Aaaand so the thread is hijacked by BaDIK LIs, why am I not surprised? :ROFLMAO:
Oops, Sorry Milton ! :oops: but at the same time... I think you're already used to the fact that this thread sometimes gets hijacked :ROFLMAO:
I admit, after spending so much time on this forum, banners in SIGs have become a bit of a blind zone for me, heheh. But now that you mention it, I see - we've got another man of culture here :cool:
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Anyway, to put it simply, - "theme" gets me through the door, but emotional aspect (joy) is what determines if the game stays on my top list.
I think we are very similar in this aspect. There are certain characteristics of a game (any type, doesn't matter if we're talking about AVNs or AAA games) that draw me in more than others but the amount of emotional impact or, simply put, fun I get from playing is what makes me stick with it. It doesn't matter how big of a technical marvel it is (I grew up in the 90s playing games on GameBoy and SNES, I don't need my games to look extra good), if it feels like a chore to play I'm going to pass.
I agree, Lost Solace is a great game :rolleyes::sneaky:.
Agreed! Lost Solace is my current number 18 and I'm sure it'll go higher as it gets developed further ;):sneaky:
Heh, that reminded me of that MC competition posted on Reddit: - .
I’m definitely not judging them based on their attractiveness, but looking at them overall - character wise - I’d say my top 3 are:
1) Valentine (Unbroken)
2) William (WIAB)
3) Rockford (Leaving DNA)
I've never really thought about it but I'd say that Valentine and Rockford are probably also up there for me. What is WIAB ?
I don't mind spoilers, so feel free to write whatever you want - just maybe put it in spoiler tags for the sake of other people here.

Good to know though. Damn, I'd be on cloud 9 if we could actually date Bianca. The real question is - at what cost? Considering we only get to know her if we're on the Bella or Jill paths, I guess I'll just have to take whatever I can get heheh.
It seems that the main way to Bianca's panties (or even her heart) is being on Jill's path and will lead to cheating on her. Since you can't stand Jill that shouldn't be a big problem for you :p

As for Nicole... There are a few notable interactions so far in S3: two hot scenes with her and Lily in episode 9 (at the Halloween party and right after it) and a really nice little date at her apartment in Episode 10. The only downside is that you have to choose between her and Lily so be sure to have separate saves.
 
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I have a certain "mandatory" themes that I value above others - Sci-Fi, Dystopian, Undercover/Detective, Cyberpunk, and Vampires (which I separate from general Fantasy). To me, Sci-Fi is essentially more interesting, whereas a College setting starts at a disadvantage cause it’s a more "boring" baseline from my perspective. For a college game to work for me, it has to reach a much higher standards of quality to compensate for this trope "heavy" setting. Most games simply fail to reach that bar, though whether my standards are too high is purely subjective.
It's the other way around for me, I'm much harder to please with fantasy or sci-fi settings than contemporary. The reason is that to immerse, I really need to understand where I am and what's going on. Contemporary doesn't need that, as I live in it, everything is clear to me from the first render. However, sci-fi and fantasy worlds are alien to me, so to feel like I'm really there, I need a lot of new knowledge, more details, and characters acting 'realistically' so I believe it's actually going on, and can immerse. Echoes of 2990 soundly failed at that not long ago, for example. Its overly porny designs gave me the impression of 'eh, this can't be real, it's some thematic cosplay party, I'm not interested'.
My favourite AVN setting is ' The adult man and his job'. Its rarer than College and has more variety, yet it's still contemporary and doesn't need much explanation.

Going bak to Law School, I already ranted a bit before (you can read it here), but to summarise what spoiled my experience the most:
1) silly MC - I think Milton has been ranting for both of us in that regard, starting with the silly kiss blackmail and ending with the basketball stealing "incident".
I don't think he's silly, he's actually fairly intelligent. I would call him naive though, especially with how he thinks a lawyer is all about protecting the innocent. Just think of him like a male Jill who isn't rich or shy.

I've never really thought about it but I'd say that Valentine and Rockford are probably also up there for me.
Valentine is one of the best MCs character-wise, but his model? I actually dislike it. I feel like his head is too small for his body, and the complete lack of hair makes it even more prominent.
 

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My favourite AVN setting is ' The adult man and his job'. Its rarer than College and has more variety, yet it's still contemporary and doesn't need much explanation.
It's the same for me. I'm almost 40 so it's much easier to relate to MCs from f.e. Race of Life or The Missing Part than to all those 20 y.o. going to college. Especially since college in Poland is a whole different experience than in the U.S. :LOL:
Valentine is one of the best MCs character-wise, but his model? I actually dislike it. I feel like his head is too small for his body, and the complete lack of hair makes it even more prominent.
Is it ? :unsure: I'd need to look at some screenshots because I never got that feeling while playing the game.
 
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