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Dessolos

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Gee I don't know, maybe it's because quotes like this are scattered throughout the story and don't really make sense if Sue is MC's biological mother:

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The specific backstory I posted about the Dad was (hopefully) clearly a joke. I just feel like it's being foreshadowed that he died from something she's embarrassed about that's related to their kinks.

I didn't feel like I was coping with anything in my post, just highlighting my take on their relationship for someone else. It sure seems very important to you that Sue is the bio-mom, though, so don't let me rain on your parade.
I don't see that as her being not his bio mom either. It could easily just mean she sees him only as a son meaning the relationship isn't going past a mother and son relationship to a incest / romantic / sexual relationship yet. It's kind of open to interpretation imo.
 

Laughing Jack

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Gee I don't know, maybe it's because quotes like this are scattered throughout the story and don't really make sense if Sue is MC's biological mother:

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The specific backstory I posted about the Dad was (hopefully) clearly a joke. I just feel like it's being foreshadowed that he died from something she's embarrassed about that's related to their kinks.

I didn't feel like I was coping with anything in my post, just highlighting my take on their relationship for someone else. It sure seems very important to you that Sue is the bio-mom, though, so don't let me rain on your parade.
It wasn't for nothing that I mentioned that this game needs an incest mod, or that the option to choose a relationship be removed since it doesn't serve much purpose.
To tell the truth, many dialogues seem to make no sense to either side, incest or not incest.
 

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Gee I don't know, maybe it's because quotes like this are scattered throughout the story and don't really make sense if Sue is MC's biological mother:

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The specific backstory I posted about the Dad was (hopefully) clearly a joke. I just feel like it's being foreshadowed that he died from something she's embarrassed about that's related to their kinks.

I didn't feel like I was coping with anything in my post, just highlighting my take on their relationship for someone else. It sure seems very important to you that Sue is the bio-mom, though, so don't let me rain on your parade.
I feel like this was put there to make it sense if you run say default censored relationships, otherwise it would happen more than once. As for it being important to me, it is not, i just think it makes more sense to me if it is. For all we know, we may both be wrong
 
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I feel like this was put there to make it sense if you run say default censored relationships, otherwise it would happen more than once. As for it being important to me, it is not, i just think it makes more sense to me if it is. For all we know, we may both be wrong
According to the Portuguese translation, the context of this speech is that MC doesn't want Sue to see him as a son (it makes sense, since he wants to have sex with her, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's not her biological son) and for that he thinks it's necessary for her to go out with other guys and free her sexuality.
 
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After launching on Steam, the game's story received significant changes, with many choices removed. So, I wanted to ask: Are there any branches within the three main storylines now? To be more specific, for example:
  • In the companion-exclusive storyline, are there still major branching paths?
  • Even potentially, could there possibly be multiple endings planned for this specific storyline in the future?
Thank you!
 

TritonRM

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Thank everyone for the replies. Given me a lot to think about. I'll try playing with the relationship titles in later plays. I'm probably just getting hung up on timelines, because it's pretty vague in-game. So Max looks 55 to 65 in-game. Max and MC's father knew Sue for a while. (Never stated how long) She looks 25 to 28 at best. I know they said she went to college. MC looks 20 to 23. There no mention of at what age she met the Father/Max. How long were they together? How long since he passed (unless I missed it) I still can't recall the game even mentioning how long this memory thing has been going on for, either. Because I do recall a scene of her stating she slept with a professor/teacher like right after she graduated. 4 years, assuming she started at 18 would put her at 22 for graduation. SO yeah she could be in her 30's... I don't know it will probably make more sense after more runs on each route.
 

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Thank everyone for the replies. Given me a lot to think about. I'll try playing with the relationship titles in later plays. I'm probably just getting hung up on timelines, because it's pretty vague in-game. So Max looks 55 to 65 in-game. Max and MC's father knew Sue for a while. (Never stated how long) She looks 25 to 28 at best. I know they said she went to college. MC looks 20 to 23. There no mention of at what age she met the Father/Max. How long were they together? How long since he passed (unless I missed it) I still can't recall the game even mentioning how long this memory thing has been going on for, either. Because I do recall a scene of her stating she slept with a professor/teacher like right after she graduated. 4 years, assuming she started at 18 would put her at 22 for graduation. SO yeah she could be in her 30's... I don't know it will probably make more sense after more runs on each route.
I think you might be straying into over analyzing a adult game territory.

The looks of the characters are not going to fully match with the ages they state in the game as they are usually assets from a store you purchase them from, not ones that are fully customized to the game. If the developer wants a specific look aka "The Bimbo" they are going to look for a model that fits their taste over one that fits a specific age.

I know a lot of people who do not look like their age at all, some in their late 40's that look like they are late 20's early 30's. And also some that are Early 30's that look like they are in their 40's. Life and how you treat yourself have a big effect on your looks, genetics as well. There are so many actors in their 60's that do not look remotely like that.

The writer of the story may also not be putting too much though into the timelines of the ages of the characters if they feel it's not important enough to fully map out.



It's fun to analyze stories when you are interested in them but their is a line when you have to step back and understand this is all made up and a certain amount of suspension of disbelief has to be applied.
 
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The NTR NTS route ending is one of the best I've ever seen in any game, but also once you kick Max out I was surprised to see the "landlady" ultimately sleeping with her "tenant". I assumed the NTR would keep going once you chose the NTR option at the beginning of the game, but apparently not
 
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The NTR route ending is one of the best I've ever seen in any game, but also once you kick Max out I was surprised to see the "landlady" ultimately sleeping with her "tenant". I assumed the NTR would keep going once you chose the NTR option at the beginning of the game, but apparently not
The game does label that path as NTS not NTR.
 

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I think you might be straying into over analyzing a adult game territory.

The looks of the characters are not going to fully match with the ages they state in the game as they are usually assets from a store you purchase them from, not ones that are fully customized to the game. If the developer wants a specific look aka "The Bimbo" they are going to look for a model that fits their taste over one that fits a specific age.

I know a lot of people who do not look like their age at all, some in their late 40's that look like they are late 20's early 30's. And also some that are Early 30's that look like they are in their 40's. Life and how you treat yourself have a big effect on your looks, genetics as well. There are so many actors in their 60's that do not look remotely like that.

The writer of the story may also not be putting too much though into the timelines of the ages of the characters if they feel it's not important enough to fully map out.



It's fun to analyze stories when you are interested in them but their is a line when you have to step back and understand this is all made up and a certain amount of suspension of disbelief has to be applied.
Well, as a Daz artist I can tell you the assets is the least of the problems. Sure, we are kinda limited to what's available in the store but there is a lot available and a lot of customization you can do. Believe me, getting a look for a specific age range is no problem. So, also as someone making up stories and lore for adult games and content (and being kinda anal with it), I'd say it's simply a mix of style choice while trying to keep things "legal" which is particularly tricky when going for incest and you aren't fond of "wrinkles and gravity". In this case I'd also say it helps Sue is on the skinnier side, so, you know, you don't expect as much "gravity" issues.
 
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jmcronshaw

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Wrapped in spoiler tag but can someone really familiar with the story help me out on this.
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It's very simple Sue is suppose to be Randall's mother, adoptive, step or actual, or caretaker if you really have a problem with incest. But she needs to have been the one to have raised Randall.
It's really the only way the narrative in general and Sue's reluctance to mess around with him makes sense.
She is likely suppose to be 18 years or so older than him, so between like 36-40.
If she's not his biological mom then those ages can skew younger
Randall is around a freshman in College so like 18-19 and again if not biologically related he could be a bit older
the time-line is something like this:
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It's very simple Sue is suppose to be Randall's mother, adoptive, step or actual, or caretaker if you really have a problem with incest. But she needs to have been the one to have raised Randall.
It's really the only way the narrative in general and Sue's reluctance to mess around with him makes sense.
She is likely suppose to be 18 years or so older than him, so between like 36-40.
If she's not his biological mom then those ages can skew younger
Randall is around a freshman in College so like 18-19 and again if not biologically related he could be a bit older
the time-line is something like this:
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Thank you. Yeah, it's just me getting hung up on visual appearance in-game and ages (or lack of mentioned ages lol). Lucia is probably more interesting to me than Sue. There a bit of not hatred but anger at Sue, probably because of your #1. Looking forward to the future of the story though.
 
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