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Pr0GamerJohnny

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BananaCreamGames

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And there were a few people on here that didn't like the scene either. And it wasn't the whole scene, it was because of the way Suzie was treated. You could have the confrontation without doing anything to Suzie.
The kiss before you get to decide if you want to attack or not will get removed, it was unneeded in retrospect. You'll only get that if you try to be a pacifist now.

Days after seen this scene, I'm still mad at that mf of Caleb, (well done BCG) ... And guess what? I appreciate BCG for doing something different to others soft developers by adding that scene. It's a NTR so it will (has to?) be NTR. Remember that fking Joffrey Baratheon how angry makes us some?.

I encourage BCG to not change too much of what he has in mind for the VN. And About adding NTR/Non-NTR routes... I prefer to not have too much routes, that allways results in slower updates, and more mind breaking for the Dev.

imo, i prefer the specific or short detours that define slightly the story, just like the options of Fight or calm Caleb, or inside the bakery store.
Glad to hear it. Stories need villains that piss you off IMO.
I'm of course not changing the course of the game at all, but small adjustments to keep the overall context consistent are needed sometimes, like the one I mentioned above :)

why didn't the author show us that scene behind the car, what were they doing there, you make a function so we can click on the mirror in the car and you see that scene from the policeman's side, but we didn't see the old lady say that his dick was sticking out after that
The not knowing was part of the fun, Anon's mind was running wild. At this point it's just potential content for a possible NTR route in the future.
 

Justaphase

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The kiss before you get to decide if you want to attack or not will get removed, it was unneeded in retrospect. You'll only get that if you try to be a pacifist now.


Glad to hear it. Stories need villains that piss you off IMO.
I'm of course not changing the course of the game at all, but small adjustments to keep the overall context consistent are needed sometimes, like the one I mentioned above :)


The not knowing was part of the fun, Anon's mind was running wild. At this point it's just potential content for a possible NTR route in the future.
I think that optional is generally the way to go. As much as I want to see Anon's fantasy of sharing Suzie become reality, I don't think that anything about it should be forced. One of the hottest things for me is that you can see how in love and horny they are for each other, and that they have a great sex life. Yet they are wanting to explore each other's sharing kinks.
I am only speaking for myself, others may enjoy something else. So as I said, it's usually better to make stuff optional IMO.
 

sagerock820

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I think that optional is generally the way to go. As much as I want to see Anon's fantasy of sharing Suzie become reality, I don't think that anything about it should be forced. One of the hottest things for me is that you can see how in love and horny they are for each other, and that they have a great sex life. Yet they are wanting to explore each other's sharing kinks.
I am only speaking for myself, others may enjoy something else. So as I said, it's usually better to make stuff optional IMO.
Totally agree. It will be impossible to please everyone. Having the options let people see the content they want to see.
 

rob_trowy_97

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The kiss before you get to decide if you want to attack
Man, don’t let whiners push you off course. I’d hate to see the game turn into a 'safe space' for insecure people who can’t handle a challenge.
Isn't the success of the release proof that you did everything right?

If you want to make changes, I urge you to do so only after completing the game or when you are absolutely sure you've made a mistake.
 

Oli3104

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Cara, não deixe que chorões te tirem do caminho. Eu odiaria ver o jogo se transformar em um "espaço seguro" para pessoas inseguras que não conseguem lidar com um desafio.
O sucesso do lançamento não é a prova de que você fez tudo certo?

Se você quiser fazer alterações, recomendo que faça isso somente após completar o jogo ou quando tiver certeza absoluta de que cometeu um erro.
[/CITAR] It really seems like they are trying to control the developer and that could be a problem
 

BananaCreamGames

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Totally agree. It will be impossible to please everyone. Having the options let people see the content they want to see.
Man, don’t let whiners push you off course. I’d hate to see the game turn into a 'safe space' for insecure people who can’t handle a challenge.
Isn't the success of the release proof that you did everything right?
If you want to make changes, I urge you to do so only after completing the game or when you are absolutely sure you've made a mistake.
Very much agree. Don't alter a thing. Giving in to the complainers and whiners will only ruin your story.
My dudes, relax.
It's literally a nothing burger. I just thought the narrative would flow better. It's really not that big of a deal, I was already debating it with myself when going back and looking at scenes to fix (skeeter scene is getting sfx), that guy I replied to about it just happened to mention it.

I replied to one of my supporters:
Hey <x>!
I honestly think the narrative would flow better if I remove the first kiss. The guy that wants to get humiliated by being passive, will get the forced kiss. While if you choose to be aggressive/protective, you have the option to completely avoid that.


No one is controlling me lol :D
 

sagerock820

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Man, don’t let whiners push you off course. I’d hate to see the game turn into a 'safe space' for insecure people who can’t handle a challenge.
Isn't the success of the release proof that you did everything right?

If you want to make changes, I urge you to do so only after completing the game or when you are absolutely sure you've made a mistake.
It's a minor change. No need to whine.
 

rob_trowy_97

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My dudes, relax.
It's literally a nothing burger. I just thought the narrative would flow better. It's really not that big of a deal, I was already debating it with myself when going back and looking at scenes to fix (skeeter scene is getting sfx), that guy I replied to about it just happened to mention it.

I replied to one of my supporters:
Hey <x>!
I honestly think the narrative would flow better if I remove the first kiss. The guy that wants to get humiliated by being passive, will get the forced kiss. While if you choose to be aggressive/protective, you have the option to completely avoid that.



No one is controlling me lol :D
I really hope you know what you're doing.
The scene isn’t that big of a deal, especially since I already got the impact.
However, here’s my perspective: the author released a new update that was a great success, as validated by the increase of the Patreon numbers. But after the game was leaked, there were some comments on a pirate forum that seemed to sway the author, leading to a decision to redo the update to cater to those opinions.

I really hope this isn’t influenced by a few people's views, especially since it's impossible to see the full picture based solely on their opinions.
If you’re considering changes for them, it raises concerns about your confidence in the direction you’re taking.

I suggest at least waiting for a couple of releases before redoing the scene.

PS. Once upon a time, there was a non-NTR game called Big Brother, featuring one of the most memorable antagonists in this genre. Even though the game itself wasn't that great, you sincerely hated Eric. The author had the courage to let Eric sleep with one of the love interests, and players could do nothing to prevent it. My point is that sometimes an author can make choices that the majority of the player base dislikes, but those decisions can turn out to be beneficial in the long run (I still hate him).
 

Joshy92

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I really hope you know what you're doing.
The scene isn’t that big of a deal, especially since I already got the impact.
However, here’s my perspective: the author released a new update that was a great success, as validated by the increase of the Patreon numbers. But after the game was leaked, there were some comments on a pirate forum that seemed to sway the author, leading to a decision to redo the update to cater to those opinions.

I really hope this isn’t influenced by a few people's views, especially since it's impossible to see the full picture based solely on their opinions.
If you’re considering changes for them, it raises concerns about your confidence in the direction you’re taking.

I suggest at least waiting for a couple of releases before redoing the scene.

PS. Once upon a time, there was a non-NTR game called Big Brother, featuring one of the most memorable antagonists in this genre. Even though the game itself wasn't that great, you sincerely hated Eric. The author had the courage to let Eric sleep with one of the love interests, and players could do nothing to prevent it. My point is that sometimes an author can make choices that the majority of the player base dislikes, but those decisions can turn out to be beneficial in the long run (I still hate him).
Every game increases subs when an update launches and BB has been dead for years so obviously Erik wasn't that much of a success.
 

sudolink

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Every game increases subs when an update launches and BB has been dead for years so obviously Erik wasn't that much of a success.
his supporters literally increased by nearly 3x though xD

If it’s a minor change, then why bother making it?
dev said just earlier because of the narrative.
i don't care if you change it BCG, it's fine. you know what's best for your game!
 

sagerock820

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If it’s a minor change, then why bother making it?
My dudes, relax.
It's literally a nothing burger. I just thought the narrative would flow better. It's really not that big of a deal, I was already debating it with myself when going back and looking at scenes to fix (skeeter scene is getting sfx), that guy I replied to about it just happened to mention it.
 
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rob_trowy_97

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If it’s a minor change, then why bother making it?
It wasn’t a sincere question; I was just pointing out the contradiction.
I mean, if you care enough to ask, and the author cares enough to make the change, then it’s obviously just a ‘minor’ tweak... right?
 

BananaCreamGames

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I really hope this isn’t influenced by a few people's views, especially since it's impossible to see the full picture based solely on their opinions.
If you’re considering changes for them, it raises concerns about your confidence in the direction you’re taking.
As I said, that one dude's opinion did not influence my decision.
Would be retarded to change content because of non-supporter complainers, and on the other hand not bend to a supporter or two who insist in DMs that Suzie should have drowned in black cock by now :D

I mean I see you're concerned that the game will go off the rails of what you expected it to be. But in any case don't sweat it, you'll be able to discern in future updates whether I'm being influenced or not, I guess.
Or not? Because you could attribute the decision you don't like to some outside force influencing me :unsure:

It wasn’t a sincere question; I was just pointing out the contradiction.
I mean, if you care enough to ask, and the author cares enough to make the change, then it’s obviously just a ‘minor’ tweak... right?
It's as impactful as me adding sfx to a previous scene, imo. Little tweaks.
I change things like this all the time during development, and no one knows...

Anyway, on a happier note, the halloween short update is coming out in 2days for supporters! :)
 

Joshy92

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As I said, that one dude's opinion did not influence my decision.
Would be retarded to change content because of non-supporter complainers, and on the other hand not bend to a supporter or two who insist in DMs that Suzie should have drowned in black cock by now :D

I mean I see you're concerned that the game will go off the rails of what you expected it to be. But in any case don't sweat it, you'll be able to discern in future updates whether I'm being influenced or not, I guess.
Or not? Because you could attribute the decision you don't like to some outside force influencing me :unsure:


It's as impactful as me adding sfx to a previous scene, imo. Little tweaks.
I change things like this all the time during development, and no one knows...

Anyway, on a happier note, the halloween short update is coming out in 2days for supporters! :)
That black cock part cracked me up lol.
 
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