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Phenir

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Amazing that some people would try to argue that this game is not on the text-heavy, image-light side, when most of the scenes are exclusively text with only a minority having CGs. What kind of a person white-knights to that insane degree? Pick a random VN, and you're virtually guaranteed to have many, many more pictures and much less text.
Literally no one said it wasn't text heavy.
Not really. Most VNs just use the same still over and over. They have more unique images, but fewer art assets because of that. Threshold commissioning the art in pieces so he can mix and match microexpressions is one of my favorite things about MGD. It makes it feel a lot more dynamic.

In a VN, I often spend multiple minutes staring at the same image as it gives line after line. In MGD, I often see little changes matching what is happening in the text. And I love that.

As an aside, saying anyone who disagrees with your opinion is white knighting is pure idiocy. Get off the high horse.
What vns are you playing these days? Basically any game I've seen that uses 2d art behind a textbox to exposit at least has a few facial expressions.
 

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So how do either of those make the claim that the game isn't text heavy? The first one just says it is relatively less text heavy compared to other renpy games. A game can still be text heavy while having less text than other games. The second one doesn't make any claim at all about how much text it has.
 
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Master of Puppets

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The first one just says it is relatively less text heavy compared to other renpy games.
Which is simply not true at all. The only games that are more text heavy are text only games, and those are almost exclusively HTML games, Renpy games tend to be the most picture heavy because of the way the engine is designed.
The second one doesn't make any claim at all about how much text it has.
Yes it does. Read between the lines; when someone responds to someone asking for less text with mockery about "just watch hentai", they are implicitly claiming that you couldn't have less text, which is ridiculous. It's silly to ask in a game's thread for games with less text, but it's just as silly to try and pretend that this game doesn't have a lot of it.
 
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Phenir

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Which is simply not true at all. The only games that are more text heavy are text only games, and those are almost exclusively HTML games, Renpy games tend to be the most picture heavy because of the way the engine is designed.
So you agree he wasn't saying the game is not text heavy and was instead comparing it to other games.
Yes it does. Read between the lines; when someone responds to someone asking for less text with mockery about "just watch hentai", they are implicitly claiming that you couldn't have less text, which is ridiculous. It's silly to ask in a game's thread for games with less text, but it's just as silly to try and pretend that this game doesn't have a lot of it.
No it doesn't. It says if you take the game out of porn games, all you have left is porn.

It just seems like you are looking for reason to start an argument. Which considering the recent pages in this thread isn't exactly surprising (not you specifically, just so you don't jump to more conclusions to get riled up about).
 
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Noah Neim

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Thank you for providing a perfect example of an irrational knee-jerk white knight. I didn't say I didn't like the game anywhere, and I didn't say that being text heavy was a bad thing. I've been a backer of the game on SubStar for ages in fact. But you are acting like it is a personal affront to you that someone accurately describes the game as being text based.
Angel's response was garbage but so it yours, it just isn't it.

For a long time, there were no CGs at all and many of the girls didn't even have sprites. I say again, the fact that anyone tries to deny that the game is heavily slanted towards text is insane.
A presence of Cg doesn't mean decreased amounts of text. All the cgs in mgd were just added onto pre existing scenes which remained the same length, they're visuals you're meanto to enjoy, but thresh or val aren't using them to crub text length so even if the game had more images it won't have less text.
Visuals obviously can be used to reduce text and improve pacing, but that's up to the writer themselves, it's not an absolute law.
Your reaction is also quite strange, im not quite sure what you think we're "defending" aside from angel being slightly riled up.

"Oh no! i must defend MGD from the utterly horrible and putrid label of a 'text game' :eek:"
I don't think anyone actually would give a fuck.

Which is simply not true at all. The only games that are more text heavy are text only games, and those are almost exclusively HTML games, Renpy games tend to be the most picture heavy because of the way the engine is designed.
You're making the claim for the sake of making it. I'm saying this as a guy who would beg for an opprotunity to shit on this game but i genuinely see no point to get worked up over. The general vibe im getting is you're implying the amount of text in mgd is too much and a bad thing, since you wouldn't say we're white knighting for being confused about someone wishing for less text which was a claim/complaing that's not made often.


Yeah it's a text based game, no shit, it's a renpy game, a visual novel engine, no shit it's text based.
but it's just as silly to try and pretend that this game doesn't have a lot of it.
Because it doesn't, the reason i made my claim is because compared to renpy's original intentions mgd has some gameplay elements. If, as you said, took any vn, and lets say played both mgd and a vn for 10 hours, you will spent 10 hours reading a vn, but you wont spend 10 hours reading mgd, some of it will be grinding, or trying to beat a certain enemy, all in all, for the play time you spend you will read far less than a vn of the same length, mgd's honestly lacking story is supplemented by its gameplay, repeatability of interactions, and gameplay elements.
And in total i say mgd is about 20 hours give or take in play time, if you took a vn of the same length the total amount of words wil be less.

It's not something to be upset over, which at bet 1 person did for some reason, nor is mgd comparatively to any vn with gameplay elements isn't the worst satan of all which requires you to *wretch* read :sick:



It just seems like you are looking for reason to start an argument. Which considering the recent pages in this thread isn't exactly surprising (not you specifically, just so you don't jump to more conclusions to get riled up about).
Yippe, i love arguments :BootyTime:
 

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Your reaction is also quite strange, im not quite sure what you think we're "defending" aside from angel being slightly riled up.
I wouldn't say I'm riled up (not by this specifically, I think this is a symptom of a larger problem best discussed in a more serious forum), just kinda SMH. But I historically have had issues getting my tenor across in text.
 

zaq147xsw

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This take is retarded.

Most eroge have way more images AND way more gameplay.

MGQ has many more images.
Karryn's Prison has more images.
Circle Teckua games have more images. All of them.
Ason games have more images.
ROBF series have more images.
The World A Robot Girl Dreams of series have more images.
And I can go on and on...

And not to rag on MGDs gameplay complexity, but most of those other games either match or surpass MGDs in gameplay complexity.

The other guy is stupid too, but thinking that a game with more of a focus on visuals is just an h-anime is a ludicrous take.
I know it was not your intention, but I ended up searching for those devs and liked some games, thanks for the unintentional recommendation : D
 

PraduitorulBun

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Supp!!! One question.

Are you suposed to not see a health bar or whatever is called for the enemy or am i just stupid? And flolow-up question, is tere a way to make it apear, be it a mod or hack...
 

magicandmadness

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Supp!!! One question.

Are you suposed to not see a health bar or whatever is called for the enemy or am i just stupid? And flolow-up question, is tere a way to make it apear, be it a mod or hack...
The Analyze spell, obtained from Elly is what you are looking for.

"Effect: Analyzes your target, allowing you to see their current Arousal, Spirit, stats, fetishes and vulnerabilities."

Arousal (and Spirit) is the equivalent of the health stat in the game.
 

PraduitorulBun

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Another question. Is there a place other than MGD wiki where i can get some working mods? Cuz the ones i want are no longer avaible there. Img to name a few...

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Throwitawau

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Another question. Is there a place other than MGD wiki where i can get some working mods? Cuz the ones i want are no longer avaible there. Img to name a few...

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nvm im a dumbass :skull:
heres the link to it, though. the said mods the user asked for are removed.
 

PraduitorulBun

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nvm im a dumbass :skull:
heres the link to it, though. the said mods the user asked for are removed.
That is the exact page i specified links dont work...

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Edit: If someone have this one ( ) to give me somehow id apreciate... Or a functional link to it.
 
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