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I don't know why Mia getting involved with his second father would mean the MC would lose her, I think they could fuck on a Beta Cuck ending of him being like the Elven Cook, that just stand back as his gf / wife get fucked around, why his second father in particular would mean losing her permanently? Again its not like he'd seem the sort of provide emotionally for Mia with love & care, which is I feel the only way anyone could really compete with the MC, which again considering her status is extremely unlikely to even be possible.

Also again screwing over the MC in a penultimate way would feel fundamentally counterproductive to the narrative, he was reborn in another reality, it wouldn't make sense for that to happen without him getting some minimal win at the end, I could imagine MAYBE the actual Succubus show up after Mia got too corrupted and the MC lose her to the monsters of the dungeon, but basically she got interested in the MC and make him something like the dungeon lord, becoming a sort of cuckquean for him and encouraging fucking all the females in the dungeon to corrupt him and embracing depravity himself. I guess that could be the 'Bad' ending to the final boss battle.

Frankly outside of the above 'Bad' Ending, I think the endings I mentioned previously are probably going to be the 3 other possible full story endings, one which is a NTS Beta Cuck ending as I mentioned, probably with some flavor text for the path it took to get there, either he sorta gotten broken down to it on the NTR path, or just turned willingly into a passive cuck on the NTS path. The other ending would be NTS Alpha Cuck ending, where either on the NTR path when they leave Mia feels bad and turn somewhat into a cuckquean that tries to drive the MC to fuck around in compensation for her own fucking around in the dungeon, possibly with a bit of it herself only with the MC's permission, while on the NTS path they are basically are in a open relationship and fuck around with possibly some limitations for the people either of them don't like. The last possibility would basically be what amount to a 'Vanilla' ending where on the NTR path the MC basically reclaim Mia a bit like I think they call it the Stag & Vixen, while on the NTS path they sorta just reclaim one another so to speak.

I don't really see any other ways the Dev could create an ending that would within the narrative make remotely sense. Maybe some further 'Bad' Endings in the Dungeon, but unlike the one I stated above things that happen during the story but are clearly not meant to be a real ending, but rather a 'what if they lost / failed' at any of the bosses or major hurdles.
i mean there are both ntr and nts routes if the dev gets to work on the nts side. i just hope its stag with swinging, he deserves to end up smashing that childhood friend even if shes into hard bodies. too many beta cuck VN's as it is.
 

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i mean there are both ntr and nts routes if the dev gets to work on the nts side. i just hope its stag with swinging, he deserves to end up smashing that childhood friend even if shes into hard bodies. too many beta cuck VN's as it is.
Well their is a NTR & NTS path, but that doesn't mean their has to be a NTR ending, since NTR ending always mean losing your LI, which mean losing Mia, like I said maybe for 'Bad' 'what if' endings it could work but not a proper ending to the story, considering I got a vibe that the story is meant to expand beyond finishing the dungeon, the closest to that would have to be like I said losing Mia at the final boss or something getting some suitable compensation in exchange, but I don't know how that would really let the narrative continue beyond the end of the dungeon.

As for a Beta Cuck ending, I am afraid that ending is pretty much assured, one of the ending will for sure be that, its literally the ending advertised as I said in a way by the Elven Cook, where he tells you to basically to just let your gf fuck around, its clear that ending is already one of those that is for sure going to exist, but considering the Dev has been talking about multiples paths in a way even on said NTR vs NTS paths, I expect at the end their is going to be a few final endings, so even if the Dev clearly favor NTR, I believe they'll still provide some palpable outcome for the likes of you and me.

However, as for the childhood friend, I have doubts, she seem pretty vain, unless the dungeon impart some pretty serious lesson in humility I don't see how its going to be possible to end up fucking her. Unless she somehow get so hornied up in the dungeon without anyone but the MC around to fuck and she finally decide to go for him, maybe ends up catching the feels for him too. But that would just about require Gordok to be gone for some reason for a significant amount of time, like a permanant death, personally I wouldn't miss him, he feels like a creep, clearly the Alpha Chad meant to be the main competition for the LIs in the dungeon, afterward I assume the Merc Leader will be the new one, since Mia will owe him a favor for the info on the witches and I suspect the price is meant to be paid in sex, I assume depending on what path you are on once outside of the dungeon might cause that outcome to differ.

On the Beta Cuck path she'll go for it, on the Alpha Cuck path it might be an option for either that or a different alternative to it, as for if their is anything akin to a 'Vanilla' path like I theorized could happen post dungeon it will likely require that alternative instead. At this point I have come up pretty much with the assumption that at the end of the dungeon we'll decide one of those three paths on both the NTR or NTS path for the dungeon, leading to having some flavor for each of those post dungeon paths depending on what path you took in the dungeon. Likely culminating with whatever decisions you take post dungeons to the flavor for each paths at the final endings.
 
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Well their is a NTR & NTS path, but that doesn't mean their has to be a NTR ending, since NTR ending always mean losing your LI, which mean losing Mia, like I said maybe for 'Bad' 'what if' endings it could work but not a proper ending to the story, considering I got a vibe that the story is meant to expand beyond finishing the dungeon, the closest to that would have to be like I said losing Mia at the final boss or something getting some suitable compensation in exchange, but I don't know how that would really let the narrative continue beyond the end of the dungeon.

As for a Beta Cuck ending, I am afraid that ending is pretty much assured, one of the ending will for sure be that, its literally the ending advertised as I said in a way by the Elven Cook, where he tells you to basically to just let your gf fuck around, its clear that ending is already one of those that is for sure going to exist, but considering the Dev has been talking about multiples paths in a way even on said NTR vs NTS paths, I expect at the end their is going to be a few final endings, so even if the Dev clearly favor NTR, I believe they'll still provide some palpable outcome for the likes of you and me.

However, as for the childhood friend, I have doubts, she seem pretty vain, unless the dungeon impart some pretty serious lesson in humility I don't see how its going to be possible to end up fucking her. Unless she somehow get so hornied up in the dungeon without anyone but the MC around to fuck and she finally decide to go for him, maybe ends up catching the feels for him too. But that would just about require Gordok to be gone for some reason for a significant amount of time, like a permanant death, personally I wouldn't miss him, he feels like a creep, clearly the Alpha Chad meant to be the main competition for the LIs in the dungeon, afterward I assume the Merc Leader will be the new one, since Mia will owe him a favor for the info on the witches and I suspect the price is meant to be paid in sex, I assume depending on what path you are on once outside of the dungeon might cause that outcome to differ.

On the Beta Cuck path she'll go for it, on the Alpha Cuck path it might be an option for either that or a different alternative to it, as for if their is anything akin to a 'Vanilla' path like I theorized could happen post dungeon it will likely require that alternative instead. At this point I have come up pretty much with the assumption that at the end of the dungeon we'll decide one of those three paths on both the NTR or NTS path for the dungeon, leading to having some flavor for each of those post dungeon paths depending on what path you took in the dungeon. Likely culminating with whatever decisions you take post dungeons to the flavor for each paths at the final endings.
Just because you cannot enjoy a NTR story doesn't mean others don't. This is a NTR game and the story is very highly rated. I personally enjoy it alot. A NTR route without a NTR ending makes no sense. I hope the dev will not be swayed by loud vocal minorities.

Good thing there are polls on Patreon and we can clearly see which route and genre are the most popular.
 

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I love that you guys are diving into discussions about the NTR/NTS paths and their endings. Your engagement means a lot.


Just want to reassure you: every single path will have multiple endings, not just one. Even within the same NTR branch, the finales can differ wildly.


I’m confident that both beta lovers and alpha fans will walk away satisfied—I’ve got plenty of ideas for each.
 

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Just because you cannot enjoy a NTR story doesn't mean others don't. This is a NTR game and the story is very highly rated. I personally enjoy it alot. A NTR route without a NTR ending makes no sense. I hope the dev will not be swayed by loud vocal minorities.

Good thing there are polls on Patreon and we can clearly see which route and genre are the most popular.
NTR fanatics are the loud vocal minority, the thing they have advantage with is the Beta Cucks are fine with throwing a ton of money at any Devs that develop for their taste. But overall NTR is a niche genre enjoyed by a minority of people on this site. Contrary to the beliefs of many of said fanatics, which seem to have that delusion of being a majority, where did society at large ever give any of you the notion that getting cheating on and losing your partner was a highly sought after experience? Its not, its a couple % of people that might enjoy that sort of thing. This site isn't a website that was created to cater exclusively to a kink, but to pirate adult games in general, and that mean the ratio of people here reflect actual society, so a small minority of NTR enjoyers, and again the only reason for the large flow of NTR games is the large flow of money that goes to devs to pay for them, not actual popularity.

Also like I said my point is perfectly justified, it wouldn't make sense for any of the final endings to be NTR since it would be counterproductive to the entire narrative. As I said for some 'what if' bad endings along the way NTR would work, but it wouldn't fit any of the real endings to the game. The fact you are too obsessed by your kink to be able to acknowledge any narrative that doesn't go along with it is your problem. Also this game isn't purely NTR, the fact their is a NTS path to begin with shows this, the fact that the narrative is tailored if anything like I mentioned many times with the whole Elven Cook and his slut wife point toward NTS supports it too. NTR is what is going to inevitably happen in the dungeon, but once back out it wouldn't make sense to keep happening from a narrative perspective.

Or did you fail to notice the whole thing is purely supported by some magical effect within the dungeon, and once they'll be back out of said dungeon it will stop affecting Mia and the MC is going to be able to fuck her again, so the notion she'll leave him afterward for anything else than a early 'bad ending' doesn't make any narrative sense, if the Dev actually intend for the story to keep up with its own current existent narrative, as I stated she is a pariah amongst people, and the MC love & care for her, how would she find anyone else able to actually compete once back out of the dungeon's influence? Its impossible.

At worst she might be fucking around while the MC will effectively be a Beta Cuck that let it happen, but guess what, that is NTS not NTR, and like I previously said its also an outcome already advertised if anything by the narrative, so yea their is no scenario where it could end with NTR, which mean the MC losing Mia, that wouldn't completely sacrifice the narratives and characters just to cater to your kink.

Like I said at most Mia might trade the info on witches for sex with the Merc Leader, but its not like he could hold that information over her indefinitely, it would be for a limited period of time after which she would be unwilling to have him keep delaying her, after that is done she wouldn't have any reasons to not return to the MC, so its not like he'd actually lose her to him, she has shown zero incline toward any other characters outside of the MC outside of the dungeon, so the notion once back out she'll will find anyone suddenly of interest to her would be ridiculous, why would she want to leave the MC for any people that were disdainful or hateful toward her? It would be completely stupid.

And before you start screaming about corruption, again go back to my earlier point that this is all magically induced, once that effect is gone their is no reason for her to really be remain fully corrupted like that, which is the major difference with most NTR stories with an NTR ending where the girl get actually corrupted, not just drugged up temporarily and expected to abandon her boyfriend over it.
 
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I love that you guys are diving into discussions about the NTR/NTS paths and their endings. Your engagement means a lot.


Just want to reassure you: every single path will have multiple endings, not just one. Even within the same NTR branch, the finales can differ wildly.


I’m confident that both beta lovers and alpha fans will walk away satisfied—I’ve got plenty of ideas for each.
That's great, man! It's fun to know there will be many different endings in each route. With Kold, you're sure to have one, right?
And I also wanted to ask if we can have that specific lizard as Mia's lover throughout the entire dungeon run, and even outside the dungeon if possible.
 

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NTR fanatics are the loud vocal minority, the thing they have advantage with is the Beta Cucks are fine with throwing a ton of money at any Devs that develop for their taste. But overall NTR is a niche genre enjoyed by a minority of people on this site. Contrary to the beliefs of many of said fanatics, which seem to have that delusion of being a majority, where did society at large ever give any of you the notion that getting cheating on and losing your partner was a highly sought after experience? Its not, its a couple % of people that might enjoy that sort of thing. This site isn't a website that was created to cater exclusively to a kink, but to pirate adult games in general, and that mean the ratio of people here reflect actual society, so a small minority of NTR enjoyers, and again the only reason for the large flow of NTR games is the large flow of money that goes to devs to pay for them, not actual popularity.

Also like I said my point is perfectly justified, it wouldn't make sense for any of the final endings to be NTR since it would be counterproductive to the entire narrative. As I said for some 'what if' bad endings along the way NTR would work, but it wouldn't fit any of the real endings to the game. The fact you are too obsessed by your kink to be able to acknowledge any narrative that doesn't go along with it is your problem. Also this game isn't purely NTR, the fact their is a NTS path to begin with shows this, the fact that the narrative is tailored if anything like I mentioned many times with the whole Elven Cook and his slut wife point toward NTS supports it too. NTR is what is going to inevitably happen in the dungeon, but once back out it wouldn't make sense to keep happening from a narrative perspective.

Or did you fail to notice the whole thing is purely supported by some magical effect within the dungeon, and once they'll be back out of said dungeon it will stop affecting Mia and the MC is going to be able to fuck her again, so the notion she'll leave him afterward for anything else than a early 'bad ending' doesn't make any narrative sense, if the Dev actually intend for the story to keep up with its own current existent narrative, as I stated she is a pariah amongst people, and the MC love & care for her, how would she find anyone else able to actually compete once back out of the dungeon's influence? Its impossible.

At worst she might be fucking around while the MC will effectively be a Beta Cuck that let it happen, but guess what, that is NTS not NTR, and like I previously said its also an outcome already advertised if anything by the narrative, so yea their is no scenario where it could end with NTR, which mean the MC losing Mia, that wouldn't completely sacrifice the narratives and characters just to cater to your kink.

Like I said at most Mia might trade the info on witches for sex with the Merc Leader, but its not like he could hold that information over her indefinitely, it would be for a limited period of time after which she would be unwilling to have him keep delaying her, after that is done she wouldn't have any reasons to not return to the MC, so its not like he'd actually lose her to him, she has shown zero incline toward any other characters outside of the MC outside of the dungeon, so the notion once back out she'll will find anyone suddenly of interest to her would be ridiculous, why would she want to leave the MC for any people that were disdainful or hateful toward her? It would be completely stupid.

And before you start screaming about corruption, again go back to my earlier point that this is all magically induced, once that effect is gone their is no reason for her to really be remain fully corrupted like that, which is the major difference with most NTR stories with an NTR ending where the girl get actually corrupted, not just drugged up temporarily and expected to abandon her boyfriend over it.
Sorry not reading the verbal diarrhea. I presumed you never pledge for a NTR game before? If you look at Patreon polls, none of what I think you said, is true. That will be all. You can keep coping and yapping.
 

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Wow, the 12 new images for the next version are juicy! Great adventures are coming for Mia with the hairy guy.
Seems like the story now is focusing on outside of the succubus maze. I'm excited to know how the witch hunters will take advantage of her and if we will see the crystal get inserted into her just like the vision that was shown.
 
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Seems like the story now is focusing on outside of the succubus maze. I'm excited to know how the witch hunters will take advantage of her and if we will see the crystal get inserted into her just like the vision.
Yes, it seems that way. I'm also eager to see how they're going to take advantage of her. Mia knows very well how to defend herself, but I hope she starts to enjoy the lewdness of the guys around her. Gordok could very well help show her what she's missing. I would love to see the crystal being inserted into her butt. :LOL:

Finally, it seems we'll have many surprises in store for these last two months. But I hope they go back to the dungeon soon.
And since December will be the last month to update the NTR Branch... I have a feeling we're going to see Mia's first sex scene. But I'm not in a hurry, I'm loving its slow corruption.
 

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Visually the game is just incredible, very high quality. It's also cool that the developer is trying to create a coherent story, not just pretty pictures. Also, there were talks about further variability in the character of MC(stug/cuck), which sounds great, but I don't see the potential for this. It's not like MC has a tiny banana, but everyone else is literally packing weapons of mass destruction. So stug route would not work, I think, if MC can't put up a worthy competition.
 
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